Which Mack am I talking to?

[00:00:00] Speaker A: The views and opinions expressed by the no Nonsense show and its host do. [00:00:02] Speaker B: Not necessarily reflect views consistent with political. [00:00:05] Speaker A: Correctness or the Rare Sonnets Podcast Network. So to get the show started right, we want to wish any officers of the sensitivity police a heartfelt. [00:00:13] Speaker C: This is my least favorite time of the year. [00:00:15] Speaker B: Summertime. [00:00:16] Speaker C: This ain't summertime. [00:00:17] Speaker A: Spring. [00:00:17] Speaker B: Springtime. [00:00:18] Speaker A: Oh, pollen temple. [00:00:19] Speaker C: Yeah, this, this. [00:00:21] Speaker B: I learned the other day that the reason why we have a lot of pollen is because of. They didn't want female trees because it grows fruits. So they was like, it, we're just going to plant all male trees. Capitalism pretty much, huh? That's what I heard. [00:00:36] Speaker C: What? [00:00:36] Speaker A: Say it again. [00:00:36] Speaker B: So I heard the reason why we have like a high count of pollen in this state is because I guess when they were developing the state, when they were putting the trees, they said, we're going to plant only male trees that way. Because if you plant female trees, female trees grow fruits. And I guess they didn't want people to have access. [00:00:53] Speaker C: What kind of fruit do you get from a pine tree? [00:00:55] Speaker A: Well, I was trying to figure out how the. They got to do a pollen because. [00:00:58] Speaker B: Because pollen only comes from male trees. [00:00:59] Speaker A: Oh, didn't see. That was an interesting, interesting morsel. That was. [00:01:02] Speaker B: Pollen is pretty much just the nut sperm. [00:01:04] Speaker C: Yeah, we in the bukkake zone right now. You are listening to the no nonsense show. 10% less bullshit than any other podcast, guaranteed. Like, this shit is real. [00:01:33] Speaker A: Well, it's kind of like a cuckold thing, right? Cause the bee has to take it so the tree don't even get to fuck the other tree. Yeah, it's the bee that has to go fuck the tree. So it's kind of like Ray French Reggie's situation. He likes that. That's why he knows much about this. He probably didn't know shit about pollen and which trees created pollen until the cuckold thing. And now he's just everything cuckold. He's like, anytime an animal in the animal kingdom is cuckolding another animal, I want to see. [00:01:57] Speaker C: I want to see it. Like, he probably watched tree cuckold videos. [00:02:00] Speaker A: And it looks like that be licked. [00:02:02] Speaker C: That pilot he got on the. He got. Took some shrooms and went down a dark spiral. Like, oh, yeah, that's wild as. Look, take it. Take all of that. Take all that pollen. No, but I was driving home and it almost looked like smoke. Like, I could definitely see it in the air. [00:02:20] Speaker A: In the air. [00:02:21] Speaker B: Yeah, it's bad. [00:02:22] Speaker C: And I was like, what the. I was like, what the Fuck is that? [00:02:24] Speaker A: Two days ago was the record for. [00:02:26] Speaker C: Yes. [00:02:26] Speaker B: How do they even calculate that? Like, how. What is the math process? [00:02:30] Speaker A: To know this, I'm sure it's something along the lines of they put something in the air, like a sensor that has some type of field in it, and it collects a certain amount of stuff in the air because, I mean, you can see the shit in the air. [00:02:41] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:02:41] Speaker A: If you. If you hit something, you see it fly up, right? Like even. And that's hard. That's like a park bench, right? You had a park benches everywhere. Because it's trying to nut. Trying to get that nut out. You know what I'm saying? That nut is light. [00:02:52] Speaker C: I mean, what I. When I realized it was a problem, it was on the dogs. Like, they go outside and I came in and I just wiped them. I was wiping their paws, right. Cuz Trying to get them off the feet, right? But then I was like, okay, well let me get another one. And I just wiped their. Their coat. And it was on them that way too. And I was like, bro, we. We just was out here like around a. [00:03:11] Speaker A: A trigger on his ass, right? [00:03:13] Speaker C: Like, if you got allergy issues, you might have to move. Like, for real. [00:03:16] Speaker A: Like, I didn't, I didn't move. I have real bad allergies. [00:03:18] Speaker C: And you just dealt with them. [00:03:20] Speaker A: Well, you know what's crazy is since I've had dogs and had to take the day. The daily allergy pill I don't have. I don't have such a hard time with. With pollen anymore. [00:03:28] Speaker C: But you got hypoallergenic dogs anyway, though, right? [00:03:30] Speaker A: But I still got to take that pill, bro. I would die in here with. Without that pill. Okay, so it's just loratadine too. It's just like a 10% Loretta. It's not even like Claritin anything. It's just a very mild allergy generic version of something. And I take it every day. It's 10 milligrams. And ever since I started taking it, my springs and my falls have been. Because, you know, it's not just spring. It's fall too. [00:03:50] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:03:51] Speaker A: Ragweed and whatever the. Is here in Atlanta. But yeah, it's really bad, though. [00:03:56] Speaker C: This is. This is in the cars. Like, I. I have a membership at the car wash, right? Yeah, it doesn't make it. It's. I mean, I could go every day. It doesn't matter. Like, I, I. By the time I get home, literally. [00:04:09] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. [00:04:10] Speaker C: It's. It's. I could see it all over my shit Again. And it's just like, the black cars are the worst. My. My son's friend just got a new black car. [00:04:20] Speaker A: Yeah, black's worse. [00:04:21] Speaker C: It's horrible. Like, it's just. It looks. Your car. Yeah, your car looks trash. [00:04:25] Speaker A: I saw. I saw some good marketing other day, though. A car wash like you go to says, buy one car wash, get 29 free. [00:04:31] Speaker C: That's pretty good marketing, that monthly membership. [00:04:36] Speaker A: Pretty good marketing. [00:04:37] Speaker C: Yeah, that. That is. That's pretty good. You get. That's probably just the first month for sure. [00:04:42] Speaker B: No, no, it's just because of the subscription. [00:04:44] Speaker A: Yeah. You pay a month. So you pay one time and one. The monthly payment is not too much. [00:04:49] Speaker C: You're right. You're right. [00:04:49] Speaker A: It's about the price of a car. [00:04:51] Speaker C: It really is. Now that I think it's a little bit more. Yeah. [00:04:53] Speaker B: Unless if you get the basic one for like nine hours. [00:04:56] Speaker A: But you can monthly any of the. The plans, right? You get monthly the lowest one or the highest one. [00:05:01] Speaker C: Yeah, like. No, I need it all. I need the. The wheel grease and on my. [00:05:06] Speaker A: Yeah, so that's a pretty good marking, though, because it. That's really what it is. You pay one time and you come all week, all month. [00:05:11] Speaker C: Yeah. And I. I mean, I really app. I do appreciate that, like, when it's not this time of the year, because. Yeah, I can just like, oh, my shit's dirty. So what, I just roll in tomorrow? [00:05:21] Speaker A: Yeah, you say, so what? You say to yourself like that? Yeah, my shit's dirty, so what? [00:05:25] Speaker C: Yeah, so what? I don't give a. Because I got a membership. I'll just roll up in there tomorrow. [00:05:29] Speaker A: How nice of you to on yourself like that. [00:05:33] Speaker C: I mean, it's just. [00:05:34] Speaker B: Do you. [00:05:35] Speaker A: Do you talk to yourself with attitude sometimes? [00:05:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:05:37] Speaker A: Really? Okay. [00:05:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:05:38] Speaker A: Like a little sarcasm. [00:05:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:05:39] Speaker A: To yourself. [00:05:40] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:05:40] Speaker A: And the first one is like, unexpecting. The first statement is unexpecting. The second one is like, dripping with sarcasm. [00:05:46] Speaker C: Yeah, right. [00:05:47] Speaker A: And