So now we are into women's sports?

[00:00:00] Speaker A: The views and opinions expressed by the no nonsense show and its host do not necessarily reflect views consistent with political correctness or the rare sonics podcast network. So to get the show started right, we want to wish any officers of the sensitivity police a heartfelt fuck you. I couldn't hear you, Jamie Mac. Oh, my God. [00:00:17] Speaker B: My nigga. [00:00:18] Speaker A: So terrible. [00:00:19] Speaker B: Come on, you know it. You know, intro. When I say intro, bro, this is your intro. [00:00:24] Speaker A: What? What are you saying? [00:00:25] Speaker B: What? [00:00:25] Speaker A: What are you talking about? You could just sit in the mic back and I would have got rid of it. Cause. So that's what you got, French. I couldn't hear you. Cause before we started, I thought. Because you just told him what you just told him. I thought he was about to come with that fire, and then you just couldn't. You couldn't improvise, huh? I thought he was covered that fire. [00:00:46] Speaker B: No. Hey, I mean, I got some news. You know, I think I put it in a room, but. [00:00:52] Speaker A: Shit. [00:00:52] Speaker B: I'm about to do open mic. [00:00:54] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:00:55] Speaker B: So. [00:00:55] Speaker A: But he doesn't want us to come as a rapper. [00:00:57] Speaker B: No, not as a rapper. [00:00:59] Speaker A: Comedian. [00:00:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:00] Speaker A: Okay. [00:01:00] Speaker B: I'm gonna do some comedy. [00:01:01] Speaker A: He doesn't want us to come for the first one. You don't want us to come to it? I've been to one before. [00:01:04] Speaker B: Yeah? [00:01:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:05] Speaker B: And I think, you know, again, it's. I'm that person. I think I mention things and people that I know, and I'm a little afraid of how they'll receive the shit that I say necessarily involving them, not to say you guys specifically. Right. [00:01:26] Speaker A: He's about to talk shit. I'm coming. I do a podcast with the snake. Say what? I do a podcast with these snakes. [00:01:33] Speaker B: But it's funny because I just think about it, right? Like, I don't think. [00:01:37] Speaker A: Did he knock that cub off? [00:01:39] Speaker B: He did. Where's your glass at, bro? That was right there. I thought he took it and walked away with it. [00:01:42] Speaker A: Now he bumped it by mistake. [00:01:45] Speaker B: I was just as I've been writing material, and I'm like, I had to be single to do this. [00:02:08] Speaker A: You are listening to the no nonsense show. [00:02:11] Speaker B: 10% less bullshit than any other podcast, guaranteed. I had to be single to do this. The way I feel like I'm gonna do it now. [00:02:20] Speaker A: Cause you gonna talk shit about me. What's that gotta do with us, though? Why we can't be part of it? I know why you gotta be single. You talking shit about light skinned people. [00:02:27] Speaker B: Nah. [00:02:27] Speaker A: Who lost their hair too early. I'm gonna go to Turkey eventually. [00:02:32] Speaker B: Listen, so I'm gonna get the audio, right? I'm gonna get the audio. Or maybe even just come. [00:02:37] Speaker A: Are you just nervous, bro? Just be honest. You just scared. You scared doing in front of us. I feel like we would be the ones supporting the most, possibly. [00:02:44] Speaker B: But again, I think that there's a. There's a. I don't know. It's not security. [00:02:53] Speaker A: You don't wanna disappoint us. There's freedom in not having to. Yeah, I see that. I can see how there's freedom in not having to impress. Well, not necessarily impress. It's kinda like I wanna be this character on stage, and I don't need someone who knows me and the other characters. [00:03:12] Speaker B: Yes, I think that's it. [00:03:13] Speaker A: I need the freedom to kind of. To visit this and figure it out. [00:03:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:18] Speaker A: Figure out who I'm gonna be on stage. And I don't wanna have the trappings of somebody who already knows me, holding me in, or looking at me like crazy, like, what are you doing? This isn't you. I don't want to. I don't want to. I want to have the freedom to not be held down by that, I think, so that I can be whoever it is that I want to become. [00:03:33] Speaker B: That's it. [00:03:34] Speaker A: And then six months later, when y'all see me, like, yo, that's weird. But, yo, I like it. Because you've had time to develop who it is. He's going to be black Roxanne. [00:03:45] Speaker B: Definitely not going to be black Roxanne player. Definitely not going to be black rock. [00:03:48] Speaker A: I didn't mean that kind of character. [00:03:50] Speaker B: Yeah, not that kind of character. You always jump out the window doing that at all. [00:03:54] Speaker A: I think it's just more along the lines of, you have to get to know who you are as a comedian, who your character is. Yeah. How many minutes? Five minutes. [00:04:01] Speaker B: Yeah, five minutes. [00:04:02] Speaker A: That's still gonna be a long five minutes. Have you ever watched the Kill Tony podcast? [00:04:06] Speaker B: No. [00:04:07] Speaker A: Oh, you should look it up, man. Kill. So what killed roasting each other, though? No, no, no. That's not what it's about. Kill Tony is the comedian Tony Hinchcliffe, and I think there's another guy, brian. I want to say red band. And basically, they have a show where they'll bring on guest comedians or guest celebrities that will sit on the stage with them. There's a band back there, and then they put. People come to the. To the club and put their name in the hat. They scramble the names up, and they call the name out of the hat, and then that person gets on stage for 1 minute. You have 1 minute to do your joke or your jokes, and then they basically give you an interview where they talk about you and shit for, like, maybe 510 minutes. [00:04:46] Speaker B: Okay. [00:04:46] Speaker A: And depending on how interesting you are, it might be longer or whatever, right? So. But the idea, though, is sound, because it's very difficult to pull off 1 minute of anything. Of course, you don't have time for setup or anything, but it forces you to write concise jokes. [00:04:59] Speaker B: Right. [00:05:00] Speaker A: And you get some of those butterflies out of your stomach while you're doing it. So I don't think you're gonna move to Austin or go to Austin to be part of it, but, you know, maybe go down there one time and try it. But the idea, though, is you have to get on and get in their thing quick. Don't they usually roast the celebrity that's sitting with them? Like, the last one I watched was with Tucker Carlson was the guy there, and the nigga was making fun of Tucker Carlson the whole time. Yeah, not necessarily. Usually the person, that's just probably the person who's telling jokes. The person telling jokes usually makes fun of the celebrity. No, the other way around. Usually they roast the person who told the minute. The minute. Cause they're usually bad. They're usually very, usually very bad. That guy was actually good. There's a black dude in there who's kind of nude, named Cam Patterson. He's pretty funny. There was a white dude with like, a red beard. William Montgomery was pretty funny. There's an asian guy. I didn't really think he was really that funny, but they like him a lot. There have been a couple that have been, like, really good, and everybody else is trash. But the concept is good because you only get a minute. What can you do with 60 seconds? It's longer than you think it is, but it's shorter than you think it is, too. You don't have time to set up a real joke. You don't, but you have more time than then just to go there and blah, blah, blah, blah. You got, you gotta have something to say. [00:06:14] Speaker B: 60 seconds is it seems like, you know when you're up there. Yeah. [00:06:18] Speaker A: So watch that. It's called kill Tony. [00:06:19] Speaker B: Okay? [00:06:20] Speaker A: Look that up soon. You said you've been writing, so, like, you got, you're gonna, you're gonna. [00:06:26] Speaker B: I have a format. Yeah. [00:06:27] Speaker A: I have memorized them. [00:06:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:29] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. [00:06:29] Speaker B: I have a format of things. I have my intro, like how you're. [00:06:34] Speaker A: Saying, like, you know, come on. So what's up with bitches? Am I right? Like, oh, man, this guy's single. I guess you gotta be single. [00:06:45] Speaker B: It's just, you know, again, I think having gone through the shit that I've gone through recently, I think, and plus, again, women be shopping and you don't have to worry. Like, I don't have to worry about disappointing. Well, no. You know, like, someone, you know, taking what I'm saying wrong. You know what I mean? Like, you know, all this, that and the other. Because I can relate necessarily. Maybe not my experience that I'm actually going through, but I can talk about it as if I'm going through it right. And then next thing you know, people are like, oh, that's what you're doing? You know? I mean, but have you. [00:07:18] Speaker A: Have you tested the jokes out to see if people will laugh, too? Like, that's what the open mics for, bro. I know, but, like, I know some people like to test it out with, like, other people, maybe not. Oh, you wanted to tell you the joke? Like. Like, no, like, you, like, uber ride. You just. I'm just saying, like, you. Do you. Have you tried it to see if people will laugh or you just assume people will laugh? No, that's what Mike's for, bro. [00:07:40] Speaker B: And that's what. That's what our show's for, too. So, yeah, I may have. I may use some of the things. [00:07:45] Speaker A: Okay. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm. [00:07:47] Speaker B: That I've. That I've mentioned on here and things of that. [00:07:50] Speaker A: So did we never got Jake smoove up on the stage, did we? [00:07:52] Speaker B: Not at all. [00:07:53] Speaker A: He came that night, though, didn't he? [00:07:54] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, he. [00:07:54] Speaker A: There. [00:07:55] Speaker B: He was there. Yeah, he just didn't get out there. Yeah, there was that. You know, he was the j coldo to my kendrick. [00:08:02] Speaker A: Like, no, he was way worse than that. You know what's so crazy about that? I think I told the story. This podcast, you know, Jake's move is a funny guy, right? If you're hanging out, right? Once he gets on the record button, when we're like, okay, so there was. There was a rap group I was working with back in 2003, maybe 2002, and they were rap. They were recording with me, and smooth would come over sometimes and be like, you know, tell jokes. They thought the nigga was funny, too, right? So there was a. There was a chance at the end of one of the songs. The song was called ready to ride, and they were basically talking about their cars and stuff throughout the song. And smooth's idea. Well, what they wanted Smoove to do was to come in and talk shit about the cars that other people had or whatever. Like kind of a funny skit at the end of the song. He had a minute and a half. That nigga got in front of the mic, and a beat was going. Everybody was looking at him, and he just had to like this. Like he was getting ready to double Dutch. He was, you know, like, the nigga was about to jump in and double Dutch, he was doing that, and he's like, dang, y'all, I just can't do it, man. Now that it's recording. Oh, man, I can't do it. Oh, I can't do it, man. He's kept doing that, and he never recorded it. And so I knew he wasn't gonna do the stand up. [00:09:10] Speaker B: I didn't, because, again, he was talking. He talks a really good game. [00:09:13] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:09:14] Speaker B: He talks a really good game. [00:09:16] Speaker A: All that. [00:09:17] Speaker B: I mean. I mean, even from the boxing match. [00:09:20] Speaker A: Yeah, but you know what that is, though, right? Have you. The guy in school who didn't really want to fight, so he talked a whole bunch of shit to throw you off. Like, all this niggas bout it. He's serious, and he really didn't want to fight. [00:09:30] Speaker B: Yeah, that smooth. [00:09:32] Speaker A: He's gonna talk a lot of shit to keep you off of him. [00:09:33] Speaker B: Right? Yeah, I get it, cuz. I remember, like, every competition or every challenge, I should say that we had put up the money, the pre talk was there, and it would get me hyped, because I'm like, we got. We bout to do this. Because, again, they get it. You can't talk like this and then not. Not show up. [00:09:53] Speaker A: So when is the stand up date? You can tell us. We're not gonna show up. [00:09:58] Speaker B: It's the 17th, so it'll happen. [00:10:00] Speaker A: It will. It will have happened a week before this show come out. Okay. Yeah. [00:10:04] Speaker B: So, yeah, it already have happened by the time this. [00:10:07] Speaker A: We won't get to talk to you about it till that next. Next. So you won't hear about it on this show. You've already done it by the time this show that's published. But we won't be able to talk about it till the next time. [00:10:16] Speaker B: Okay. [00:10:16] Speaker A: That's too bad. But, I mean, I guess we're doing the same thing tonight. Well, good luck with the show, by the way. [00:10:20] Speaker B: Appreciate it, man. I'm excited. [00:10:22] Speaker A: I guess we're kind of gonna do the same thing tonight, cuz. What I wanted to talk about, you know, I know you guys got topics too. But what I kind of wanted to talk about was the propaganda is on 100 right now with. [00:10:32] Speaker B: On what? [00:10:33] Speaker A: This women's basketball bullshit. You're. You really a hater? [00:10:35] Speaker B: No, no, I know. I don't. I don't know where you're going with. [00:10:39] Speaker A: Propaganda with Caitlin Clark or propaganda with women basketball. All of it. [00:10:43] Speaker B: No, because I'm busy again. [00:10:45] Speaker A: No, but don't probably say what I. [00:10:47] Speaker B: Okay, go ahead and finish, because this nigga. Go ahead, man. Cause this nigga is capping right now. [00:10:52] Speaker A: Who is one? [00:10:53] Speaker B: Cause you. [00:10:54] Speaker A: I'm capping 18 million, bro. [00:10:56] Speaker B: Now, fuck all of that. [00:10:56] Speaker A: How am I capping? [00:10:57] Speaker B: This nigga's hitting me up about this shit real time. Like, look, yo, what