that's the. That's the relationship you like to have with yourself sometimes. Okay, that's up. [00:05:51] Speaker C: But come on, bro. [00:05:51] Speaker A: That's like punishment to yourself. No, man, it's like being an. To yourself. [00:05:55] Speaker C: Sometimes you have to be right. Like, you gotta. You gotta get. You gotta get the. Right. So what? [00:05:58] Speaker A: We got a membership. [00:05:59] Speaker C: You gotta get everybody in line. Sometimes. Sometimes people just. [00:06:02] Speaker B: Everybody. This nigga gotta split. You got you. [00:06:04] Speaker A: You never went back and listened to the minds of Mac. [00:06:07] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:06:08] Speaker A: Yeah. This got a lot of guys. [00:06:10] Speaker C: Yeah. You just gotta. I mean. I mean, I think we all Do I think just. I'm willing to admit it. I think that most people have other. [00:06:21] Speaker B: Personalities. [00:06:22] Speaker C: Personalities. Yeah. For sure. Right. Like, and. And the people, like, oh, I'm 100. I'm the same everywhere. Like. Yeah. I don't know, man. Maybe. Maybe something happened to you then that you can't. You know, maybe when you were young. Yeah. [00:06:37] Speaker B: You can't even be the same person everywhere because everyone knows. Different kind of. [00:06:40] Speaker C: Come on. That doesn't. That doesn't. I mean, that, that's. That doesn't make sense. You have to be. You have to. You know, there's different times and there's different gears. [00:06:48] Speaker B: You. [00:06:48] Speaker C: If you're just that one bike with the one gear. [00:06:52] Speaker A: Messenger bike. [00:06:53] Speaker C: Yeah. Like the right. Those are. I would. I don't want that bike. I need. The more. The more gears you can give me. I want a 22 speed, a 30 speed. Like that sounds lazy. Yeah, man, whatever. I think it just works. [00:07:05] Speaker A: That's what equity into it. [00:07:06] Speaker C: No, it just works, right? Like it works for whatever I need. Like if I hit that. That steep hill, I got a gear for that. [00:07:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:13] Speaker C: Coming down that steep hill. Yeah, I got a gear for that. [00:07:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:16] Speaker C: So. Yeah, like one gear doesn't fit all. It doesn't work that way. Yeah, you don't. You don't. With one gear. [00:07:22] Speaker A: Yes, you do. [00:07:23] Speaker C: No, you don't. You got more. You need to stop. [00:07:25] Speaker A: You got a gearbox on your dick. [00:07:27] Speaker C: I. I got different gears with. And you know that. That's you. I don't know why you front right now. [00:07:32] Speaker A: I only got one, bro. [00:07:33] Speaker C: You lying ass hard and fast and strong. [00:07:37] Speaker A: If that ain't what you into, ma'am, I'm sorry, but that's the only gear I got. Get it lubed up early. [00:07:46] Speaker C: I need your help, bro. [00:07:47] Speaker A: Get it lubed up early. [00:07:49] Speaker C: Come on, don't be. [00:07:50] Speaker B: You gotta have different gears. [00:07:53] Speaker C: I thought I knew you wasn't gonna sell out on me on this one. [00:07:56] Speaker A: He got a two speed. He act like he got gear. A gear. [00:07:59] Speaker B: Like the gear you mentioned is gear to use. But. But you got to have different gear sometimes. Just, just. [00:08:06] Speaker C: Just because you know, you. I remember you tell me, B. When I first started driving that, like, what's that thing where you like to listen to people? Like, you just listen to different things. Like the combing of something like bristles. [00:08:19] Speaker A: Amsr. [00:08:20] Speaker C: Amsr, Right. Like your amsr is the downshifting of a. Of a semi truck. [00:08:24] Speaker B: Oh. [00:08:27] Speaker A: I love that. [00:08:28] Speaker C: You gotta have that in the bedroom too, bro. You gotta have that. [00:08:30] Speaker A: I Thought you said it was an air brake. [00:08:32] Speaker C: It is. Well, no, it's. It's. So. No, that's actually when you're in a manual transmission and you're actually just downshifting when you downshift, that it. That's what that sound makes. If you're in an automatic, you can use the engine braking and kind of get that. But the real one, like, you're talking about that, that's you just downshifting. [00:08:51] Speaker A: It's so aggressive and loud. [00:08:52] Speaker C: Yeah, I like it, though. Yeah. No, again, you. I don't know. I know you doing that. I know you. You making that sound in the bedroom, too. [00:08:58] Speaker A: I got one gear in the bed. Hard, fast, strong and violent. Disrespectful. [00:09:06] Speaker C: This boy. Wallet out, man. This boy. [00:09:10] Speaker A: All you can do is. All she can do is just give me a time. How much time you think you could take this? 10 minutes. [00:09:18] Speaker B: What? [00:09:18] Speaker A: We got time. Pineapples. Pineapples. We talking about a gearbox in the bed. [00:09:33] Speaker C: She heard. That's why she came in and tried to shut the door. She. [00:09:36] Speaker A: They saying they got all these gears and fancy. I'm like, no, I just want gear. Hard, strong, fast. Violet. She left. [00:09:45] Speaker C: Quick bye. If y'all didn't hear that, listeners, that's how that ended. Quick bye. [00:09:52] Speaker A: No more. [00:09:56] Speaker C: So, yeah, no, I. I just. I'm glad that. I'll be glad when. This is like a month. Did this last? [00:10:02] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, sure. [00:10:03] Speaker C: This is horrible. [00:10:05] Speaker A: I don't even think it's that long. It's like a couple of weeks. Like a period. It's like an extended period. [00:10:09] Speaker C: Yeah. And my problem is that you can't touch anything. And then my problem is I do touch. [00:10:14] Speaker A: Well, that's two problems. [00:10:15] Speaker C: That is true. [00:10:16] Speaker A: So you say my problems are. [00:10:18] Speaker C: Right. [00:10:18] Speaker A: How you gonna say my problem is and say my problem is again? [00:10:22] Speaker C: I told you that one is. What is their problem? [00:10:26] Speaker A: Like, that's another version that was back to back. My problem is you can't touch anything. My problem is you can't. [00:10:34] Speaker C: Like. [00:10:35] Speaker B: Right. [00:10:36] Speaker C: You just got a little. Little taste of that, bro. Like I'm saying, like, the one part of me is like, listen, do not put your hands on anything after you've been outside. [00:10:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:47] Speaker C: Like your body or something. And the other one's like, hey, our nose itches. Like. Like, wipe your nose with your hand or something. Or, you know, do something touch your face. And. And then it's like, you. Why'd you just do that? [00:10:59] Speaker A: I opened my sunroof the other day and I just saw it Just coming in like snow. [00:11:03] Speaker C: Yeah, it's just, it's, it's. And I hadn't covered my, my smoker. But then I was like, I looked at it, it was yellow. It hose it off and put the COVID on. I was like, I'm tripping because this is the same. The same for that. [00:11:17] Speaker B: But welcome. [00:11:18] Speaker A: Welcome to Georgia, man. [00:11:19] Speaker C: Yeah, and that's the weird part about it is like I. Sacramento is called the city of trees, but anybody got female trees? I. I guess, right? There's a lot of trees in Sacramento and I never experienced it. [00:11:31] Speaker A: What are you like a horticulturist? What are those things called? [00:11:33] Speaker C: I wish this guy. [00:11:36] Speaker A: Is that what that's called? Horticulture? [00:11:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:11:38] Speaker A: The. Do you know about this for? Did you learn that in one of your disciplines? [00:11:42] Speaker C: But he don't got no. He don't got no weed plants. How you gonna be a horror culture and smoke weed and not have no weed? [00:11:48] Speaker B: Come on, bro, you need a license and all that. You know, I'm a legal man. I'm a law abiding man. [00:11:52] Speaker C: That is true. That is true. You definitely are that. So. [00:11:55] Speaker A: I mean, I think I am too. [00:11:57] Speaker C: No, listen, we all are. What are we talking about here? I don't know why we having to put this disclaimer out here which you is saying is. [00:12:03] Speaker A: I have to ask now I feel like I have to ask what you were saying. [00:12:06] Speaker C: Like we all. When I said we, I meant all of me. Like all. All of we are. I mean, of course you guys are, but we are too. [00:12:15] Speaker A: Sure, sure. We can. I can we get separate trials. I don't want to be co defendants because this thing going to jail. One of this, One of this is going to jail. I don't want to be part of any. They might try rico. What they. What if they arrest you in a rico? [00:12:31] Speaker C: Right, right. Conspiracy. Like. Yeah, I've heard. I've seen the. We've heard the conversation. [00:12:38] Speaker A: We just can't never get them in the same room at the same time. We crying. [00:12:42] Speaker C: We've been listening and we heard the conversations. Just tell us who it is. Just. Just tell us, we'll go easy on you. Nah, I ain't around like that. [00:12:54] Speaker B: That's crazy. Yo, I was watching. I was. I was watching Netflix, a show called Adolescence. Long story short, it's like a young boy, like 12, 13. [00:13:03] Speaker C: I started. It's slow though. [00:13:06] Speaker B: It's like a four episode series, bro. [00:13:09] Speaker C: What does that have to do with it being slow? So like the. For me, I. Listen, I haven't gotten through the second one. The first one, it just says he's getting arrested. Yeah, but it's just. It's. Have you seen it be. [00:13:20] Speaker A: I haven't seen it. [00:13:21] Speaker C: It's. It's like. It's a British one. It's the dude from Top Boy. [00:13:26] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, somebody. The main character. [00:13:28] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, he's the cop in there. [00:13:30] Speaker A: Yeah, I saw the. I saw the. The COVID The COVID art or whatever. What does that call for a movie cover art? [00:13:37] Speaker B: Right. [00:13:37] Speaker A: It can't be the COVID art. [00:13:39] Speaker C: Yeah, because it's movie art. [00:13:41] Speaker A: Maybe. I guess that used to be. They used to be discs, so maybe it is cover art. [00:13:45] Speaker C: Yeah, maybe. [00:13:46] Speaker B: Yeah, but it's. The Show's about this 12 year old boy that ended up killing this classmate of Diddy, though. [00:13:51] Speaker C: Don't doing a still spoiler. [00:13:53] Speaker B: Oh, shit. [00:13:54] Speaker C: Damn you. [00:13:55] Speaker A: What? How did this just happen? [00:13:58] Speaker B: Technically? No, no, I'm not fixing it. [00:14:01] Speaker A: I'm gonna try to forget what you say. [00:14:03] Speaker C: Gosh damn it. [00:14:04] Speaker B: Technically, they never prov. The way the show ends. They never prove they never said. Like he never said they watch that show now. [00:14:11] Speaker C: But I'm glad I didn't waste my fucking time if I get four episodes. [00:14:15] Speaker B: But the show is talking about the effects of red pill content. Like exaggerated the effects of red pill content on young men. Which is why that boy was accused of killing that girl. [00:14:25] Speaker A: Because he was influenced by red pill stuff or because they thought he was. Did he actually get influenced by red pill? [00:14:32] Speaker B: They didn't go into details in the show about that. They didn't really go into details. [00:14:37] Speaker C: I'm lost. It doesn't sound like a great. [00:14:40] Speaker B: They just talked about how they just talk about. They talked about it a little bit, but it. If I have to answer your question. Yes. Because the. What triggered him is because the girl called him an incel. And then that's what triggered the violent act. [00:14:54] Speaker A: Jimmy Mack, Are you following? What did I ask that he said yes to? [00:14:58] Speaker C: Was he. Did red pill actually influence him? [00:15:01] Speaker A: Oh, okay. And it did. [00:15:03] Speaker B: Yeah. If I have to go by what the show is trying to do. Yes. [00:15:06] Speaker A: Okay. [00:15:06] Speaker B: Yes. Because that's what the show is trying to show the audience. [00:15:10] Speaker A: So is it. [00:15:11] Speaker B: Pay attention. [00:15:11] Speaker A: Yes. [00:15:12] Speaker B: Pay attention to your little boys. [00:15:13] Speaker A: I can't watch propaganda anymore. And I know, I know all of it is. [00:15:16] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [00:15:16] Speaker A: But there's some that are just blatant, right? [00:15:19] Speaker B: No, this is a blatant. [00:15:20] Speaker A: What's the one with Robert De Niro? That's on Netflix. [00:15:22] Speaker B: It's new 00 day. I watched that completely pro. [00:15:25] Speaker A: You watch that, bro. [00:15:27] Speaker B: You kind of have to watch that. I need to know that. [00:15:29] Speaker A: 20 minutes. 20 minutes. Oh, no, this is to make us feel a certain way. [00:15:32] Speaker C: About 20 minutes. I watched the trailer and I was like, oh, I see. What. [00:15:36] Speaker A: They don't watch trailers. [00:15:37] Speaker C: Yeah, no, like, that's how I knew. I was like, oh, I think I want to watch this. And then I watched it and I was like, wait a minute, did you watch it? I was like, no, they got a bunch of heavy hitters in here. Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, I mean, Angela and Dinero and all that. [00:15:49] Speaker A: That's why I was like, ah, no, but I. I don't watch trailers because I'll figure out the whole show if I do that or the whole movie. So I don't watch the trailers. I have to. I have to go in blind. [00:15:56] Speaker C: Yeah, like, they. I mean, when she said that they were violent, when they were talking about violating people's civil rights and just snatching people out of their house, and she's like, do you want me to do the. So you're gonna just, you know, do this? And he's like, no, you're gonna do that. And it's the ex president that, you know, he's the ex president. [00:16:12] Speaker A: She's the new president or something. [00:16:13] Speaker C: Right. [00:16:14] Speaker A: But if you watch it though, it immediately, immediately sets in. There's a certain kind of person who this move, this show is respectful to. And it's so obviously that you know that angle. So once I start seeing that. The left. Yeah. Or not just the left, but a specific subset or a specific group of people. Like, if it's obvious that they're just advocating for women for no reason. [00:16:37] Speaker C: Right. Hand meself. [00:16:39] Speaker A: I look at that as I look at it as, to me, it's as offensive as seeing two dudes tongue kiss. [00:16:47] Speaker C: Right. [00:16:48] Speaker A: And I know people like, there's nothing wrong with. Well, yeah, there is. That's why everybody says something when they see it. That's why everybody feels disgusted when they watch it. [00:16:55] Speaker C: Right. [00:16:55] Speaker A: Whether or not. Whether or not you're okay with that or you're progressive enough to be like, we should see more guys tongue kissing each other in the backs of each other's mouth and spit exchange from two guys. [00:17:06] Speaker C: Right. [00:17:06] Speaker A: The people that feel like that. I don't agree with you. [00:17:08] Speaker C: It's funny because people always ask me, like, about, you know, Brokeback, and I'm like, I never even watched it. I don't have a little bit of it. I have no Desire? [00:17:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:15] Speaker C: I have no desire to watch them two dudes. [00:17:18] Speaker A: That's a great movie. But I wondering, is it. Was it a great movie or was just great that somebody was taking a chance, you know? [00:17:23] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:23] Speaker A: That's different, though. That ain't the same thing. [00:17:25] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, Will, you know, will tongue kiss the dude in. In, you know, Six Degrees of Separation. [00:17:31] Speaker A: You know, I mean, did he actually do it? You've seen it? Yeah, I haven't seen that either. [00:17:34] Speaker C: Yeah, it was weird. It was. It was like an indie movie, right? Like, obviously at the time, it wasn't mainstream at all, but. [00:17:41] Speaker A: Yeah, no, they heard it was a good movie also. [00:17:43] Speaker C: It was different. For sure. It was. I mean, it wasn't bad. But again, I think that that was an. I don't. I don't know if it was. Maybe it was. I don't remember. It was a long time ago when I seen it. I mean, I think