about this? [00:11:02] Speaker A: Like. [00:11:02] Speaker B: So this nigga's watching it or into it to the point where we're having conversation real time about this shit. [00:11:08] Speaker A: Yep. [00:11:09] Speaker B: So if it's not real, I don't know what that was, but this nigga was caught up, too. [00:11:14] Speaker A: Thank you. Thank you for bringing that up, because that's part of this. This is exactly what I mean, okay? Nobody gives a fuck about women's basketball. They never have, and they probably should have. Never. However, the propaganda machine is so real that they got niggas having real time conversations about NCAA women's basketball tournament games. Listen, this never been. This has never been. Last year was the first time you saw anything. It was a little handshake thing. And then from that point on, they've been pumping this shit up. They got advertisements. Now, there are people who are. At first take, they're talking about the shit, all the sports channels. All the sudden, they've decided to try to give this shit a go. And it's working. And that's what lets me know. The fact that you and I have had real time women's basketball tournament conversations is proof that the propaganda is strong. [00:12:05] Speaker B: It's not propaganda. [00:12:06] Speaker A: And if that's. And if that's what's possible, if they can make the world pay attention to women's basketball, then this. This propaganda shit is really for real. [00:12:16] Speaker B: How about. How about the substance of the fact that she dropped 18 in the first fucking ten minutes? Yeah, that. I mean, she's pulling up. She's doing something. [00:12:24] Speaker A: Who does she beat for that record? Dawn Staley. [00:12:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:27] Speaker A: No, no, no. [00:12:29] Speaker B: Right? [00:12:30] Speaker A: There was an. I came. Cheryl swoops. [00:12:31] Speaker B: Yes. [00:12:32] Speaker A: Okay, what was her number? And Maya Moore. Then she beat break a mile more record, too. Who cares? My point is, let's just say it. [00:12:38] Speaker B: Was 17, and Maya Moore's a beast. And she never took it. [00:12:41] Speaker A: She never a beast. Now, when have we heard Maya Moore in a regular real time tournament? So check this out. Conversation. Never. Cheryl Swoop's. Never. I think. I think so. [00:12:50] Speaker B: Is Cayton Clark the eminem of women's basketball? Is it because. No, listen. [00:12:54] Speaker A: What are we talking about? [00:12:55] Speaker B: No, because she's a white girl doing it the way she does it. Right? She does it. And I hate to say that. [00:13:02] Speaker A: I argue that. [00:13:02] Speaker B: I hate to say it. She does it with a nigga swag. Like she's. [00:13:08] Speaker A: She's the white female Stephen gurry. [00:13:09] Speaker B: Right? [00:13:10] Speaker A: In a sense. In a sense, I don't know. Any of those things have to be true necessarily for this point. Those things may be true, but I don't think any of those things have to be true. Her being in the point and your point was the propaganda machine, right? The propaganda machine does not care that it's Caitlin Clark as opposed to anybody else. It's just lucky that we have a white girl. We can so check this out. I think the propaganda machine decided to turn on women's basketball. That's what I'm saying. That's propaganda with anything. That's not against my argument. If there's a 19 year old kid that's so good at hockey, like every time he touches a puck, it's a fucking goal. We about to start watching hockey. Nah, we're not. That's what I'm saying. We're not. If there's a storyline in it, like you said, always. There have always been storylines. Not like this. Like you said. You said it. You said it yourself. You said it when LSU did the hand thing. That started the storyline. [00:13:58] Speaker B: Angel Reese, let's get right. [00:13:59] Speaker A: Yeah, Angel Reese. Screen. That didn't start the storyline. It gave them potential for this season to have something to go off of a narrative. That's all. No, but hold on. But it wasn't because of basketball. And that's why I need you to understand, it's never about basketball. Stand by, sir. It was. We watched basketball in the eighties because it was good. We watched basketball in the nineties because it was good. We watched basketball. [00:14:22] Speaker B: It was magic versus bird, magic versus bread. [00:14:24] Speaker A: They used it from the college days. You're not disagreeing with me? That's why I need you to hold on for a second, sir. The point I'm trying to make is that they decided to turn on this propaganda thing and they got people talking about. About women's tournament basketball real time. Like, Mack was trying to call me out for her all he did was just prove my point. The propaganda machine has been turned on for women's basketball. I'm not saying don't watch women's basketball. You call me a hater at the beginning. I'm saying pay attention to what's going on, because if this happened and real time niggas are talking about women's basketball, trust me, everything else that you've ever been, that you've ever been led to and thought you found on your own was propagandized to you as well. And you should be very careful, because if they can make. If they can make people believe in women's basketball, of all things, the slowest form of basketball, the worst talented people in basketball, if they can make us give a fuck about. Okay, you're making a face. So which girl is better than JJ Reddick? [00:15:21] Speaker B: Oh, wait. [00:15:22] Speaker A: No girls better. None. No girl ever has ever been better than JJ fucking Reddick. And JJ Reddick is not a top 100 player. [00:15:32] Speaker B: 500. [00:15:34] Speaker A: No girl has ever been more talented than him. Yeah, that's a fact. When it comes to basketball, if they were to play one on one or et cetera or whatever, he's beating them, all of them. [00:15:45] Speaker B: If you just put them on a squad, I don't care if the chicken. [00:15:48] Speaker A: I don't care if she got crossovers, it doesn't matter. So we're believing now, and we're going into the belief that this is important to us. Mack was upset last, the other week when I didn't turn the game on while we were recording because he wanted to watch the girls listen to that. He was upset with me. He found it on his phone and paid more attention to his phone during that whole taping because he just had to see it. It was so exciting to him. And I'm opining that this is all propaganda. And women's basketball still sucks as much as it did last year. Yeah. Caitlin Clark scored 18 points in the first quarter, beating Cheryl sweeper's record, which was probably something like 17, and nobody said shit about them. 17, but that was also super. [00:16:32] Speaker B: But this, I think, to me, it is, right? Box office, right? Like I want to. And she's been box office, nigga, listen. [00:16:40] Speaker A: Listen to how you sound. She's what? [00:16:42] Speaker B: Box office. [00:16:43] Speaker A: And you're telling me there was no woman before her? There was ever box. Not like her. [00:16:48] Speaker B: Not like her. [00:16:51] Speaker A: Okay. [00:16:51] Speaker B: But not shit like her. [00:16:53] Speaker A: Mac. Bullshit. [00:16:54] Speaker B: The way she plays. [00:16:55] Speaker A: Look in the mirror, my nigga. [00:16:58] Speaker B: I don't care about my moore guy. It was a walking bucket. The fact that this Candace Parker. Nigga, listen, then none of them are pulling up from the logo. None of them are pulling up for the logo. [00:17:09] Speaker A: That's one thing. And that's not even a good thing. That's when you hit it. That's what's destroyed basketball. So we're not gonna call out her accolades for being able hit a half. [00:17:18] Speaker B: Court shot, but it is consistently right. [00:17:20] Speaker A: She couldn't consistently hit in the finals either time. Shut up. [00:17:23] Speaker B: No, she did not realize. [00:17:26] Speaker A: This is not her. [00:17:26] Speaker B: She did it. [00:17:28] Speaker A: So I'm kind of confused because when you when for propaganda to work, especially when it comes to sporting events like female basketball, you need the narrative. And the storyline. It just so happened the last two years. We had it. If we don't have it next year, nigga. Cause all of them are good. Come on, man. You're more mature than this. But check this out. You know, those storylines are creative. That's not real. [00:17:50] Speaker B: He's not more mature. He hates j coldout. [00:17:52] Speaker A: Check this out. Yes. It's not like, quote unquote real, but you have something you could, like you said magic and bird in the eighties, from the time they were in Indiana and Michigan state, they took that narrative, brought it, and introduced it to the NBA, and that skyrocketed the lead. The league stock went up. Cause you had a narrative. You could sell French. What were our first reality shows? What were our first reality tv shows? Probably the news. No, no. [00:18:14] Speaker B: Lifestyles of the rich and famous. [00:18:16] Speaker A: No. Those long shows that are still happening right now. Like. No. Jerry Springer. No. Well, yeah, Jerry Springer maybe, but. But there was no storyline necessary. I was. I'm thinking about. That are still in today. Like American Idol. [00:18:33] Speaker B: Okay. [00:18:33] Speaker A: Okay. Do you know what made American Idol really sell? The people that couldn't sing. No, it wasn't the singing. It was the storyline to make you emotionally attempt attracted to certain ones. [00:18:44] Speaker B: It's the first two weeks when they. [00:18:45] Speaker A: Introduce you and they do the storyline, they make you want to cry. I had cancer and I came back from it. That's what I'm saying. No, but you're not saying something different. You're saying the wrong. You're saying it the wrong way, though. You're making it seem like they got you. Cause it's a good story. I'm saying. No, they got you because they made it made up a good story. And that's what I'm saying. Okay. I guess that's what I'm trying to say. They finally find talented girls. No, no, no. They didn't finally find talented. Talented girls have been, well, it's talented as far as girls can be talented. They found those girls were talented all these years. Caitlyn Clark is not the first motherfucker that can play basketball. But you didn't have the injuries doing that. Stop. But there was all that. You think they never dissed each other in the games? Come on, man. This is bullshit. It was always there. They've decided to turn it on and start talking about it and giving storylines. The storylines were there. I got you. They just hadn't. They weren't reporting the storylines. So is your question as to why they did it? No, no. [00:19:42] Speaker B: He's just saying, beware. [00:19:43] Speaker A: I'm telling. There was never a question. I'm with you with the be aware. I'm saying that you need to recognize how strong propaganda is, because if it's making people have real time basketball conversations about the women's tournament, which they never did before, I've learned propaganda was real the moment the whole trans movement happened. And we now have to say they them. Like, that's when I knew. Yeah, but you know what? You might be able. You might be able to. You might be able to throw a rock and hit, luckily hit some idea where that matters to somebody. Right? Nobody gave a shit about women's basketball, including women. And now. And now we got Jamie Mac mad cause he couldn't watch the game while. [00:20:22] Speaker B: We were taping their, like, viewership. [00:20:25] Speaker A: 18 million, 14 million for the boys. [00:20:27] Speaker B: Right. [00:20:28] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. Now you're the boys. They have no cool stories. No. Outside of Yukon. Stop it, nigga. You're still falling for this shit. I just got through giving you. I just gave you 20 minutes worth of explaining. No, but I'm saying that's why it works. The stories works. Yes, but the stories are not real stories. They're embellishing and making them. They're pushing them to the forefront. You think that there wasn't a juicy story in the men's basketball, but they couldn't do it this year because they wanted the women's basketball to outshine the men. Baylor, on his show the other day, is talking about the women's tournament. It's not real. This is fabricated. These chicks suck as much as they did last year and the years before that. The reason why the WNBA sucked and failed for all these years is because it sucks. They're not better than men at basketball. Nobody wants to watch the shit until they gave your ass a story. And they go, oh, I'm in. I want to see it now. I want to see the handshake in the face. I want to see what they going to talk about. The white girl. Okay. How they going to diss her now? People gonna react to this. Oh, Ice Cube gave her a shot at the big three. Oh, my God. There's, like, no, nigga. This is fake. They're still as untalented as they were last year and the year before that. I don't care that Caitlyn Clark can hit a logo shot. That's not important because she's still a girl. But if you. If you're in the business of female basketball. What business? It wasn't a business until one month ago. How many people watch the women's season? Very few. Caitlin clued. [00:22:03] Speaker B: I'm telling you, the rock star. [00:22:04] Speaker A: Like, she's. No, she's not a rock star. A rock star. Clark is the most boring looking person in her game. [00:22:14] Speaker B: Ain't boring looking. Yeah, she's been like that since the freshman, my nigga. [00:22:17] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:22:18] Speaker B: So, like, I've been a Caitlin car. [00:22:20] Speaker A: Somebody pre 18 USA do not. When she was coming off the bench. You better not say you've been a Caitlin Clark fan since the beginning. I will get up right now and lead the rest of this podcast, bro. [00:22:31] Speaker B: Since you're full of shit, freshman. [00:22:32] Speaker A: You never brought her name up on this show. Give me the episodes where you brought her name up, my nigga. And we've talked basketball many times. We've talked about women's sports many times. You've never brought this chick's name up. [00:22:43] Speaker B: I definitely have brought her name up. [00:22:44] Speaker A: You brought her name up when we talked about the Larry bird thing. [00:22:46] Speaker B: She gives buckets, bro. There's no one that can stop her. [00:22:49] Speaker A: You've talked about Kaylin Clark within the