that was, like, one of his first early on, like, acting chops. One like, you know, I mean, after, you know, Fresh Prince, where, you know, that's kind of just Will being Will. This was like, him in a. In a character role. And he. And he. He played it pretty well. I mean, obviously you're like, damn, he acting like his ass off. This was tongue kissing another dude, right? And then you realize, like, that's kind of what he do. Maybe that was just Will being Will, too, then. I don't know. [00:18:18] Speaker B: That's what he do. [00:18:20] Speaker C: I mean, that's. That's the rumor on the street, bro. Like, I. I don't know. [00:18:23] Speaker B: The street was. Him and Jada just have, like, an open marriage. Come on, bro. [00:18:28] Speaker C: Come on, bro. [00:18:29] Speaker B: I forgot about. [00:18:29] Speaker A: What about one of the bodyguards or something? [00:18:31] Speaker C: Yeah, come on, bro. I forgot about the. [00:18:33] Speaker B: Dwayne. [00:18:33] Speaker A: It might all be. [00:18:35] Speaker C: It could be. Yeah, it could be. [00:18:37] Speaker B: But watching that show and then it was just funny because, like, I finished watching that show, and I was, like, scrolling through Instagram and they were talking about how apparently, as men age, we lose friends, but as women age, they gain friends, which is so weird to me. [00:18:55] Speaker A: Where is this study? [00:18:55] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't. [00:18:57] Speaker B: Scott Galloway talking about. [00:18:59] Speaker C: I would like to see this in real. I mean, I. I don't witness. I'm not witnessing this as a person. [00:19:04] Speaker A: Who just has the same friends. [00:19:05] Speaker B: That's what I thought. I was like, we kept the same. I got the same homies since first grade. [00:19:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, I have new friends, but it's slow. It's never like, oh, I got 15 new friends this month. [00:19:15] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:19:15] Speaker B: But it was just. And then YG dropped the song. It was like, chronologically this happened. And YG dropped a song talking about him being sa. Sexually assaulted. [00:19:25] Speaker A: What is. What. [00:19:26] Speaker C: Don't you do that again. Don't do that again. [00:19:29] Speaker B: Because sometimes you have to. Because the. No, the. No. The reason why I said that. Because when you post. If I was posting that clip, the algorithm wouldn't play it because it's a. [00:19:41] Speaker C: You said sexually assault. [00:19:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, the algorithm. [00:19:44] Speaker C: So that's not supposed to. [00:19:45] Speaker B: You can say it, but the algorithm won't push. [00:19:47] Speaker A: What if you say assault and it's not sexual assault? [00:19:49] Speaker B: I don't know about that word by itself. That's why. That's why certain words, people change. Like, instead of saying sexually assault, they say sa. Instead of rape, they say grape. Instead of murder, they say corn. Yeah, instead of what? Instead of porn, they will say corn. [00:20:05] Speaker C: Okay. What if you're not up? [00:20:07] Speaker B: Unalive is one of those things, too. That's why they created that alive. Instead of saying killing yourself. Yeah, it's because the algorithms. [00:20:13] Speaker C: Well, not yourself, Right. Like, you only unalive yourself. That was just weird. Why you said. [00:20:20] Speaker B: But that's when they usually use that term. [00:20:21] Speaker A: Well, here's the thing, right? I don't know. I don't know what planet you guys are existing, living on, but the whole reason we're using AI for stuff is so that we don't have to automatically go in and. I mean, we have to manually go in and make these changes, right? So I'm just guessing here. Said algorithm doesn't know people are saying grape now. [00:20:39] Speaker B: Fuck out. [00:20:40] Speaker A: Yeah, but it's an algorithm. It's a. It's AI, Right? So it knows and it's not stupid. So. [00:20:48] Speaker C: But we are. Because I would not know that. That when you said grape or. I don't know. [00:20:52] Speaker B: I know it based on the context. [00:20:54] Speaker C: I need a thesaurus. I need a fudgeing. You know, I've heard it done. [00:20:57] Speaker A: You would get it, but it's just stupid because who. Who are we tricking? Because we're not tricking humans. That's why we're doing it. We're doing it so that we can still say the word ish and humans will get it. Right, but we're tricking the algorithm, which is programmed by humans. [00:21:12] Speaker C: But this is the thing. [00:21:13] Speaker A: Make it make sense. [00:21:13] Speaker C: If he did not follow that up with the actual word, I wouldn't know what essay meant. [00:21:18] Speaker A: You. You would have if you were watching something where they said it. Because they'd say It. More than once. [00:21:21] Speaker C: Okay. [00:21:21] Speaker A: It would make sense. [00:21:22] Speaker C: Right. Okay. [00:21:23] Speaker A: What I'm saying, though, is that why did they think that the programming stopped there, right? Like, they put in all the words like rape, rape culture. And they can't throw grape in there, right? They can just throw it in. Takes half a second. [00:21:39] Speaker B: But I was. I was saying, like, I was thinking after watching all these things, I was. [00:21:42] Speaker A: Like, hold on, I'm sorry. [00:21:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:44] Speaker A: The reason why that's important is because it's not telling us that the word is wrong. It's teaching us to follow rules. No matter how fucking stupid. [00:21:52] Speaker C: Right. [00:21:53] Speaker A: No matter how retarded. We're still going to say unalive an essay because we're trying to prove that we fit into whatever they're saying we have to do. Again, that's bullshit. [00:22:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:22:02] Speaker A: The word means nothing. Grape is stupid. [00:22:04] Speaker C: Yes, it is. [00:22:05] Speaker A: And if you're gonna. If you're gonna penalize my. My upload because I said rape and you're gonna let it slide by because I said grape, then you're just teaching me to follow directions. You're not teaching me to not say things. [00:22:17] Speaker C: And then. And then I think, too. Just this popped in my head is like. It takes the. The oomph out of the word, right? [00:22:26] Speaker A: It doesn't, though. [00:22:27] Speaker C: No, it does, because it. No, because again, like, if you say, oh, they got graped. I'm like, yeah, yeah. [00:22:33] Speaker A: But I say I will grape you right now if you don't sit down somewhere. That'll take this thing out of it. I'm bigger than her and I'm in her face. She don't give a If I say lape tape, prank tape, plate. What word I use? [00:22:47] Speaker C: Yeah, it's. [00:22:49] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. The idea of rape or murder, all these. These heavy words. It's all about putting another letter in front of the right. Not murder. Slurter. I said slurter, Bobby. PG 13. It's not. Your mind goes to murder. And so then what is the point? We're not. So we're not teaching kids. So then kids are walking to my. I'm a grape you right, girl. Put that thing out for I grape you. [00:23:12] Speaker C: Right? That's what I'm saying. And now it doesn't. It doesn't sound as bad. [00:23:16] Speaker A: It does if he puts his dick in her. [00:23:17] Speaker C: And she didn't want, of course, that if he does the act. [00:23:19] Speaker A: But then we're talking about an act, not a word. [00:23:22] Speaker C: But we are talking about the word. [00:23:23] Speaker A: No, we're talking about an Act. That's just our symbol. We're talking about something horrible. [00:23:28] Speaker C: Yes. [00:23:29] Speaker A: And we're going to say grape so that it fits through and squeezes in. Why don't they want us saying rape? Let's talk about that. Why don't they want the word rape on a YouTube video? [00:23:37] Speaker B: For the sake of advertisement. What advertisement? [00:23:41] Speaker A: What does that mean? [00:23:41] Speaker B: Because some companies may not want to put their product to be ad on a video that talks about rape. [00:23:47] Speaker A: Okay, so by me saying, great, though. [00:23:50] Speaker C: Everybody loves grapes, right? Right. Especially black folks. That's grape drink. [00:23:55] Speaker A: That's not the same thing. Grape soda is not the same thing as grape. Got you again. [00:24:00] Speaker B: Coloring. [00:24:01] Speaker A: They got you again, man. [00:24:03] Speaker B: But I'm assuming that's why those things are in there. It's for the sake of advertising. [00:24:06] Speaker A: Right, but grape is no better. That's all I'm trying to say. Like, you know what the word is? You know why they're saying. No one is fooled by the words. [00:24:14] Speaker B: At Mac, but I guess the company can say, hey, they. [00:24:17] Speaker A: I said grape. [00:24:18] Speaker B: They said grape. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's a loophole that companies are. Or. [00:24:22] Speaker A: And that makes sense to you? [00:24:24] Speaker B: It doesn't make sense to me. But when you understand the algorithm game with everything that they do now, how they either shadow ban you or not shadow ban you, I see why people do it. I see why people change those words so they can fit in that algorithm. But my thing is, I want to know, is there a safe space for men, period, at any age? Like, I don't. Cause like, if something happens to a young boy, like, let's talk about that YG song. You 14 something happy. You get raped. [00:24:58] Speaker C: Okay, well, let's bring it. So, yeah, talk about the song. Cause I don't know if everybody. It just dropped. So I don't know if I just heard it. So I don't know if everybody's heard it. [00:25:04] Speaker B: Yeah, listeners, YG dropped a song called 2004. And the song is talking about how he was raped when he was 14 by a woman twice his age. And even in the song he talk about, he went to go talk to his homies about it, and then these homies was like, oh, bro, that's what's up. You got pussy. [00:25:19] Speaker A: Mac has said that many times. [00:25:20] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And that's what I'm saying. Is there a safe space for men to go talk to? [00:25:27] Speaker C: I'm not saying why you came to me. [00:25:29] Speaker A: Sounds like he did, bro. [00:25:30] Speaker C: Yeah, but if he had, you would. [00:25:34] Speaker B: Have said the same thing. [00:25:35] Speaker C: I mean, listen, I Mean, it's. It's the way he. He portrays it in the song, right? And I think that probably the breaking point was the last verse where he. She told him to eat the ass, right? Like, you know, I mean, there's probably. She's probably was too advanced. Like, at 14, you should not be eating ass. I mean, at 40, you probably shouldn't be eating ass. [00:25:59] Speaker A: What age did you start eating? [00:26:01] Speaker C: I was about to keep going. At 15, you probably shouldn't be eating ass. Like, but real talk. So the fact that you're doing it at 14 and you know someone twice. Twice your age coaxed you into doing it, right? Because you're, like, following their lead or whatever the case may be. And I think this is probably a perfect example of why this is not a good thing. Because you can be influenced easily, right? Your frontal lobe isn't fully developed. So you, like, eat the ass. Okay. When everything in you, like, I should not be doing this. Like, he said he threw up. Of course you did. [00:26:33] Speaker A: I can imagine she probably didn't clean that ass before she made me eat that ass either. Just because it was a kid. [00:26:38] Speaker C: I mean, you say you like nasty sex. That's the best way. [00:26:40] Speaker A: I mean, man, come on. [00:26:42] Speaker C: Well, no, I'm not talking about. I'm just talking about the cleanliness of it. [00:26:45] Speaker A: No, no, no. [00:26:45] Speaker B: For ass you gotta clean up, okay? [00:26:48] Speaker C: I just don't know how to just. [00:26:49] Speaker A: Be playing around with asses. My. Like, I just. Today's ass day. [00:26:54] Speaker C: Like. But you said you like it like, sex nasty. And, you know, I mean. [00:26:57] Speaker A: I mean, I like sex a little dirty. [00:26:59] Speaker C: So I'm saying how dirty did the. [00:27:01] Speaker A: Ass do to get dirty? [00:27:03] Speaker C: Ass dirty. [00:27:04] Speaker A: Cannon ass dirty sexually. Not dirty. Stanking funky. [00:27:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:10] Speaker A: Wash your ass. [00:27:11] Speaker C: Wash that. Okay. [00:27:12] Speaker B: Because, like, we often hear about girls getting raped, like the staz. Like one out of every three. [00:27:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:27:17] Speaker B: I know a lot of young niggas. I know a lot of homies that have the same YG story. Maybe not twice their age, but how many growing up? I know six dudes off the top of my head right now. [00:27:30] Speaker C: It almost happened to me. [00:27:31] Speaker B: 13, 14. The girl was like 19, 20. Yeah, that's how they. [00:27:36] Speaker C: Babysitter. [00:27:37] Speaker B: Yeah, babysitter. Babysitter. They have an older sister. The sister's older friend. The sister's friend, right? Like, YG was the niece, was the auntie of a. Of a young girl he was dating. Like, it's usually some shit like that. It's like a sister's friend or babysitter or, you know, Some. Some distant family member. Friend. [00:27:59] Speaker C: Yeah. My babysitter. And I'm probably was. I don't know. I definitely wasn't even a teenager. She used to let me dry hump her. [00:28:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:06] Speaker C: Yeah. And she was older than. I mean, she's a babysitter. [00:28:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:11] Speaker C: And, you know. [00:28:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:14] Speaker C: But I didn't. I didn't. Like, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't think I was, you know, I don't know. I turned out all right. [00:28:24] Speaker B: You think so? [00:28:25] Speaker A: One of you. One of you probably did. [00:28:27] Speaker C: I don't. I don't think that any. I don't think that had any effect on us. [00:28:30] Speaker A: Maybe she wasn't you. Maybe she was one of the other you. [00:28:34] Speaker C: I think if I'd. If I'd actually had to do the act or something, you know, I mean, or something actually transpired more than that. Maybe, you know. [00:28:40] Speaker B: I mean, you don't think the dry hump still played a role, like, on. Like how you looked at things sexually when it came to women as you got older? [00:28:50] Speaker C: No, not really. Because I don't. I don't. Maybe. But I don't think about it too often. But there is. I do know someone who was young, you know, probably pre teen, and they're older, you know, adult male in their life. Had a female in the house and, you know, had her get up in the bed with her ass with no clothes on. You know, I mean, like, yo. Get up in there with her. You know, I mean. And definitely, you know, I. I don't know if anything transpired, you know, whatever, but I know it definitely affected the way they viewed. [00:29:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:24] Speaker C: Women in the way that. That, that how they live their life accordingly. And they, I mean, they told me that, like, it's like I just, you know, this is the way I look at them. You know what I mean? And YG's kind of saying the same things, like, since then, like, I don't. I don't. I view women differently. You know, I mean, then I feel. [00:29:43] Speaker A: Like every time you talk now, I gotta ask, which Mac are you? [00:29:46] Speaker B: No, you can tell by the voice. [00:29:51] Speaker A: I feel like from now on, the new question is which Mac? [00:29:54] Speaker B: So that means Republican Mac is probably still in there. [00:29:56] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying this whole time. [00:29:58] Speaker C: It is not. See, you gotta stop that because there's no Mac that has an allegiance to any of the. Any gang. [00:30:04] Speaker A: Sure. [00:30:04] Speaker C: Now there is a conservative back. There is a conservative Mac. Right? Like, there is a definitely a Mac that leans conservative in a Lot of viewpoints and lazy things. But when you align that and put a name on it, almost like B was talking about God, it is just what it is. Like that is conservative is just what it is. Like those type of things. But then when you want to say, oh, that's Republican, then that's when I have