past year, about her being Larry Bird or whatever. And I laugh then, and I'm laughing now. You niggas are full of shit, and you don't even recognize your own full of shitness. [00:23:02] Speaker B: I listen to french every time. [00:23:03] Speaker A: Yeah, man, the stories are better. The stories aren't better. They just started writing stories now. And the reason why I actually. Are you mad? The reason why it happened, the propaganda machine got turned on, is because when COVID happened and they did that bubble. And the difference between the boys bubble versus the girls, bubbles and the girls snitched. [00:23:23] Speaker B: Are you talking about, like, the weight rooms and shit like that? Like that. [00:23:27] Speaker A: Ever since that. [00:23:28] Speaker B: But that's what started the movement they were stuck in. [00:23:31] Speaker A: That's what started the propaganda movement for college women basketball was that. [00:23:35] Speaker B: And that kind of goes back to what B is saying. Like, nobody gave a shit. Like, they didn't give a fuck about. They didn't care to give them weights like normal. [00:23:43] Speaker A: So this is a virtue signal, all of it. And that's what I'm trying to get you to understand. If you don't see this one, then you're never gonna see propaganda, and they're gonna keep getting you over and over and over. I'm just saying, hey, my niggas, pay attention to what's happening. You didn't give a fuck about basketball and women's basketball tournaments last year or the year before that. Now, all of a sudden, you're glued. There's something happening that you're not in control of, control your own destiny. That's what I'm trying to get you to understand. You're being taken for a fool, and you'll never recognize it as long as you keep saying, oh, no, the stories are good this year. No, nigga, the stories were the same stories. You don't think there was any story in men's basketball this year? But they didn't tell them. You know why? Cause they were trying to make it so the girls could outshine this year to prove a point. [00:24:27] Speaker B: I mean, the fucking UConn went back to back. [00:24:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:29] Speaker B: I mean. I mean, if that ain't a story. [00:24:31] Speaker A: Hurley, his name, last name, is a fucking storyline. [00:24:34] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, like, I'ma deal with a whole new team, too. It wasn't, like, the same squad. [00:24:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:40] Speaker B: So, I mean, did you guys even watch the final? [00:24:42] Speaker A: Men's finals? No. I watched it because I knew. [00:24:45] Speaker B: I knew, first off, I was on the road, but I listened to it, and I knew that, though, it was gonna end up that way, because all they had was fucking ZD and. And nothing else. And UConn is a whole fucking squad. Like, they're there. They got everybody from every angle. Like, they're just ballers everywhere. Right. And then you got one coming back. [00:25:05] Speaker A: This team is not going. [00:25:06] Speaker B: Yeah, no, this. [00:25:07] Speaker A: This. [00:25:07] Speaker B: Yeah, this team, they might go for three. [00:25:09] Speaker A: Here's the real problem, right. And this is what I want you also to pay a lot of attention to. Right. So I came in with the topic about this, and immediately, French got on me. [00:25:19] Speaker B: Called you a hater. [00:25:20] Speaker A: Yeah. You see what happened when I tried to show him how he's being fooled? He was willing to fight for their side. That's how propagandized you are. You don't even realize it, my nigga. You don't even realize. You're propaganda. I want the female sports to grow though. I want that. Why do you want the female sport? What? Before last year. When? Before this time. Right here. You say, I really want women's sports to grow. You've never said it, my nigga. [00:25:44] Speaker B: What women sport do you want to grow? [00:25:47] Speaker A: Soccer. I want female. Have you ever. [00:25:49] Speaker B: Time out. That's you already. You're too late, bro. [00:25:52] Speaker A: They tried that, it didn't work. The girls are better though, right? They're not. They're not. What the fuck? I'm talking about the US. They're not better. Let me ask you a question. The US women have accomplished. No, they have. In the sport, they would get washed by motherfucking Nicaragua, nigga. Nicaragua. The men's Nicaragua team would wash the girl. Obviously. A fucking Papa new Guinea team would. Obviously. A men's team will always wash. Every time. [00:26:18] Speaker B: Every time you say that they won more World cups in their respective sport. [00:26:23] Speaker A: Compared to the men. Have you ever been, did you ever play, did you play football in high school? Soccer? Football, bro. [00:26:29] Speaker B: Football. In America we call it football. [00:26:32] Speaker A: No, no, no. Did you ever, you ever played football? I played football, but not like in high school. I didn't. Wasn't like for real about it. Why? Okay, so have you ever been to the high school football game? Matches? They're not games, they're matches. So the girls play first, right? Football, yeah. In my high school, girls never play football. [00:26:50] Speaker B: He's talking about soccer. [00:26:52] Speaker A: You're talking about american football. Oh, that's why I asked. I said football. Yeah, the girls play first and then the guys play the same thing. Go for basketball. No, but I'm not talking about basketball, my nigga. I'm talking about football. Yeah. Nobody ever played football? Yes. For your school? [00:27:05] Speaker B: No. [00:27:06] Speaker A: Okay, but you've been to some matches? Yes. The girls play first, the boys play second for sure. Did you stay for both games? I came for the second game. Did you watch a little of the girls game? If I came early. Okay, so if the boy's speed is ten, what's the girl's speed? Just wondering. For soccer it's definitely slow. Four, three. Four or three? Yeah, compared to ten. Right now you're telling me that people give a fuck about a three or four game when they know a ten game is coming? Of course they don't. Of course they don't. You cannot fucking pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. Yeah, but I mentioned I judge. I have different expectations. Why? Cause they're girls. You sound like a fucking dickhead, right? Now you sound like a dickhead. No, I don't. I'm being honest, and you're pretending. I'm saying, with girls, I don't expect them to play like boys. What? Yeah. I don't. I'm not. [00:28:00] Speaker B: You don't expect them to be entertaining? You don't expect them to be good? [00:28:04] Speaker A: I don't expect them to be as physical or as fast. So then why the fuck are we talking about the women's NCAA basketball tournament? [00:28:10] Speaker B: Because Caitlyn Clark is that chick. [00:28:12] Speaker A: She is not. [00:28:14] Speaker B: Why do you think, ice true? Want to give her $5 million to play against dudes? [00:28:17] Speaker A: My nigga, the Cav community college men's team would fuck Caitlin Clark, and she's giving nothing. You crazy. Maybe a d two school, but she's. [00:28:28] Speaker B: Giving them niggas the business. She's given half of them niggas. Maybe not the start of the show. [00:28:35] Speaker A: When I was in college, she got a teammate, right? [00:28:39] Speaker B: With other dudes, I guarantee. [00:28:40] Speaker A: No, no, no. You give her other dudes, she don't get no other dudes. She got to get what she is. My nigga. Stay in your lane. No, that's the big three. [00:28:48] Speaker B: Like, she gonna play with dudes. [00:28:50] Speaker A: No, that's not what we're talking about. When I was in college, right, I lived at a dormitory that had a basketball court downstairs. Right? It was the culmination. As long as you went to college in Atlanta, you could live in this building. It was called Carter hall. [00:29:03] Speaker B: Okay? [00:29:03] Speaker A: And so all you had to show was your transcript and that you were enrolled in an Atlanta school and you could live in this building. It was an old Ramadan hotel that they reconditioned and made it into a dormitory. [00:29:13] Speaker B: Okay? Right. [00:29:13] Speaker A: And so downstairs, we had a full court basketball court. I'm telling you, all the d one niggas who went to Georgia State. Of course, Georgia State is not a great basketball school. As a matter of fact, Penny Hardaway came there and scored. Their team scored 151 to 51, I think was the end score. So they're d one, but they weren't great. But they were still d one. [00:29:31] Speaker B: Of course. [00:29:32] Speaker A: So they had d one prospects. They weren't the best d one prospects, but they were d one. Right? DeKalb Junior College. This nigga came and played one day with us. What? I'm talking about the firest amateur nigga I've ever met in my life. And don't forget, I played ball at run and shoot with all them. And one n before there was an and one, they were playing there, right? So there's some talented niggas there. This nigga was by far the most talented basketball player I've ever seen in my life. Who wasn't at a D. One school or an NBA player, right? And he went to DeKalb Junior College. And what's so crazy is all the niggas he brought with him that played on the team, too were all fire. They weren't as good as him, but they were all fire. And I'm telling you, and they just ran. They would destroy any team Caitlyn Clark could. She could pick her for. [00:30:15] Speaker B: No, I get it. [00:30:16] Speaker A: And they would destroy all of them. [00:30:18] Speaker B: I'm just saying. You're right. If you were just talking about a bunch of girls now, they can still. [00:30:23] Speaker A: Destroy Caitlyn Clark and her pick her top four. [00:30:26] Speaker B: But if she. But if you put her on, like, if you sub out one of those niggas and substitute her, she's gonna hang. She's gonna. [00:30:33] Speaker A: She's gonna give. [00:30:35] Speaker B: She's gonna give niggas the business, too. [00:30:36] Speaker A: But that's not what we're arguing. We're arguing whether or not people really give a shit about women's basketball. So I'm just saying she could. There's been propaganda made, and you guys have been hanged. [00:30:44] Speaker B: I'm just saying she could sub in for a nigga that you talk about is ballin'and, be. And do just what that nigga's doing to you. [00:30:51] Speaker A: Bullshit. So to answer your question, bullshit. She. No, hold on. No, the fuck she couldn't. [00:30:55] Speaker B: Yes, she could, nigga. [00:30:56] Speaker A: If I was checking her, she couldn't. You crazy as fuck. Nah. She could be on a team with four other niggas. They let us have some crazy, crazy picks. My nigga better not rolling that beyond his weight will fuck her up. Imagine if she takes a. [00:31:06] Speaker B: She tries to take a charge, my nigga. We're not talking about fucking. What are we talking about taking charge? [00:31:11] Speaker A: I'm taking her from the baseline. She's getting baseline coverage. She's slower than me and she's getting baseline. No, not maybe. [00:31:19] Speaker B: Maybe. [00:31:19] Speaker A: My nigga, I just got through telling you, the worst nigger from the worst junior college is faster than Caitlin Clark. [00:31:25] Speaker B: I'm just telling you, niggas that can. [00:31:27] Speaker A: Play bar at a high level or better than, period, all of them. Not some of them. All of them play ball at a high level. G league niggas with far more high school. [00:31:38] Speaker B: You know what? Now it's funny now, because I didn't want her to play fucking big three. [00:31:43] Speaker A: But now. [00:31:44] Speaker B: Now I don't want her to play big three because. Because those are fucking retired. [00:31:49] Speaker A: Check. [00:31:50] Speaker B: She'll get fucked like she's gonna get buckets. Cause you could. It's not one on one, right? We're not playing fucking one on one. I'm better at five on five. Niggas. Stop. Look, she's better at 552 nigga. [00:32:04] Speaker A: Yeah, but sometimes you gotta match up, man. Yeah, but with the big three you can't hide. That's the thing. If it was a five on five, maybe, but with the big three, you can ask you another question. What's she gonna do on defense? That's what I'm saying. Okay. [00:32:15] Speaker B: That's what happens. [00:32:17] Speaker A: Hey, look listeners, his whole face. That's what I'm saying. His face change. That's what I'm saying. She can't fuck with. I'm back in French. Reggie and Clayton Clark, all the way to the cup. I'm a man, it doesn't matter. [00:32:28] Speaker B: I listen. I played against the chick that played overseas and when he was came to. No, no, she got buckets like two times. Because again, I didn't want to defend her like a nigga. Right, well, that's the first two buckets it was on. Like. [00:32:44] Speaker A: Who's that big chick bank bam Bay? Brittany Grinder. When she said she could go to Marcus Cousins. No, it's a bigger chick. I saw her on Twitter with playing against some basketball nigga. But she's like a foot and a half taller than him. She's a big girl too. She's not little. She's not little. Miss Cambridge. Yes. Did you see that video of her playing? And she did that nigga, but he wasn't really checking her and he wasn't really. And he wasn't really trying to do her. I'm telling you straight up, I'm doing Caitlyn Clark. No, for sure. She's not gonna. And there's no defense for what I'm gonna do to her. Like, it's not. This isn't even a real conversation. Cause even if she's more skilled than you, like the jump shot, the crossovers, by guarding her alone, you can wear physicality. That's what I'm saying. You can wear her down, bro. You guys are falling for the propaganda. And it's okay because I'm here to save you and listeners out there, I. [00:33:31] Speaker B: Think you fell for it too. [00:33:32] Speaker A: I. No, no, I didn't. Cuz I'm. As I'm talking to you in our group chat. I mean, art in our topic room. I put that in there the same day. [00:33:39] Speaker B: Right. But. [00:33:39] Speaker A: So I knew what was going on, and I'm seeing it real time. We're talking about this real time? Like, yeah, we are. And this is some bullshit. Why are we talking about this real time? [00:33:47] Speaker B: But your text to me was like, so the refs are the reason why she got 18 in the first quarter? [00:33:52] Speaker A: Well, no, I was. I was responding to black Twitter. I was calling the Yukon game. Yeah. The one screen call, not. Yeah, where was it? Yukon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where