to like, no, you like, that's where we have a problem. I don't. I. And the same thing with the, with the liberal, you know, or the Democratic, you know, I mean, like, I'm not a Democrat either. I don't that I understand that. I don't like neither one of them. Like, neither one of them are my homies. So to say that I'm one of the other is a problem for me. Now, granted. Do I have viewpoints that are conservative? Yes. Do I have some that are liberal? Yeah. I mean, in certain areas. Because I don't think just like in the bedroom, you gotta have gears. [00:31:00] Speaker A: Yeah, you do. [00:31:01] Speaker C: I mean, you can't just be. Oh, I mean, you. We talked about it in the last couple shows where you talk about. You got to have the ability to say I might be wrong. And I think that is where you can open up and say, okay, well. [00:31:14] Speaker B: You think him saying I might be wrong is the same thing as you having different personalities? [00:31:19] Speaker C: No, is the same. Like, like one time and one of y'all is wrong. In some things I might be conservative and then in some things I might be liberal. Like, or I could go and say, you know what, I, you know, I could be wrong about this. You know, I mean, and let me look at it from a different point of view. [00:31:34] Speaker A: Okay, so French, what are the girl. What are the female self. Safe spaces. [00:31:38] Speaker B: If a girl that's 14 gets raped by a 30 year old and she's goes to talk to somebody about it, she can get. [00:31:44] Speaker C: He's going to jail, she can get protection. [00:31:47] Speaker A: And you think that if a, If a man or a boy goes to. [00:31:50] Speaker B: Someone, unless if you go straight to the authorities. [00:31:53] Speaker A: Well, where would you go besides that? [00:31:55] Speaker C: Like an adult, I guess. Another adult? [00:31:57] Speaker B: Yeah, like another adult. I don't. If he goes until outside of. I think a dad would do the right thing, but let's say he goes to an older brother. I don't know if. [00:32:05] Speaker A: What would a dad do? [00:32:06] Speaker B: The dad would go to the authorities. So I think I'm assuming a decent. [00:32:10] Speaker C: Depends on whose dad it is. [00:32:11] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I'm assuming a decent dad would go to the. [00:32:14] Speaker A: If. [00:32:14] Speaker C: If it's J. Smooth's uncle and cousin, they might Tag team, that hoe. [00:32:17] Speaker A: Well, the problem is, though, is that that's the same thing that you do for a girl. So I think that the. The problem might not be the system, it's the people. Because if. If you wouldn't take your. Your daughter. I mean, if you take your daughter to the police, but you wouldn't take your son to the police, or vice versa, or if a man would go to the police, but a woman wouldn't go to the police, that's the same. It's just that guys have to actually do it. They have to be willing to say that it happened and go through the process. [00:32:47] Speaker C: Well. Right. It's almost like. [00:32:50] Speaker B: That's the thing, though. I don't. That's why I say, is there a safe. Safe space for guys? Because I don't think a guy will ever feel safe to even say it happened. [00:32:57] Speaker A: Right. [00:32:57] Speaker B: While a girl. [00:32:58] Speaker C: Or at least complain about it. Like. Right. Like. Like it's a. Like it's a problem. Like, you know, I mean, show that vulnerability. Like, hey, yo. [00:33:04] Speaker B: Because if you're a guy that happened to you go to the homies. The homies are going to be like, that's what's up, right? Especially if the homies are around the same age. If you're a girl, that happens to you and you go to your friends that are girls, they mean next time, nigga, they going to be like, oh, we got to go tell somebody. So from. From friends, the dudes don't already have help now, if. That's why I said if it's like an older brother. It depends how mature that older brother is, because the older brother might be like the homies too, right? Like, oh, shit, you. You starting early. That's what's up. [00:33:29] Speaker C: Toss that my way. [00:33:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:32] Speaker A: And. [00:33:32] Speaker B: And I don't even think as dudes just based on society, we even think it's a bad thing until we're way older. Until you like, probably 20 something, you'd be like, oh, shit, she really abused me. [00:33:43] Speaker A: You know, I wonder why percentage men go to prison and have that happen to, like, is. You know, I mean. I mean, I know that that's real, but I feel. I feel like it's embellished. I feel like it's like a. It's like a. It's like the boogeyman. Sometimes I think people use it and throw it around as if it's. It's more prevalent than it is. Not saying that it doesn't happen, but I. I don't know. [00:34:04] Speaker C: So. So I would say that I. I've heard that it's not. It is embellished, right. Because there is, I guess if there is a, A more of a Diddy type of thing going on, right. Where you're trying to dominate for some reason, right. Or you know, show a dominance over somebody that way. But the reality of it is, is there's so many punks, right. Like, there's so many gay guys like. [00:34:38] Speaker A: Rudy Too Fresh and right. [00:34:39] Speaker C: That are. That, that if you. You don't have to like fight nobody for it. Right. Like, I mean these will, you know. [00:34:46] Speaker A: They just trying it. They want it. They want it. [00:34:48] Speaker C: Right? So that, so that it's not something like, oh, I'm horny, I need to go find this dude and, and you're gonna give it to me because I, I just can't take it. I haven't had no. Or nothing in a while. That it. I don't think it happens like that. It's more like, like we finna show you that you're. [00:35:05] Speaker A: You got a big mouth, right. [00:35:06] Speaker C: Are you subservient? You're gonna be a like. And I'm already the ones that want to give it to me. So like you is not really an. [00:35:14] Speaker A: Extra level horror story. They show you like in movies. Like, remember what that master P1 was where the, the dude went in and he was just a regular. He was, he was with his homies, but he was kind of just a regular guy. He wasn't big or nothing. [00:35:24] Speaker C: Right. [00:35:24] Speaker A: They kind of got him off by himself. He got in the cell with the dude or whatever. They. They play that stereotype. [00:35:30] Speaker C: I mean, even Shaw Shank Redemption. I don't remember when they, when they were catching before he. When Andy Dufresne was and working in the laundry and the Aryan Nation dudes were him all the time for like, like the first year of his. [00:35:44] Speaker A: Him. [00:35:45] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:35:45] Speaker A: Oh, I don't remember. [00:35:46] Speaker C: Oh yeah, that's. I mean he went the first. When he first came to jail. That was his. [00:35:51] Speaker A: Yeah. So does that. That don't. Doesn't feel natural to me. That feels like that's embellished. [00:35:56] Speaker C: Yeah. Again, that. That was part of like they were trying to get him to be part of their Aryan, you know, crew or whatever. And he was like, nah. And they were like, well then until you do, you know, I mean, like this is what's going to happen to you type. [00:36:09] Speaker A: I must have compartmentalized that part of it. I don't remember that. [00:36:12] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. And then he had. I forget how he. What he ended up doing to get the up off of him. Oh, no, the guards. So, yeah, so then he did the taxes for the guards and put the guards on his side and the guards them up. And then after that, his. His life was a lot easier. But for that first couple years, he was fighting for his ass every time, you know, he was alone and. [00:36:36] Speaker A: Yeah, but. [00:36:37] Speaker C: And I think again, that's more like a gang type of, you know, dominating, like, join us or, you know, this will happen to you type. It's not about like, oh, I'm horny type of deal. Because if you're horny, go find one of these punks. Yeah, I mean, like. And, you know, I mean, you can have sweet love. [00:36:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know about sweet love. [00:37:00] Speaker C: But hey, I mean, I just mean, like, there, there'll