the girl pushed off, but she absolutely fouled. It was absolutely foul. Absolutely fouled. But you don't call it at that time. Yeah. Why not? If that's the case, Golden State gotta give all their rings. Draymond did that for all the championships. So what you're saying. I remember from. Even, like, I told him back about this from middle school sports, right. The first thing the coach tell you is never let the refs don't be in a position where the refs can dictate. That's what paige said after. That's your problem. That girl definitely fouled. And at the most important time, she should have been called at that. Even if they didn't call any other offensive foul, movie screen, even if they didn't call any others, they should have called that one because that was the most important one. She's going to cheat to get that. No, bitch, don't cheat. [00:34:44] Speaker B: No, you gotta stay consistent. You gotta keep the same energy. [00:34:46] Speaker A: No. Consistent. [00:34:47] Speaker B: You gotta say yes. [00:34:48] Speaker A: Was it a foul, Mac, yes or no? Yes, but again, by no, no. Stand by. Was it a foul? [00:34:52] Speaker B: Yes. [00:34:52] Speaker A: French, was that a foul? Yes. Then it should have been called. [00:34:54] Speaker B: No, no. [00:34:55] Speaker A: Tell me when. Tell me the other one should have been called. [00:34:57] Speaker B: No. [00:34:58] Speaker A: Did she foul? Did she do something outside? [00:34:59] Speaker B: This is the same reason why niggas in Sacramento still cry to this day, because they fucking think that they got robbed. [00:35:06] Speaker A: I think they did get robbed. [00:35:07] Speaker B: No, no, but they didn't, though, right? The only thing that happened was there was. Yeah, there was no consistency in the. In the referee. They let him play in a legal defense for the fucking first five games. And then when it got crunch time, they were like, nigga, you guys can't do that no more. Now they're like, whoa, what the fuck is it? [00:35:23] Speaker A: Illegal defense, Mac? [00:35:24] Speaker B: Yes. [00:35:24] Speaker A: What are we talking about? [00:35:25] Speaker B: But then again, but they're like, you let us do this. [00:35:28] Speaker A: What does that mean? I let you break the law. [00:35:30] Speaker B: But now this time, that's what happens in the NBA. No, in the NBA, in the playoffs, shit gets rougher. No, they let, they don't call the same shit. [00:35:38] Speaker A: That's not rough. That's a, that's a cheat. You're cheating. She was cheating. [00:35:41] Speaker B: They don't, they don't call the same fouls in the playoffs that they do in the regular season. They make you play through it. [00:35:47] Speaker A: I would be willing to say that they watched her intentionally do that on purpose and they called it because of that. It was blatant and it was ridiculous and it was stupid. That's not the same thing as somebody making a mistake and doing offensive last second. [00:36:00] Speaker B: As a player, you can, you can deal with however the coach or refereeing is going as long as it's on both sides. [00:36:06] Speaker A: Sounds like some bullshit. [00:36:07] Speaker B: No. [00:36:08] Speaker A: Is it the rule or not? No, there's no rule about consistency. That's not in the rulebook. It has to be consistency, but the rest has to call the game. That's not a rule. [00:36:15] Speaker B: But if you're, but I'm telling you. [00:36:17] Speaker A: I got me worked up tonight. [00:36:18] Speaker B: I'm just telling you, as a rule is don't foul as a player. You're like, listen, if this is how you gonna call the game, fine, I'll adjust according fuck said. [00:36:27] Speaker A: That's the way it goes. [00:36:28] Speaker B: That's how it is. [00:36:30] Speaker A: Obviously not. [00:36:31] Speaker B: Because when not every ref calls the game the same. [00:36:33] Speaker A: So when they know, they don't. [00:36:34] Speaker B: I know. So when they come out and usually, and this is how they're calling this game. Yeah, and some, Nick is a crime. Be like, oh, that's a foul, but the ref ain't calling it. So you gotta adjust your game. If you adjust your game and then all of a sudden they adjust the way that they're fucking calling it game. [00:36:46] Speaker A: It goes back to what he just said, never let it be dependent on my coach. That in middle school, my nigga, you're still, you still arguing about some dumb shit. My coach told me in middle school, never let the ref be in control at the end of the game. Be in a position to where that's not a problem and you don't have to ever worry about it. [00:37:01] Speaker B: Coach Reggie so you, so you're saying you don't, you don't agree with that? If they're calling a game a certain way in the beginning of the game, who fucking could call that? The way the whole game. You don't agree with that? [00:37:14] Speaker A: I don't like it. I don't like it. But as a player or as a player in the game, you got to understand at the end of the rules of the rules. So if you do follow, you do foul, they can call it. They may not call for the first four quarter, the first 46 minutes of. [00:37:28] Speaker B: Water about it all. [00:37:31] Speaker A: I'm going to go back to real life. [00:37:32] Speaker B: It was like you said it was illegal default. [00:37:34] Speaker A: You sound ridiculous. [00:37:35] Speaker B: No, no, I'm. [00:37:36] Speaker A: Can I ask you hypothetical? Because again, can I ask you a hypothetical? [00:37:39] Speaker B: We won as the Lakers, but the. [00:37:41] Speaker A: Can I ask you a hypothetical? Yeah. Yeah. [00:37:42] Speaker B: But the reason why most Sacramento King fans gonna kill this point are fucking butthurt. [00:37:47] Speaker A: These are wasted words. Cause I'm about to kill this point. [00:37:49] Speaker B: Okay, let me hear it. [00:37:49] Speaker A: Okay. How often do you speed? All the time. But once you get caught, stand by. Stand, my friends. How often do you speed? [00:37:59] Speaker B: Not as much anymore, but how often would you say. How often would you say, so fuck you. [00:38:05] Speaker A: Okay? [00:38:06] Speaker B: Because I've already been through this in court. [00:38:08] Speaker A: Okay? [00:38:08] Speaker B: Like, I actually, I had a judge tell me this, like, literally. [00:38:12] Speaker A: So the point I'm trying to make is, yes, there are sometimes the cops. You drive by a cop and you're speeding, and they let you get away with it. Right. And it's understood. Oh, wow. Who. He let me get away. Sometimes they even pull you over and they still say, sir, where you headed to? Oh, man, I just didn't realize, you know, it's been a hard day. Okay, I'm just gonna give you a warning today, but slow it down, man. Keep our seats, our streets safe, right, and let you go. But then sometimes they pull you over and they give you that ticket. Have you ever told a cop, bro, they don't never stop me out here? I've been driving on. I've been breaking the speed limit for years. Nobody ever stopped me. All of a sudden today, you gonna pull me over and follow the rules. You've never said that. And that'd be fucking ridiculous to say. You understand that? There's sometimes they're gonna let you go. There's sometimes they're gonna give you a warning, and sometimes you're gonna get that tick and you have to eat it, and that's the way it goes. Don't give me that. I'm used to driving fast. [00:39:00] Speaker B: I understand that now. [00:39:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:02] Speaker B: Young Jamie Mac didn't understand. [00:39:04] Speaker A: Don't give a fuck we're talking about now. [00:39:05] Speaker B: I know, but I was. [00:39:06] Speaker A: You understand? [00:39:07] Speaker B: I was. I was in the middle of three cars in a fast lane. [00:39:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:10] Speaker B: And we were all doing the same speed. I'm in the middle. There's a car right in front of me, there's a car behind me. We're all doing it. Motherfucking highway patrol gets behind us, right? And he puts on his lights, and I'm thinking, oh, he got that nigga. [00:39:23] Speaker A: He got you. [00:39:23] Speaker B: And so the first nigga behind me pulls over, like, okay, he's about to do. And then he smoothed up right behind me, and I'm like, okay, well, then let me get out the way too. And then he followed me, right? And I'm like, what? What the fuck? So when I get to the side, right, and I'm literally not. I'm confused as to how this went down. I mean, I. [00:39:42] Speaker A: Were you speeded? [00:39:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:44] Speaker A: Why the fuck were you confused? [00:39:45] Speaker B: Because we were all speeding. And why did you. [00:39:47] Speaker A: Were you speeding? [00:39:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:48] Speaker A: So you're fucking up. [00:39:49] Speaker B: So this is because you went past the nigga to get to me? [00:39:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:53] Speaker B: And I asked him, I was like, bro, we were all doing the same flow. I used to think of that shit. Flow of traffic, right? And I was like, um, what. How do. How you get me? And there was a dude behind me doing the same speed and a dude in front of me doing the same speed, and you end up pulling me over. [00:40:09] Speaker A: Cause you're the person you put the gun on. [00:40:10] Speaker B: No, this nigga. No, this nigga said, I like the color of your car. [00:40:12] Speaker A: There you go. [00:40:13] Speaker B: And I. And that infuriated me. I was like, are you fucking. This has gotta be some Rodney King shit. This is some bullshit. Like, I can't believe that I'm gonna take this shit to court and I'm fighting this shit. [00:40:23] Speaker A: Why were you speeding? [00:40:24] Speaker B: Yeah, that's exactly what happened. That's exactly what she said. I went in there, like, with an argument. I was ready to fucking fight this shit. There's no way. You can't tell me. I wasn't profiled. There was cars all around me doing the same shit. And this nigga, she said, were you speeding? And then not only that, on the gun, usually they go a little bit lower, right? [00:40:46] Speaker A: They try to give you a break. [00:40:47] Speaker B: Right? Then what the actual gun was saying. If we read, if we go to the gun record and it come out higher than what the ticket was, you might end up paying more. [00:40:54] Speaker A: There we go. [00:40:54] Speaker B: I was like, no contest. [00:40:57] Speaker A: Let's go. [00:40:57] Speaker B: Let's just. Let's go. [00:40:59] Speaker A: What I need you to understand is this is no different. There are rules in basketball and people who say shit like that. What the fuck are you? You're not even. You just want to argue. Cause you're not really making a good point. You know the goddamn rules of basketball. There are certain things you cannot do. No matter what time in the game it happens, no matter whether they called it before or not. Right now, the most important play of this game is happening, and you're gonna commit a foul during this play? [00:41:21] Speaker B: I mean, you're an idiot. It happened with the Eagles and the Chiefs. And when we fucking. They call that holding on it. You know what I mean? It's like, you look at it, you're like, man, that shit happens all game, but it was holy. [00:41:32] Speaker A: And if you let the refs decide the game, it's your fault. Do better. Do better the rest of the fucking. What is it, 40 minutes? [00:41:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:39] Speaker A: So what about the other 38 minutes? Yep. [00:41:42] Speaker B: What were you doing? [00:41:43] Speaker A: What were you doing for those 38 minutes? You weren't worried about the ref calls then, now you worried about the call? No. And I'm sorry, french and sorry, Mac, that you guys have been propagandized. I'm hoping that when we listen. When you guys listen back to this. [00:41:53] Speaker B: I probably watch WNBA next year because of her. [00:41:56] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I'm. [00:41:57] Speaker B: But the thing is, what I think what's confusing. Don't shake your head. [00:42:01] Speaker A: What's confusing, Mack and I is we understand there was propaganda involved, but we also saying the only reason why this propaganda really worked is cause Caitlin Clark backed it up. Yeah, but do you realize that this is. This could have been done to you five years before? [00:42:16] Speaker B: Those other girls probably wouldn't backed it up. They tried. [00:42:19] Speaker A: They tried with Candace Parker and Pat summit. No, they didn't. They did. I remember, like, when I. When I think of Candace Parker, I think of Pat summit. No, they didn't. Every other commercial during the game is another women's sport commercial. They've packaged it. It's not the same. And they could have done this in any other year. It just so happened that this year there was a white girl that was doing really well. Can we talk about that part? The white girl aspect is very important. [00:42:47] Speaker B: That's what I said. She's doing the Eminem thing. She's dominating in a non white. I mean, I know there's a lot of white girls in college basketball. [00:42:57] Speaker A: They invented it. [00:42:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Typically, we like to believe that we are. You know, I mean, especially, like. Like juju do. You know, I mean, like, did way. [00:43:06] Speaker A: Better than Caitlin as a freshman. Than Caitlin did as a freshman. Caitlyn was nine a lead eight as a freshman. [00:43:13] Speaker B: Okay, so you're talking about team success. I'm talking about just individual accolades, like getting buckets and doing it. I don't know if Juju, when she's done, she's gonna be the all time fucking baller, bro. [00:43:22] Speaker A: It's easier to get a bucket. [00:43:23] Speaker B: The all time facts, the room shorter. No, no. Remain shorter. [00:43:30] Speaker A: No. [00:43:31] Speaker B: Right. The rim is the same size as the guys, but they don't lower it apart. [00:43:39] Speaker A: So that's what I'm saying. [00:43:40] Speaker B: If they did, I might even watch more, because if you got chicks coming through the whole, like, just macking on people like, yeah, and fucking Anthony Edwards and motherfuckers. [00:43:52] Speaker A: Like, so like I said, I'm with b. Because the propaganda, the reason why belay went into that meeting room was like, we gotta promote the women's basketball was after the COVID bubble. It did look bad for the sport. It just looked like they didn't give a fuck, which is proves beyond his point. [00:44:10] Speaker B: Did it? [00:44:11] Speaker A: Well, yeah, but you, as a business, you can't, you can't have that publicity. So they had to double down, and luckily, at the same time, Katelyn Clark was balling, so they could write a story if they, if they were trying. But none of the girls was balling like Caitlin. None of the girls was balling lacrosse. None of the girls was born like juju. [00:44:29] Speaker B: I'm a married at that propaganda package. [00:44:32] Speaker A: But luckily those girls was hooping. [00:44:34] Speaker B: This is it, right? So the propaganda, you can't ask for better fucking weight rooms or better this, if you ain't bringing that no fucking money like that to the, from your end of the sport, right? Yeah, that's the same thing. Like you talked about the fucking women's soccer team, right? The women's soccer team has been more popular than the men's soccer team. I don't know, successful, more popular. [00:44:59] Speaker A: Oh, they're more popular too. [00:45:00] Speaker B: More popular. [00:45:01] Speaker A: I don't know one player on the men's team. I knew a few on the women's team, right? You didn't know Donovan Dempsey. You don't know? [00:45:07] Speaker B: I watched soccer and they, but them niggas didn't do shit. So again, I don't know why you were watching them niggas, but anyways, I'm american now. [00:45:18] Speaker A: Off River. [00:45:19] Speaker B: I was american, nigga. [00:45:23] Speaker A: My passport says more than 80 nationality America. What would, what would Trump say? [00:45:32] Speaker B: Reggie shithole. [00:45:33] Speaker A: If I was an athlete, I would have to play for team. He'd be like, you guys got somebody named french Reggie on your show? Let's call him Shithole Reggie. [00:45:43] Speaker B: But, yeah, they, I don't know if. [00:45:45] Speaker A: They'Ll be able to keep it up because I don't know how many Karlie. [00:45:47] Speaker B: Clarks are gonna get. So again, next year in college, Juju, still, maybe I'll watch Juju. Cause again, I need. I need that box office, like, individual person that I feel like is a. Is a baller above anybody else. And Juju is that. [00:46:02] Speaker A: Who's white mamba? That was Brian Scalabrine, Kobe Bryant. They brought up on Kobe's funeral. Who's that chick who Kobe, like, co signed? [00:46:14] Speaker B: Oh, bird? Was it suburb? [00:46:17] Speaker A: Oh, was the chick that made that thing with Steph Curry that was shooting the threes with Steph Curry? [00:46:21] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. It might have been her because she. Where does she play college at? [00:46:25] Speaker A: I don't know, but she plays for liberty. Kobe vows for her, and she's not. She's not a storyline. We don't have a storyline for her. Exactly. [00:46:33] Speaker B: They almost beat Steph. [00:46:34] Speaker A: They didn't give you a storyline. Had they given you one? [00:46:36] Speaker B: And she shot from the men's three pointers. [00:46:38] Speaker A: Had they given you a storyline to follow? But she wasn't winning. Like Caitlyn. You got. Caitlin didn't win. She did not win. She didn't win ever. She's never won. This is what I'm saying. You niggas are probably. Caitlyn's team won, like, 33 games. Nobody cares about those games. She didn't win the game. That mattered. [00:46:56] Speaker B: Caitlin, though, again, you said it ruined the game, but she does play like Steph. You. She gets open a little bit from wherever she's pulling that thing. [00:47:05] Speaker A: I saw a lot of missed shots in the finals, man. [00:47:07] Speaker B: I saw a lot of make shots, too. [00:47:09] Speaker A: I saw a lot of miss shots. [00:47:10] Speaker B: Like, she started the game off 18. [00:47:12] Speaker A: And how many more she scored? [00:47:13] Speaker B: She's 30. She scored 30 or 20 something. She had 30 for the game. [00:47:17] Speaker A: Yeah, but a lot of miss shots when it mattered. Yeah. [00:47:21] Speaker B: Again, she can't. [00:47:22] Speaker A: She. [00:47:22] Speaker B: Her back was hurting from carrying in motherfuckers the whole time. [00:47:24] Speaker A: Sure. [00:47:25] Speaker B: Like, I mean, like, she. She has to be there. Everything. And that's the problem. Like, again. But again, I will watch her in the WNBA. I'm not really concerned about what's going to happen in college basketball, women's college basketball next year. Maybe juju. Yeah, maybe juju. But outside of the. You know, if Juju's team ain't playing nobody, I probably ain't gonna be watching. I'm not gonna tune in. [00:47:47] Speaker A: Right. This shit is done. It was never. It was never good because women aren't talented in sports, it's just not fun to watch. They're not as talented as men, is slower and is less talented, I think. [00:47:56] Speaker B: But that's the difference. [00:47:57] Speaker A: She made it physical. [00:47:58] Speaker B: She made it. [00:47:59] Speaker A: She didn't make it faster, bro. She made it look. [00:48:01] Speaker B: She didn't make it faster, but she made it look more like what we see when we watch Steph. Like the fact that she's coming off a fucking ball screen, and I jammy in that motherfucker. [00:48:14] Speaker A: And I think that's what Steph is. The reason why I like to say Steph changed the game is because, Stephen, everybody can see themselves and Steph, if they go to the gym and practice. [00:48:23] Speaker B: No, they can't. That's the problem. [00:48:24] Speaker A: I know, but that's the problem. [00:48:27] Speaker B: That's why it ruined the game. Because everybody can try that, right? [00:48:32] Speaker A: We couldn't try Vin scarred or Michael Jordan. Here's my problem. Even if we wanted to. And that's the problem. Even if we wanted to. The problem is that what we're talking about is, how can we water down the men's game to make the women's game more exciting? There will never be an Anthony Edwards dunk in the WNBA, ever. And if you can't bring. [00:48:51] Speaker B: No. [00:48:53] Speaker A: Even. And unless they can ever bring an Anthony Edwards dunk to the WNBA, nobody gives a fuck. I'm sorry. Y'all can say, oh, I'm gonna watch it. You're not gonna watch it if it gets boring, because you're gonna realize, wait a minute. There's no Anthony Edwards in this game. That's what we want to see. [00:49:09] Speaker B: But we still. [00:49:09] Speaker A: We don't care about passing. [00:49:11] Speaker B: What about steps? [00:49:12] Speaker A: Teamwork. [00:49:13] Speaker B: Steph doesn't dunk on nobody. Right? But he's. We still love to watch him. [00:49:17] Speaker A: Do we? [00:49:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:18] Speaker A: I didn't. I like to see him lose. [00:49:21] Speaker B: Come on, man. [00:49:22] Speaker A: I like to see him lose, bro. I don't like seeing him win. Cause it's. That's the thing. It's like, yo, you're not even gonna come to the defense. You're gonna do it from half court. And that's the game. That's what we're gonna do now. That's the game. A video game. Cause it's not a basketball game. Cause you're not even gonna come. You're not even gonna let defense get to you. You're just gonna fucking run around the perimeter. You're gonna run around the perimeter all night. And finally, when niggas get tired of chasing you, you're gonna throw up a shot with nobody guarding, but. [00:49:46] Speaker B: No, come on. No, no, no, no. You have to stop. I can't. [00:49:49] Speaker A: Why are you mad at Steph like that? Wrong word. [00:49:52] Speaker B: You're treating Steph like the females. Like, that's. Don't give me that look either. Steph is. [00:49:58] Speaker A: So you're saying that Steph's game is not more feminine than Anthony Edwards game? Feminine? Why do we have to say that word? Cause we know what this is about. It's about physicality. You're telling me that if we had to pick the more feminine game, we would pick Steph over Anthony Edwards? [00:50:14] Speaker B: I would tell you this. [00:50:15] Speaker A: I'm asking you a question. Who's got the more feminine game? [00:50:20] Speaker B: Steph, I would say. [00:50:21] Speaker A: Because he knows. [00:50:23] Speaker B: Because it's not as aggressive. [00:50:24] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:50:25] Speaker B: But I'm going to tell you right. [00:50:25] Speaker A: Now, what we want to see is a fucking killer. That's why we don't like LeBron. Cause we want a killer. We want somebody who's going to go in there and have nothing but ice in his veins. [00:50:34] Speaker B: He does. [00:50:34] Speaker A: Who? [00:50:35] Speaker B: Stephen? [00:50:36] Speaker A: No, like, again. [00:50:37] Speaker B: And the thing about it is shooting. [00:50:38] Speaker A: It from half court. [00:50:39] Speaker B: No, it's not even. It's not even. It's not even. [00:50:41] Speaker A: Yeah, that's a sniper, my nigga. Why want a nigga that's gonna get there with his knife and his bayonet and rip through some chest? He takes it to the hole sometimes. [00:50:53] Speaker B: He's a finisher. So this is the thing. You put Steph back in the day. Like, you put Steph now back in the day at the ginst, you know, at that fucking court at the built in Ramada, the transformed Ramada. [00:51:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:05] Speaker B: He's fucking autumn niggas up. [00:51:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:07] Speaker B: All the nigga from the cab, junior college, the d one nigga, Steph is putting all them niggas in the fucking cycle. [00:51:14] Speaker A: Those aren't NBA players. They were trying to be. But that dude I was talking about, I don't know. He's putting him in. [00:51:18] Speaker B: He's fucking that nigga up. [00:51:19] Speaker A: That nigga was great. [00:51:20] Speaker B: He's fucking that nigga. [00:51:22] Speaker A: This is what I'm saying. I'm not even on his dick. I'm just telling you that this nigga was different. [00:51:26] Speaker B: Even when Steph was at Davidson with all that big shit on, he was doing it. That nigga was still like, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:51:31] Speaker A: I'm not taking anything away from him. I'm just saying that that's not the game that we've. That's not the game we loved. We've been propagandized into liking that, too. And that's why the world is shooting half court shots and. And double three pointers now, right? But that's not the game we grew to love. In fact, we hated it at first. You niggas have switched coats on me, and now y'all think that's the way. [00:51:48] Speaker B: It'S supposed to be. [00:51:49] Speaker A: Carl Anthony Towns shooting threes. [00:51:51] Speaker B: This is the thing. [00:51:52] Speaker A: Fuck outta here. [00:51:52] Speaker B: This is a thing. [00:51:53] Speaker A: That's not the game. [00:51:54] Speaker B: Until he. Until he proved himself, like, at first. And I was like. When he first started doing it, I was like, yo, that's that shit. That again when I'm coming up, get you set, sat down on the bed. [00:52:03] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:52:03] Speaker B: You take that shot. [00:52:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:05] Speaker B: The coach is like, bring your ass over here. [00:52:06] Speaker A: Like, I don't. [00:52:07] Speaker B: We're not doing that, my nigga. [00:52:09] Speaker A: Basketball, she had a little follow through going. They sat her ass down like, yeah, it's just. You're not doing that. [00:52:14] Speaker B: You're not. We're not doing that, my nigga. [00:52:15] Speaker A: All I'm saying, though, I can watch girls do Steph Curry's game, and that's fine. But I can't see Anthony Edwards anywhere but in the NBA, right? And that's what I'm saying. [00:52:24] Speaker B: Unless you can. [00:52:25] Speaker A: Unless you got somebody on the court, they can do that. What are we talking about? I don't give a fuck about the WNBA tournament or who's gonna win the finals in NCAA. I don't care, cuz. It'll never be an Anthony Edwards dunk. And that's all I was saying. [00:52:39] Speaker B: What about Britney Grinder Duncan? Okay, just fucking around. [00:52:43] Speaker A: I'm just put transgenders in the WNBA. [00:52:46] Speaker B: Staley said, I don't want to see that either. I don't want to see niggas that, you know. [00:52:50] Speaker A: I kind of want to see that, bro. [00:52:51] Speaker B: I don't want. [00:52:52] Speaker A: I kind of want to see that, bro. Bro. I want it to be like. It's unequivocally. They're better. [00:52:59] Speaker B: So you wanna see the dude that used to be. [00:53:02] Speaker A: They can do it. Like, how they do it with overseas players, with Americans. Like, they only let two Americans play at the same time. They could do that. I want it to be five transgenders against a whole team of girls. And I wanna see them stump a mud hole in them girls asses. Because even if they got titties now, they still got a dick and a testosterone and the body mass and the bone structure, the bone density that goes. [00:53:23] Speaker B: With being a man that's like that transgender wrestler. Not fair, but I got like when you get to maybe in track, right? Because again, I think that I see, I've seen fast ass chicks, bro. [00:53:35] Speaker A: Yeah, but again, we're talking about fast ass chicks versus record. The record for the women's 40 yard dance compared. I mean, for the honey yard as compared to the record for the men's hundred. Come on. [00:53:44] Speaker B: What is it? What's. What is the women. Is it under ten yet? Is even in ten. [00:53:48] Speaker A: Go ahead, look it up. [00:53:49] Speaker B: Let me look. [00:53:50] Speaker A: Nobody knows Shakari did it, bro. I don't know. I think I record. Who cares? [00:53:55] Speaker B: What's the woman's world record for the hundred yard dash? What is the women's world record for the hundred yard dash? [00:54:05] Speaker A: You gotta say his Siri first. He pushed a button. You don't want people to know he's iPhone. [00:54:12] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I don't do that. Hey, Siri. Shit. Florence Griffith Joyner with a 1049. [00:54:17] Speaker A: Flo Joe. Ten. Okay, ten four. What's the men's? Is it like, it's nine something, right? [00:54:23] Speaker B: Usain bowl nine something. [00:54:25] Speaker A: Yeah, nine three. [00:54:26] Speaker B: But I remember when Ben. When Ben broke ten, though. So again, like, that was a thing. Like, niggas wasn't. Niggas wasn't always below ten. And that nigga was a stereo. [00:54:34] Speaker A: Women were eleven then. Like, stop it. As we evolved, they evolved, but. But we still gonna be now the bitch you