be no resistance. [00:37:04] Speaker A: I don't think that's a gear. Sexual gay sex. [00:37:10] Speaker C: Like, I mean, you can get it tooted and booted. Like, you know, I mean, like, you don't have to. There won't be no fight. [00:37:17] Speaker A: I feel that. [00:37:18] Speaker C: So that's all I'm saying. But yeah, I mean, it's. My question is when you. First thing I felt when you first asked this question was, is there a safe space anywhere in this world? Like, I mean, like, is there any place that's really safe? I mean, isn't there. Isn't this like, anywhere you go, you can be like, fucked up. And I mean, I get what you're saying now as far as men admitting shit. Like, again, like, I remember used to saying, like, niggas need me. Right? Like, women have weaved, Right. But there ain't no me because it goes back to weave is just a hair thing. [00:37:57] Speaker B: So. [00:37:58] Speaker C: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Weave is a group. It's women escaping a violent environment. [00:38:02] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [00:38:05] Speaker C: Women escaping a violent environment. Right. [00:38:07] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:38:07] Speaker C: And. And that program. [00:38:09] Speaker B: I haven't heard of that program in a long time. [00:38:11] Speaker C: Yeah. And it's probably still out there. I don't know. I don't think the environment's gotten any less violence. [00:38:17] Speaker A: How up that. They would call it that. Yeah, like, it's so. It's so not reductive. No. What's the word I'm looking for? [00:38:25] Speaker C: It's just repetitive. [00:38:27] Speaker A: No, it's. It's negative. [00:38:28] Speaker C: Right. [00:38:28] Speaker A: Weave. And they're going to give it that to a girls group that's just up. [00:38:33] Speaker C: But I always said, like, there couldn't be a me. Right? Because again, I think much like what you're saying is that who's going to admit As a male. [00:38:42] Speaker A: Even if. [00:38:43] Speaker C: Even if that you're in it. That you're. That you're being abused by your. [00:38:46] Speaker B: Not only that, even if you do. Let's say you. You. You're in a. With a woman, and the woman is the one attacking you, and you call the police because you don't want to hit her. The police won't even take you seriously. [00:38:56] Speaker C: Sometimes it depends if you can show, you know, some battle scars. Yeah, right. Like nowadays. Because I. I just. I. I know somebody that just this recently happened and the female actually did get arrested. [00:39:07] Speaker B: Okay. [00:39:08] Speaker C: But there was. There was. First off, there was video, right? [00:39:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:12] Speaker C: And I think nowadays that's the thing. Like, so the reading camera on the house picked up the. Right. And they were able to show that. And then. Then there was also the. The physical, like the scratches and whatnot. But, you know. And I don't know if it's the same way out here, but I know in California, if you called for a domestic, somebody's going to jail. [00:39:32] Speaker A: That's here. [00:39:32] Speaker C: Okay. Somebody's going to jail that night. Like, it don't matter. Like, one of y'all is. We're not leaving without somebody coming with us. [00:39:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:41] Speaker C: And then not in a good way. Not like we're just gonna separate you and take you to a hotel. Like, you going to jail. Somebody's going to jail. [00:39:47] Speaker A: Or both. Yeah. [00:39:48] Speaker C: Right. Yeah. But I. I just don't think that. [00:39:52] Speaker A: What would it look like? What would a safe space look like for guys? [00:39:59] Speaker C: Christ. Circles or something. I don't. [00:40:01] Speaker A: Yeah, we don't even. We don't even know that's what I'm saying. So. [00:40:03] Speaker B: Because I don't think we even. Even allowed ourselves to even get to that level of vulnerability. [00:40:07] Speaker A: But it sounds like you think there should be. [00:40:09] Speaker B: I think there should be. [00:40:10] Speaker A: So how should it look? Because I don't know. [00:40:15] Speaker C: I'm gonna. I got a question after you say this, though, because you might need to ask. [00:40:19] Speaker A: I don't think he's gonna call me, so. [00:40:21] Speaker C: So. Because can you Can. Okay. Can there be a safe space and we also be the killers that we need to be? [00:40:33] Speaker B: I think if we. Oh, that we need to be. Yeah, I think that's possible. Because the thing is the safe space. [00:40:44] Speaker C: If you have multiple personalities. Right. [00:40:46] Speaker B: No, I think the safe space is when. The safe space is when you too overwhelmed as a killer where you can go and get the necessary help to balance all those emotions. So I think the safe space is to help the killer be in control of all his emotions. So he doesn't kill, kill, kill all the time. So I think we can be killers and have access to a safe space where we need to go and get help. Whether it's spiritual help, mental help, or just having a place you can go and express and just yell and do it. [00:41:21] Speaker A: So how does that look, French? Who provides that? Who is the person that you would trust to do that? [00:41:26] Speaker B: I feel like you would have to be a blend of what therapy is currently constructed as, but also where there's rehab centers. You know how we like smash rooms. Yeah. We will need. [00:41:38] Speaker A: What's that? [00:41:39] Speaker B: Places you go where you can. [00:41:40] Speaker C: You just break shit. [00:41:41] Speaker B: Break shit. [00:41:42] Speaker C: You just go in there and just tear shit up. [00:41:43] Speaker B: You're gonna need something like that. Avenues where even there's like a recreational center, like with sports and all those things, but have a therapy, have access to. [00:41:55] Speaker A: So off the. Off the top, this sounds really gay. [00:41:58] Speaker B: Gay or gay? [00:42:00] Speaker A: This is the problem you're gonna have to overcome to create this. This sounds really gay. [00:42:02] Speaker B: Talking about rec center. Smash room. [00:42:04] Speaker A: Rec center with just D. Smash room. [00:42:08] Speaker C: No, no, hold up. [00:42:08] Speaker A: No, no, you said a smash room. Yeah, yeah. [00:42:11] Speaker C: Smash. [00:42:12] Speaker B: That's like calling. [00:42:13] Speaker A: That's like calling that group. We. It's not right. [00:42:16] Speaker C: No, I do wanna. I do wanna modify Hulk Smash. Never been gay. [00:42:21] Speaker A: Yeah, but we gotta give another name though. [00:42:22] Speaker B: Rec room. [00:42:23] Speaker C: No. Okay. Wreck. Like it's in wreck and. [00:42:26] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:42:27] Speaker A: What is it called when you go into a house and you. And you knock down Demo. Call it like demo. The demo room or something. Like smash room is not the right. We're talking about dicks here. Everybody got a dick. [00:42:39] Speaker C: Hey, you want to go to the smash room? No, because the safety. Yeah, that's not invitation. You want to take. [00:42:45] Speaker B: Thank you. Yeah, because the safe space I think is really needed. Because even if you look at. [00:42:49] Speaker C: Where's B. Jimmy Mac? They in the smash room. [00:42:52] Speaker B: Nope, that's a pause right after. [00:42:54] Speaker A: You know we're not. [00:42:58] Speaker B: Because if you look at suicide rate, women attempt more than us. But we're actually the ones that are like succeeding at a higher clip. So when we decide to kill ourselves, we really do it. Women just be bullshitting by trying a little bit. [00:43:10] Speaker C: I just need to. No, I'm sorry, I'm not gonna do it. [00:43:13] Speaker A: You're about to say something dark. [00:43:14] Speaker C: No, just like, you know, it was a tension thing, you know, But I don't know if that's necessarily. [00:43:18] Speaker A: Well, you already said it now. You shouldn't like. Nah, never mind. You just wanted to say it. So get it. Get it out of your system. They're just. They're killing themselves to get attention. [00:43:25] Speaker C: They're not. But they're not, according to French registered. [00:43:28] Speaker B: They've actually succeeded. [00:43:29] Speaker A: When you try to commit