want to talk, right? Yeah. Like, obviously, a fast track running. That's a girl is faster than me because I don't run track. I never trained. Blah, blah, blah. But if they going against another dude that's been training just like them, they gonna lose. Not necessarily weightlifting. No matter what sport there, I don't think there is a sport. [00:55:00] Speaker B: If you get a transgender nigga, he's a transgender because he's not fucking capable of surviving in the man world. [00:55:06] Speaker A: Yeah, but you defeat the run up on that nigga that was swimming, that transition into become the swimmer. He was like the 400 fastest swimming dude, but became number one the moment he became trans. For the girls, it was number 400. Shit. Serena Williams said it publicly. Yeah. The 300th dude in the ATP would wash me. The 300 nigga will wash. And that's probably because that 300 nigga did wash her. And when they were practicing. But hold on. She's probably. She's arguably the best female athlete ever. [00:55:37] Speaker B: I mean, she's. [00:55:38] Speaker A: She's. She's some top five athlete of all time. [00:55:42] Speaker B: She's as close to. She's as close to a man with a pussy as you could get. [00:55:47] Speaker A: Why are you saying that? [00:55:49] Speaker B: You just look at her muscle like. I mean, she's. She's built like a. Like. [00:55:53] Speaker A: Like a strong neck. I ain't gonna lie. You got a sausage link neck. Fuck around and kill Basa. Nah, but, uh, that's. That's all I'm saying, bro. It's like we've been propagandized. I want you guys to know that you guys have fallen victim to it. We had. Like you said, we had a real time conversation. I'm not saying hate women's sports. I'm not saying hate women's basketball. Watch this shit. But know that you're doing so because you were programmed to do it, not because you really wanted to or you really gave a fuck about women's sports, because you didn't and you don't, and you won't and no one else in the world does until this storyline shit happened. They started putting in all the commercials, and now they tell you all the sports shows, the commentators are talking about it all the time. They're making you want to watch it, and you are. Let me. Let me ask y'all something as black people, because I was watching this video. [00:56:37] Speaker B: As a black American. Or are you. [00:56:38] Speaker A: Are you hating again? Yeah. [00:56:39] Speaker B: Where. Where are you at? All black people don't ask us a. [00:56:43] Speaker A: Question as who we are. Tell us who you're asking the question as. As a black American, actually. [00:56:47] Speaker B: Okay. [00:56:47] Speaker A: Black American specifically. [00:56:49] Speaker B: You got your passport out? [00:56:50] Speaker A: Yeah. I was watching this video. It was like this dude on college campus was asking a bunch of minorities, Indians, Mexicans, if they would want to be another race. What race would they be? All the other minority groups said white for the sake of white privilege. Right? But when he went and asked the black people, all the black people said none. Just, I would rather be black. Right? And then I watched that video, and. [00:57:14] Speaker B: I was like, I feel like you're trying to bait me. [00:57:16] Speaker A: No, hold on. No, but, like, after watching that video, I'm like, hold up. Do minority groups outside of black people don't want to really dismantle racism? Do they just want to, like, slide through, like. Cause I feel like black people at their core want to say, fuck all of this. But I think in the asian. Fuck all. What? The whole racism structure that this country's built on. Okay. But I think an Asian, a Mexican, from. From what that video was trying to portray, they don't. It's not like they don't have a problem with racism. They just, like, don't want it to be for them because they always like, oh, I just want to be white that way. I could. So, so I'm wondering. So my question is, outside of black people, do you believe other minorities do want to dismantle racism? Can I speak about something else first that you said? So the reason why black people, like, fuck racism and all that, this hierarchy is because they're at the bottom. Nobody ever says, fuck pretty girls if you can get a pretty girl. You only say, fuck pretty girls if you have no shot. So I think that's why they said that. I think that's why black people. I think it's because they've gotten a shortened. We've. We've gotten the short end of the stick a lot of times. And so we're like, man, the problem is this racism shit. If we get over this, you know, fuck this whole. Where all these races, wouldn't we want to be the ones to be white? [00:58:30] Speaker B: Not fresh, bro. Ask MJ. Yes, he wanted to be white. Listen a lot. And he was not afraid to fucking change his skin tone to fucking prove it. Sammy Sosa, like fucking Beyonce now, like, let's be clear. Let's be clear. It's real. And I think what it is for us as blacks is that it's a pride thing, right? We want to fucking stand on who we are, right? Like, no, I would want to be nothing more than we would, you know, the black. We black magic. We, we kings and queens. We this and that, man, fuck that. And I think this is the thing, right? Like, yeah, fuck that. Like, these Mexicans, Asians, Indians, they understand the fucking game, right? And they're like, listen, I'm not Finna sit here and try to roll up, fucking stream all the fucking, you know, with one paddle and do all of this bullshit if I don't have to. Like, if you're giving me an option not to have to fight against the current and fucking have a privilege and all of that, who the fuck wouldn't want that? Who the fuck wouldn't take that, right? Like, it reminds me, I haven't dropped a movie reference in a minute. Oh, no, but it reminds me of that fucking movie, the human stainless, right? [00:59:41] Speaker A: Oh, no, nobody watched. That's a long ass title for. [00:59:44] Speaker B: It's fucking three words. [00:59:46] Speaker A: I'm just saying, it just sounds long. Nobody. Nobody's ever watched it. [00:59:49] Speaker B: It's four syllables. Fucking four syllables. [00:59:56] Speaker A: It doesn't sound like a cool movie that, but continue. [00:59:58] Speaker B: So it's a. It's about a guy, fucking. Anthony Hopkins plays a mixed race guy, basically, where he is born into a family. His family. All his family members are light skinned, but he's Anthony Hopkins. [01:00:14] Speaker A: Right? [01:00:14] Speaker B: You know who that is, right? [01:00:15] Speaker A: White. [01:00:16] Speaker B: You know who is he? [01:00:20] Speaker A: I can't think of the face, right? I can think of the face. [01:00:24] Speaker B: Fucking Hannibal Lecter. He's fucking. He's had a lecture, like, with the five of these, but the. He plays a black dude that's living his white privilege. I've seen this, actually, and I didn't think I was gonna dig it. [01:00:39] Speaker A: Like, yeah. [01:00:40] Speaker B: I'm like, I didn't. I was like, this is the way he's gonna be able to. But then it's obvious to have a white guy to. It's necessary, I guess, to have a white person play this role, right. He basically went to the military, right? Fucking was able to get accepted as a white person and live a white person's life with white privilege. And basically, you know, his family wasn't right. He. His family doesn't have that opportunity, and he took full advantage of it, and they were. There was a disconnect between him and his siblings and his family members because of it. Again, why in the fuck wouldn't you, if you could. That's like saying, like, if you could. I mean, you have the opportunity to not have to struggle. You're gonna say, no, give me the fucking struggle. Why? And I think that's what these Asians and all these other people are saying. Like, if you're telling me I don't have to do this, and you're telling. [01:01:37] Speaker A: Me that, okay, you're addicting. [01:01:39] Speaker B: This is the addicting. [01:01:41] Speaker A: The. [01:01:42] Speaker B: The game is already set up. You could try to say, I don't want to play the game. And that's what niggas do, right? I'm not gonna play the game. Well, they get a. Gays being played. You're got a mother. This is Jumanji nickel your fucking game pieces on the board. [01:01:55] Speaker A: So if you. If you could choose, you would rather be what? Yeah, why wouldn't you? Right? [01:02:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:01] Speaker A: Can I get you to relax your stance on something then? Okay, cuz, you're on record now. [01:02:04] Speaker B: All right. [01:02:04] Speaker A: It's easier to be white, right? [01:02:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:06] Speaker A: Less resistance. [01:02:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:08] Speaker A: Yeah. And you have a choice to do it, so why not? You know what you said? No, don't. Don't change what you say. [01:02:14] Speaker B: I just want to have you clarify, my nigga. What are you saying? [01:02:16] Speaker A: So you said, if I have a chance to have easier, I'm gonna take that. Who wouldn't? [01:02:20] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. [01:02:21] Speaker A: So can I get you to relax? Your stance on snitching. [01:02:25] Speaker B: No, no. [01:02:27] Speaker A: You just said, let's replace everything you said with snitching. [01:02:30] Speaker B: No, nigga, same fucking thing. [01:02:32] Speaker A: And witness protection, same thing, bro. I need to relax. I need to relax your stance on snitching, bro. I can snitch and get protected. This is the same conversation, my nigga. You're pretending like it's not, but it isn't, nigga. You gonna go and sit down forever? Whatever. You gonna sit down forever or you gonna go home? [01:02:48] Speaker B: I didn't have a choice. [01:02:49] Speaker A: You wanna go home or you wanna sit down forever? It's. [01:02:52] Speaker B: Who wouldn't think that? You made a choice. I didn't. Black people weren't. They didn't have a choice. Being like. It's like when they were given the opportunity at birth. [01:03:02] Speaker A: You're giving a choice. You're given a choice, right? You're Anthony Hopkins. You got a choice. [01:03:06] Speaker B: No, no, no, no, no. [01:03:06] Speaker A: He didn't have to, because he didn't have to go to the military until he was white and get a better life. He could have lived a normal ass black life like everybody else. [01:03:14] Speaker B: Listen, he didn't do the crime. Listen, stop. [01:03:16] Speaker A: He did. He's black. He's lying. He did do the crime. [01:03:19] Speaker B: His parents did the crime. No, because they're the ones that. She's the one that fucked another black dude. If she wanted a more white baby, she should have got another fucking white man. [01:03:26] Speaker A: Nah, bro. [01:03:26] Speaker B: You said, can I get you to. [01:03:28] Speaker A: Relax your stance on snitching, please? [01:03:29] Speaker B: Not really. [01:03:30] Speaker A: Okay. It's much easier to snitch and go on. You want to go home? You want to go to prison? [01:03:35] Speaker B: So again, I feel like the. The Indians and Mescans and all of the people we had interviewed, they're like, listen, so you. [01:03:42] Speaker A: But you, right now, you would rather be white? [01:03:44] Speaker B: If I. If I could. If I could. Listen, you're telling me if I can be any other race, you think I'm gonna pick anything other than white? [01:03:53] Speaker A: It's funny. [01:03:53] Speaker B: Why would I? [01:03:54] Speaker A: I still would choose black. [01:03:55] Speaker B: Okay. [01:03:56] Speaker A: And why give us your reasons? I think it's because I grew up. I'm fortunate to go up in a time where I can't use racism as an excuse. [01:04:03] Speaker B: What I feel like. Did he just say racism doesn't exist? [01:04:07] Speaker A: He did. [01:04:07] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. [01:04:09] Speaker A: I didn't say doesn't exist. I said I can't use it as. As an excuse. Why? Cause I've been giving too many examples. I don't think you grew up in a time. That's right. I literally said that. You said that. And I don't think you grew up in a time when you can't use racism an excuse. You could say that you've grown up under a certain privilege that doesn't allow you to use racism excuse. Okay, but this time is just as racist as any other time. I don't know what you mean. There was a time. There was a time like a black man wouldn't be able to sit next to a white man. What are you talking about? And now I just make it to where the seats cost too much. But then they can get that money sometimes. [01:04:41] Speaker B: And even if you do, that doesn't mean that that white man you're still sitting next to ain't racist just cause you got a seat nigga, in the front of the bus. [01:04:50] Speaker A: Racism is still around. But we can't sit here and act like it's just as. It's worse. I think it's more. I guess it's how we want to define it's worse because now it's not so blatant. It's hidden, and it's better systemic, to me. That's better. How is. I'm gonna remove the option for you even to get bitten by a dog, by not even letting you get onto the street where the dogs can bite you. [01:05:12] Speaker B: Come on. [01:05:13] Speaker A: You saying. [01:05:13] Speaker B: You're saying that hidden hate is. Is better than in your face, so. No. So have. Not even knowing what you're dealing with is better than actually having the. All of the information in front of you and being able to, you know, make decisions based on what you know to be true. Come on, man. I didn't make sense. [01:05:33] Speaker A: They just called. They just called all those. Those. Who is it? Navy federal. They call it Navy federal, denying, like, 68% of the loans from black people. And I just saw a study they did where they sent 80,000 resumes to, like, the top five companies or top ten companies, and they just changed names. They made. Well, they're fake resumes. They made them. Some of them look white, some look indian, some look black, whatever, just to try to get an idea of what people were getting callbacks for resumes. And majority of them, of course, had the majority white, but it was a slight majority. Whereas there were three or four of the top five companies that did 60 or 70%, they did not call black people back based off of how their name looked, where their neighborhood, where they grew up, whatever they put on their resume that had black details, 40% of those people got calls. 60% of the, of white people got calls. So you're telling me that it's not, there's no longer racism? What I'm telling you is that now, I never said there's no longer racism. Well, you said it's not. It's better now. Now you said better. [01:06:31] Speaker B: There's not, there's not an opportunity experience. [01:06:35] Speaker A: That I'm experiencing versus what people my dad's time was. It's a different. And I would, I would argue that I don't know that it's the black experience or the privilege experience that you had, because you don't come from a poor family now. They're, they know they're okay. You know, I'm saying they do what they had to do. They took care of business. And you were able to, to have nice things and to aspire to do great. [01:06:59] Speaker B: You had, you had slaves in fucking Haiti. [01:07:02] Speaker A: Yeah. You had servants. Yeah, but that's, that's a haitian thing. Don't want to hear it. I'm saying, like, even that maid had a maid, bro. You are, you are Thomas Jefferson. [01:07:10] Speaker B: So you, you were so rich, you were able to pay your fucking servants. [01:07:13] Speaker A: No. [01:07:14] Speaker B: Well enough to have servants. [01:07:15] Speaker A: That's the thing in our culture, like, having. [01:07:17] Speaker B: So what servant don't got a servant, nigga. [01:07:19] Speaker A: Everybody, not all servants, but somebody can't afford a service. [01:07:23] Speaker B: That is something nobody poll. [01:07:25] Speaker A: That is something in Haiti, you're gonna find. [01:07:27] Speaker B: You got to be able to afford that. [01:07:28] Speaker A: You're gonna find all cross of life people with maids. [01:07:32] Speaker B: You gotta be able to afford because. [01:07:33] Speaker A: We don't have all the job opportunities in there. So things like maid or things like that are a thing in our country. [01:07:39] Speaker B: They're a thing here, too, for only. [01:07:41] Speaker A: A certain class of people, rich ones. [01:07:43] Speaker B: So you saying that, you saying that people, that wealthy people are going to be in people, other people's servants, not. [01:07:49] Speaker A: The wealthy, but there's like, poor people. But there's a little people that even way poor, they can get those way poor people to be their mates. Yeah. [01:07:58] Speaker B: Everybody can get somebody underneath them. [01:08:00] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. [01:08:00] Speaker B: Shit, roll down. [01:08:04] Speaker A: Haiti is so poor that even when. [01:08:07] Speaker B: You super poor, if you put it in that, when I run to the Home Depot and I get the fucking essays to do my fucking construction or my yard work. Yeah, I'm that nigga, right, for a day. [01:08:18] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. [01:08:18] Speaker B: But, but I'm still, but it's still not, nigga, stop that. Stone. You're still. I can only do it for a day. You got full time. Like, I don't got full time. [01:08:28] Speaker A: I had full time to always have a maid. But what I'm trying to show you is, in our cult in Haiti, having a maid doesn't mean you're just rich. Sure. That's all I'm saying. [01:08:36] Speaker B: What about the. What about the marble floors and the palm trees in that picture that you had? [01:08:40] Speaker A: You lived well, no, I'm not talking about me. I can push back on that, because even in Mexico, they don't build houses like that. Yeah, and I'm not talking about me. I'm saying in the culture. [01:08:49] Speaker B: I thought we were talking about your rich ass and your privilege. In the culture in Haiti, you've been privileged in Sadie. [01:08:55] Speaker A: You find poor people. This is an argument against. Sir, my point was, is that I'm not sure that you're experiencing singularly the black experience, and. Not at all. I think that you're. You're having a combination of things, and one of those is the privilege that your parents have afforded you. Yeah. I'm not disagreeing with that. So. So when you say the. The black experience is fine for me, there are people who are looking at you like, nigga, what? [01:09:15] Speaker B: You sound very white. [01:09:16] Speaker A: Yeah, like, what do you mean, the black experience is fine? They're like, no, the black experience is not fine. What are you talking about? Where did you grow up? And then you got to start telling them, oh, well, I was, you know, Haiti, then Boston, and then, you know, Atlanta and Kennesaw, and, like, oh, okay, wait a minute. So you not like me, then? You're saying that black experience is fine, but that ain't my black fucking experience. My black experience is way different than that. [01:09:36] Speaker B: Food stamps, nigga. Cockroaches. [01:09:38] Speaker A: So that, I think, plays a bigger part. White people could have that, too. That, I think, plays a bigger part. Now, as far as being wanting to be another race. You said that you'd want to be black, and the reason why you were going to say is because the black experience has been fine. So could you continue from that? Cause that's where we were. Yeah. Yeah. For me, is because I think. Yeah. Like I said earlier, because my black experience been fine, but, too. That's all I really know. [01:10:04] Speaker B: You know, like, I. [01:10:05] Speaker A: Like. I don't. Outside of the white privileges. I'm not trying to be mean, but I don't know. That's the one thing I've never understood in America specifically. Like, what is white american culture? I know what italian culture is. I know why the German. I can. But what is the white Americans? It just barbecues, the 4 July. What is their culture? What is black culture? Everything in this country. Everything as far as. So music. So that's black. Is that. Are we gonna give white culture nut tap or just for sure. Immaturity culture. That's not just immaturity culture. [01:10:44] Speaker B: They do that shit all the way. [01:10:45] Speaker A: So what? [01:10:46] Speaker B: So what? [01:10:47] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. Like, I know that's what. That's why I, with the white Americans, I just. I was like, what is their culture? Is it italian culture? [01:10:54] Speaker B: Is it dragon? [01:10:55] Speaker A: Is it. Is it scottish culture? What is really a white american culture? [01:11:01] Speaker B: So again, I. If you're talking about, like, true american culture, right. I think you looking in the more rural areas, right? Like, I think those are the. The type of, you know, pickup truck. [01:11:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:11:19] Speaker B: Redneck ish. Right? [01:11:20] Speaker A: Like, okay, okay. You meet a redneck and you meet a black dude from the same areas. They're very similar. It's the same culture. It's just one's white, one's black. So then when you're saying, what's black culture? You have all these things you're about to name. I don't understand how you can do that then if you're saying they're red. So. So the reason. The reason why I was saying that is because I feel like a lot of american culture, what's considered american culture is really just black culture. So cheeseburgers, that's black people. Muscle cars, that's black people. Are we putting cheese? Yes. Cheeseburgers. Blue jeans are blue jeans. Is that. Is that black culture? Okay, I guess I can give you booze. My name. Burgers came from Germany. No cheeseburgers, my nigga. Nobody get credits fucking. I'm just saying Germany. Let's go. Let's go eat. Where you want to eat tonight. Let's eat some german food. What do you have in mind? Oh, McDonald's. Nobody says that, nigga. Nobody says that. Apple pie, cheeseburgers, pizza, french fries. That's all american shit, right? Yeah, american. So stop it. Blue jeans, zippo lighters. I mean, there's so much stuff that's, like, part of this. You're like, what is. What even is this? It's the fabric of everything that you are. There are so many underlying things that people look at you from other countries. Like, oh, that's american. They don't say it's black american. They say it's american. They say it's american, for sure. I'm with you. But I feel like majority of american culture stems from black culture. So I think, like, movies, the entertainment. No, no, no. Going to the movies, that's, that's black culture. I think that's just, that's white people shit. That's going to the movies is white people shit. Yes, you did. There was time when black people couldn't afford to go to a damn movie. Oh. So they made that pop, and it's not in any other country. It was here, and then it spread out. Like, there's so much that's already part of american culture that you're going to call black culture. Now. This, that was not, it was just, it was just America. [01:13:05] Speaker B: And I think what's happening now is it's the, the way hip hop has kind of melded itself into every aspect of. [01:13:11] Speaker A: That's one aspect. [01:13:12] Speaker B: But again, I think that's why you're saying it that way, because, again, I think that's why. Because you can see and look around and everything has, by the time I was born, right. Has a, has a more urban feel to it than it ever did before in, in our country. But the reality of it is fucking getting, I mean, it's not even nepotism, right? It's like, you know, getting a job over another nigga. That's american culture. Nigga, that's white american culture. Give me some of that skinny jeans. Yeah. Like, I. If I don't, if I don't give a fuck, if I may not be qualified as much as this other minority motherfucker, but I'm gonna. You want to pay me more? Fuck, yes. Sign me up for that. What the fuck, man? Like, I don't know, man. Listen, we can, we can stand on pride and all these other fucking moral fucking and statues that make you want to say that. I would rather be this than that. If you don't have to fucking fight a certain fight by just being this color, I'm okay with that. Like, I don't want to fight this fight. [01:14:18] Speaker A: So is French. If French go somewhere that feels a little dangerous, he's going to stick his chest out a little bit. He's going to be a little bigger. He's going to spread his arms a little bit more when he walks. He's going to try to make himself look bigger in that environment because he's adapting to it, and he wants to be considered a certain thing. He does the same thing when we talk about race. It's like, oh, I can't do that. It'd be a sellout. But you lie when you're in that environment. You probably don't even want to fight nobody, but, you know, you got to kind of have a different kind of swag when you walk in that place, because if you don't, you're going to look like a mark. Yeah, but what's that? What's that got to do? Adapting to environment, everything. Because you're lying. No, because you're using. You're using the tools of somebody who's not you to get a certain response. So what Mac is saying is, why would I want to work harder when this person has the ability to just do it? So if I act more like that, just have the opportunity to do that. There's no different than you walking in that room and changing your swag a little bit and being a little bit more, you know, trying to be a little bit. Look a little more intimidating. You're using that so that you don't get approached, you don't get fucked with. Right. Mike is saying the exact same thing, but he's just using race as. [01:15:21] Speaker B: Yeah. And for me, you know, I just. You talked about, you brought this up and you brought up all these other nationalities, and I think that they understand this part. Right. Like, they're, like, for who? For what? For why? Why would I, if I didn't have to put myself, subject myself to this? [01:15:40] Speaker A: So do you think, like, how Beonis said in the beginning of this topic, how. Because we at the bottom of the totem pole, which is why we have to perceive to be. I want to make sure. I think I said perceived, but if I did, I meant perceived. We're perceived to be at the bottom, which is why we have that pride where, like, nah, we ain't about to. This is the only thing we got, so we ain't about to lose it. I'm asking. I'm asking. [01:16:03] Speaker B: I don't know, my nigga. Like, again, I think that it goes back to, you know, like a fucking. And I don't know how accurate it was, but I know it rang somewhat true when I first heard it. What on white men can't jump when the nigga said the black movie, a black man would rather fucking look good than play good and lose, then fucking not look good and win like you. It's. It's. It's the way we. We got to do certain things our way. We have to. We can't do it. We can't. We can't. [01:16:40] Speaker A: The things where the immigrants versus the black. Yep. Is different. Yeah, those are the things. Yeah. [01:16:46] Speaker B: And it's. And there wasn't. There was a level of truth in that, right? Like, there was, there's definitely, that rang true to me when I saw it, because I've seen niggas play hoop flashy and try to do the shit behind. [01:16:57] Speaker A: The back pass, right. [01:16:58] Speaker B: And try to do shit that it didn't need to be done. That wasn't winning plays, you know, I mean, instead of just waking, making winning plays, right. And I don't know what it is about. It's like, we have to be extra. We like that shit. We, we. And it's not us, just as, I mean, there's white boys that are extra with their fucking four foot high trucks and shit, you know, raised up with lights on the fucking rims and shit ball sacks hanging from their fucking back of their trailer hitches and shit. Like they're looking look at me type shit, too. But for the great majority, I think they're just okay winning. You know, I mean, like. And it's because they are winning, right? Like, I think that's the part of it. They, they know that they don't have to necessarily do all of that extra shit and still can win. [01:17:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:17:44] Speaker B: So I don't think that, you know, these other races want to dismantle racism. Yeah, I don't think they, I mean. [01:17:53] Speaker A: Because some of the racism does benefit them due to their lighter tone, privilege and things like that. So they've, they're also, they're not as feared. [01:18:01] Speaker B: They're getting. They're not as feared as, I hate to say it is us. [01:18:06] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. So they've experienced some of it. That's what you're like, oh, if I was really white, I would not experience none of it. And while us, we don't even experience. Not even. [01:18:15] Speaker B: Well, what if they've already figured out, like, listen, listen, if I don't be so demonstrative or aggressive or fear fearful, I can get by already. Just, you know, let these niggas play that role. Let them be the motherfuckers that ready to fucking nut up on motherfuckers at a drop of a hat and do all of this other shit. And then they take all the heat and I can get up a little bit under. More under the radar. [01:18:41] Speaker A: Did we ever. I remember we always used to talk about that. Did we decide who, which version of black people there is more niggas versus just regular law bodies black people? Well, no, there's. [01:18:51] Speaker B: We definitely said that there's more non niggas. Right. But the niggas are allowed. They're the loud and they're, they're the ones that, you know, you see. Like, again, I, there was so in, the perfect example is, in the nineties, when I moved to Chicago, everybody I saw was like, what gang you in? What gang you in? What gang you like, nigga? Everybody's not in a gang from California. Like, that's not a thing. But that's what was propagandized at the time. And, and so you couldn't tell them all, fuck if you was coming from California, that you wasn't a blood or a crip. And it's, it's just the way it is because that's what was being shown, that. That worst part of it was all that anybody thought was all of it. And it's the same thing with the niggas that you do see showing out, wearing their fucking bonnets, doing all this. Niggas is wearing bonnets now. I don't understand none of this. [01:19:43] Speaker A: What happened to durags? [01:19:44] Speaker B: This shit didn't jump the fucking shark, man. And it ain't Jamaicans. It ain't niggas with dreads either. It's not. [01:19:49] Speaker A: Yeah, niggas, we haircuts. [01:19:50] Speaker B: It's just like, my lord, bro, I don't even know if it's gay. Niggas. Like, I. I'm just like, damn, this bonnet game that you talk about propaganda. [01:19:58] Speaker A: Yeah, niggas are wearing. [01:19:59] Speaker B: That's the one, man. That's the one that got everybody then fucking that. It's okay to put that shit on your head. And now niggas protective hairstyle. [01:20:07] Speaker A: That's what they say. [01:20:09] Speaker B: Protect it. Your shit has to be so trash underneath. Like, I've seen bad haircuts. I've seen homeless people that I feel like, that's okay. Just don't put a bonnet on that bitch. Like that. That PZ ass, half mashed together, half dread, half not combed, fucking Katie looking shit on the side. All of that. Like, that got. That's better than when you walking around with that fucking Cooney ass fucking bonnet on your head. [01:20:39] Speaker A: Yeah, but anyways, that was a lot of energy, guys. You guys look tired. [01:20:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Nah, man, I'm just. When he, you know, racing me. [01:20:48] Speaker A: Yeah. So I never answered. I don't know, French. That's a tough one. I don't know that I want to be any other race. Yeah. You know, I think it's interesting hearing you guys talk about it, considering, you know, my experiences in life and stuff and. And how, you know, I've always talked about. People will say things like, oh, you're both and. But to each race I'm neither. So like, black people like, well, you're not exactly black. And white people like, oh, you're not exactly white. Right. So it's like, there's like, I guess I get a different perspective. Every mixed people say that. [01:21:18] Speaker B: Well, it's true. [01:21:19] Speaker A: It's the truth. But they, like, you're assuming. You're assuming from your perspective that we're both. However, what you don't realize is that you're also at the same time telling me I'm not exactly black. Even if it's in a nice way. Yeah, I know, that makes sense. That makes sense. So you're not even. You don't even think I'm both. You think I'm neither? I think you're black. I think you're actually black. Good. Because when I think of you, I look at you as a black man and one of my, one of my close friends, he's mixed. And he said he had to make this. He had to choose which one. Yeah. Like there was a point where he's like, oh, I'm gonna choose. And then, cuz he's mixed, he looks like the society already judges him as a black man. Yeah. [01:21:55] Speaker B: And then that's your choice right there. [01:21:57] Speaker A: Like, I mean, you could. [01:21:58] Speaker B: Yeah, you could try to choose. [01:22:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:22:00] Speaker B: But what is, what is society gonna tell you? [01:22:03] Speaker A: What is he white side? Because his dad is black. But he didn't, he doesn't really have. He knows his dad, but he didn't really have a good relationship. They grew up with his mom. Yeah, white mom got remarried. White guy. Like, he grew up in a white household. [01:22:18] Speaker B: But, but you know, you can't, you can't walk in a room and be like, hey, I'm white. [01:22:25] Speaker A: Well, you can, you can some cut your hair different, you gotta dress differently, you gotta act and walk different. So you'd have to put more affectation on your voice. Yeah, you have to put more into it. But you, you I could definitely get away with if I, if I completely. If I completely. Yeah. Shave down and cut my hair a certain way. Wore like the other day, I was wearing a white ball cap and some different shoes, y'all. Like, oh, golf is next. You know what I'm saying? Like, think, think that. That vision of what you guys try to play me as, right. If I push everything towards that, it would be. It wouldn't. You would still know. I think you italian. You. Yeah. But, you know, there, I could be some everywhere that we go right outside of this country. They don't know that I'm black, right? Nobody thinks I'm black. They think I'm something else. Puerto rican, cuban, greek. I see the Greek. There have been a few different ones. And it's really about my dress and my hair. If I were to change some of those things up, I think it would be difficult to know. And I think that's probably why I don't have the, like, the conflict you guys have where Max said he would and you said you wouldn't. I don't think I had that because I think that's kind of a reality for me, where I've had to actually do it. Oh, yeah. [01:23:32] Speaker B: So, you know, I'm saying yeah, for sure. And I think French Reggie's kind of bullshitting too, right? Because. Because when he goes into an interview, right, when he goes into these, you know, he. Where he's working business and doing shit like that. He not, he not. He not being as black as he can be. He's not, like, professional. [01:23:50] Speaker A: That's weird, man. Are you saying professional is white? How does someone act black? [01:23:55] Speaker B: You know how they can act black? Like, tell us. [01:23:59] Speaker A: You. [01:23:59] Speaker B: You get that. You've had that service, what you want, right? [01:24:03] Speaker A: Yeah. On a job interview or any business meeting, you should not talk like what you want. You should just be a professional. What did I did? I just used on the go viral, but they were joking. Somebody who went, like, for a job interview or some, like, a stupid job, but he certain shirt and tie. Yeah. What? Yeah. No, no. Why y'all joking? Is due for putting on the. Right. Listen, you'll be surprised. Nowadays, these kids do not dress up for job interview. Small job. [01:24:26] Speaker B: I didn't know nothing about that. The. Every job I ever applied for, I wore. I wore a shirt and tie absolutely every single day. [01:24:33] Speaker A: I think if I didn't, I did something like maybe a button down shirt, but I had a jacket on with it. [01:24:38] Speaker B: Right. [01:24:39] Speaker A: I've never not gone into a. [01:24:40] Speaker B: Well, that's. That's more recent, I think. I think we've gotten more business casual. That's been more acceptable. [01:24:45] Speaker A: Right, but earlier still. Slack still. But these kids now, like, I remember my first job was Zaxby's. I was GQ'd up. What does GQ mean? Suit, tie. Okay. Everything to go work at Zaxby's. Now these kids will come in dressed like I am. Just right now. Yeah, I saw that with my own eyes at Wendy's. I went to go get some food at Wendy's. [01:25:05] Speaker B: That's why I don't eat fast food no more. [01:25:07] Speaker A: And then I saw a kid come in for a job interview. Yeah. Easy slides on a hoodie and a sweatpants. And he sat down with the manager because, you know, they do those interviews, right? See him like, this thing's about to get this job. [01:25:18] Speaker B: I can't be trusted. [01:25:19] Speaker A: They should put all those pictures on the wall of how you looked in your interview to decide whether I want to hear or not. [01:25:25] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, right. Let me get hired. [01:25:28] Speaker A: Instead of the health score, they get hired. So my thing is, I can't even be mad at the kids. Like, well, if. If they're not about to get no consequences for coming up to the job interview like that, can you blame them? Can you blame them? So does that. They do get hired, but does that make it easier to move up? [01:25:45] Speaker B: I don't know. [01:25:46] Speaker A: In that field, like, if you're, if you're a fast food worker, is it, does it make it easier if you, let's say you show up in your suit and then you come to work like you want to be at work? Does that make it easier for you? Are you. Oh, yeah, you can move up GM quickly. Yeah. But do you though that? And see, that would be, that would be the proof in the pudding is like, yo, all you gotta do is care a little bit. If you care a little bit, you go from this to this. This fast. Right? And I think that may coerce more people to start doing it, but what they look and see is that nobody respects this job at all. And so why would I even. I don't want to move up in this job. I don't even want to have a job. I'm gonna be an entrepreneur. I wanna. [01:26:18] Speaker B: I wanna have a content creator. [01:26:20] Speaker A: That entrepreneurship that social media created, I fucking hate it. [01:26:24] Speaker B: I wanna play video games for. I fucking hate it. Because it's like, I gotta play true entrepreneurship. [01:26:30] Speaker A: You're not about to get candy crackers in Nigeria now. We've been making money. We in shop, right? Stores. Money is coming. Yeah. All that money's double down again. It's like, we don't. We get it double down. What do you mean? Oh, you put it back in the dollar for myself. So what people don't know about having money, though, is you. So you go in and you do your, your, you put in your paperwork to have your job, right? You have to claim deductions and all that kind of stuff. So they take out enough money so the end of the year, you don't owe. Right. But after you reach a certain income, level. It doesn't matter what you put on that paper, you're going to owe it into the year, right? You can do 99. So you. Let's say you make $100,000, right? You make $100,000, and they're going to take about 30% of that out of your check throughout the year. And then at the end of the year, they're going to take another five or $10,000. So you're. You started with 100, but you really only end up bringing home $60,000, you know what I'm saying? And so I don't know. I don't know why I brought that up. I'm trying to remember why I brought up the difference between employment and ownership. That's what you. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And so they think, well, that's bullshit. I'm gonna just start my own company. Not realizing that, bro. It's worse there. You gotta pay everybody before you pay. Difference. The only difference is, at the end of the day, you can make your own schedule. But guess what? You really can't even make your own schedule, because if the business calls for it, you're at work, my nigga. [01:27:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:56] Speaker A: You're at work. And it's all. [01:27:59] Speaker B: Ain't no days, like, right? Ain't no calling out sick. [01:28:02] Speaker A: Yeah, you can't call out sick. You can't decide not to go in today. You can't decide that. Oh, I'm gonna leave early every day. I don't ever want to work past noon. That's not real. Yeah, I have a cousin that did it. I have a friend. I have a friend. Yeah, you probably got some anecdotal stuff, but for the most part, you're not gonna get a break by being an entrepreneur. It's gonna be harder work. It's harder work. And it's like, like it's a long term plan. Like, even if you hit early, you gotta play the long game. You can't just. I just saw. You can't, man. I just read a article talking about all the billionaires under 30 years old. Every single one of them is inherited. Every single. There's zero billionaires under the age of 30 who didn't get their money from billions. Yeah, 30, 30 years don't even. That's too short of a time to even acquire that much wealth. But 18, that's when you really have a brain power to start making money. Yeah, but these niggas will have you out here believing that you're gonna be a billionaire if you just put your content together, if you just. Yo, you just gotta do this. You gotta just. Man, we can stream this month. No, bruh, there's 00:30 year olds that are billionaires 30 and under zero. [01:29:08] Speaker B: They're not inherited. [01:29:09] Speaker A: That are not inherited. Outside of probably Mark, he was probably the only one under 30. [01:29:13] Speaker B: Not now. [01:29:14] Speaker A: But I'm saying he was probably the only one. Oh, no, I'm talking about right now. Right now there are 00:30 year olds. [01:29:19] Speaker B: He stole that shit, though. [01:29:21] Speaker A: And he stole that shit. But I'm saying he was probably the only one that was under 30, dead, or quote unquote, organically made that billion. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, we better get out of here. Is anything else you guys got? [01:29:32] Speaker B: Nah, he's a plant, though. He don't even look real. [01:29:35] Speaker A: Yeah, his eyes are pretty far spaced. [01:29:36] Speaker B: Yeah, he talks. I'd be like, that niggas, he's alien or AI or something. That niggas not human. [01:29:43] Speaker A: So ever since he was born, he was not human. Or they did. I think they groom in a petri dish. [01:29:50] Speaker B: He's half gray or something. [01:29:52] Speaker A: Somebody by Mr. Squeeze his head in half grade, somebody squeezed his head and his eyeball went to the far left. Too far. Anyway, listeners, keep supporting us, keep interacting with us, and we'll keep bringing the nonsense because we realize that sometimes people just need to laugh. Till next time, 10% less bullshit than. [01:30:06] Speaker B: Any other podcast, guaranteed.