and you don't actually do it, that's just for attention. If you want to commit suicide, you're gonna do it. [00:43:34] Speaker C: Do it. Do it right. Yeah, that's a. That's Kurt Cobain. Like, I mean, like, there's a. And I'm not. I'm not just using him as an example, but I've often said that is like, I. If you want to do it, you do it. Like, I mean, all of this, like, let me slit my wrist and lie in the bathtub type. Nah, you know, I mean, like, that's slow, too, right? Yeah, like, that's not. I mean, sure, it might be that guy. [00:43:56] Speaker A: Or was it South Carolina, maybe? Death penalty. The recent death penalty. The guy that decided they had a lot of trouble with the lethal injections, so he did. Firing squad, huh? You hear about that? That was this year? [00:44:10] Speaker C: No. [00:44:11] Speaker A: South Carolina or something. [00:44:12] Speaker C: So wait a minute. [00:44:13] Speaker A: You heard me. I see the look in your face. Yes, you heard me. [00:44:17] Speaker C: So old school. No, but. But I need to get back to the. The how we got to the firing squad. [00:44:22] Speaker A: There were some issues with the. The lethal injections. They weren't killing, and so they were having a lot of complications, like three or four times, and it took the people out. [00:44:34] Speaker C: No, you listen. If you try and it don't work, I get to go home. [00:44:38] Speaker A: Hey, right. [00:44:40] Speaker C: Listen, listen, bro. [00:44:41] Speaker A: God didn't want. [00:44:42] Speaker C: God is trying to tell y'all something, man. Like, I'm not. It ain't me. [00:44:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:46] Speaker C: Like, I didn't do it. Like, how many. How many tries do you get? [00:44:48] Speaker A: I don't know, but I think it was either three or five rifles and they stood a up. [00:44:54] Speaker C: No, I would shot him. [00:44:56] Speaker A: And I don't. [00:44:56] Speaker C: I. To be honest. And I guess that we are just. I. I feel like that's probably the most humane way to do it. [00:45:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:07] Speaker A: All this other, like, injection is very. You don't feel it? I don't think. I think you just go to sleep. [00:45:14] Speaker C: You think? Right. See, that's where we. That's our point. Thing is, like, you feel a bullet. [00:45:17] Speaker A: My. [00:45:18] Speaker C: Do you. [00:45:19] Speaker A: You got shot in the hand. How'd it feel? [00:45:20] Speaker C: But that was a BB gun, right? [00:45:22] Speaker A: Imagine that times. [00:45:23] Speaker C: No, you take a bullet to the head, it's over. [00:45:26] Speaker A: I don't know that well. [00:45:27] Speaker B: You probably feel it, though. [00:45:28] Speaker C: It's over bullets. But I mean, listen, no, like, I guarantee when they shot that it wasn't seconds later that I don't think you. A bullet, you feel, man, like it's an instantaneous death. [00:45:44] Speaker A: In some places you feel a bullet in your shoulder. [00:45:46] Speaker C: Yeah, but so again, I need better aim. [00:45:49] Speaker A: 50 cent. 50 cent got shot in the face, didn't he? [00:45:52] Speaker B: Yeah, like in his dry area. [00:45:55] Speaker A: He felt. [00:45:55] Speaker B: That's why you talk. [00:45:56] Speaker C: Oh, I, I, I know a guy who was locked up with a dude who shot himself in the face and didn't die. [00:46:02] Speaker A: Yeah. So, I mean, it's still possible and. [00:46:04] Speaker C: It seems so I just need him. I need a marksman then. I need, I need somebody that got aim. I don't need no motherfucking Republican little 20 year old on the roof. I don't need that. What's his name? [00:46:19] Speaker A: Your time of death, right. Do you want a split second to think, reflect, go over things, or you want it just to be so insane you don't have time to know you're about to die. [00:46:29] Speaker B: For me? [00:46:30] Speaker A: Well, like, you don't even get a chance to say thank you or goodbye. Well, like, imagine if you and I were seeing each other for the last time tonight, right? [00:46:35] Speaker C: Right. [00:46:36] Speaker A: Would you rather we get to say goodbye or would you rather we don't know or we're not going to see each other again? [00:46:40] Speaker C: I would rather say goodbye. And we're not. [00:46:42] Speaker A: So then you need that second, right? You don't want it to be abrupt. You want it to have, you want to have a few minutes of. Well, this was my thing. This is, this was it, guys. [00:46:50] Speaker C: I mean, they'll let you talk. [00:46:51] Speaker A: People inside your head, you're like, this is it, guys. [00:46:53] Speaker C: But they'll let you talk. I mean, they don't. [00:46:55] Speaker A: Like, we ain't dying. [00:46:56] Speaker C: You died. They'll let you talk before they, they blast on you. [00:46:59] Speaker A: But the problem is it's not quite the same though, because it's not. Had it, it's not real yet. [00:47:04] Speaker C: When you're on death row, you know that though, right? Like that whole time, like 20 years. No, no, I'm just saying, like you've been on the row, right? Like, and they're like, okay, hey, today's your day, you know, firing squad, noon. [00:47:17] Speaker A: Yeah, but I just don't think it's real yet. I don't think it's real until you get that last meal and you're walking and it's like, whoa. [00:47:24] Speaker C: Yeah, no, for sure, I agree. Like when they, when they hit you with that dead man Walking. [00:47:28] Speaker A: And while it's. While you're walking, it's too much going on. I don't think you have time to. [00:47:31] Speaker C: Even really fully process it. [00:47:33] Speaker A: And then this. The idea of accepting that it's happening so now you have a second to be thankful or whatever. I mean, I don't even know. Some people probably wouldn't even be thankful for their life. There are people who are ready to go, right? [00:47:44] Speaker C: They're like, this. This place. [00:47:46] Speaker A: I wonder if I'd want a second or not. [00:47:47] Speaker C: Check out time. [00:47:48] Speaker A: Because what I plan for. What I plan for is in my death. I'm gonna be ready. Not necessarily ready to die, but accepting and still appreciative for all the days that were great and all the times and the things that I had that were wonderful. I'm. I'm looking forward. I'm hoping that that's what the end will be for me, no matter how bad it is. Just the opportunity to be thankful for. [00:48:09] Speaker C: Well, I mean, God willing, right. That you get that opportunity. Because who knows, right? [00:48:19] Speaker A: Like. [00:48:23] Speaker C: Glass could fall out of a building, whatever, and slice you in two, and you never see it coming. Right. Like. [00:48:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:30] Speaker C: And. And. And so you. You just don't know if how this is going to end. [00:48:34] Speaker B: So you got to be in that moment every day, pretty much. You got to have that thankful energy. [00:48:39] Speaker C: There it is. French. Every day, there it is. [00:48:41] Speaker A: Because you stay ready. You got to get ready. [00:48:43] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:48:43] Speaker A: Because that's kind of what I've been talking about, though. So it's on. It's on. It's on. Brand. So you would all. You would rather go instantly and not have a chance to. [00:48:51] Speaker C: No. Yeah. [00:48:52] Speaker A: And sweat it or whatever. [00:48:53] Speaker C: I know. Instantly. Yeah. I don't. I don't want to. I think because you talk about the lethal injection, all of that is the worst, Right? Like when they're strapping it. Yeah. Strapping you down. [00:49:01] Speaker B: And. [00:49:02] Speaker C: And then the problem with that, too, from what I've seen. This is a audience. Yeah. [00:49:07] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Well, there's an audience. [00:49:09] Speaker C: I mean, well, listen, listen. I'm blindfolded, right? Like, I mean, I don't know that. Okay. Well, I would want to be. [00:49:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:16] Speaker C: I don't want to see the bullets coming. Right. [00:49:18] Speaker A: I don't want them get blindfolded. They did, didn't they? [00:49:21] Speaker C: I don't know. [00:49:22] Speaker B: When they hung him. [00:49:24] Speaker A: I'm trying to think of all the public. [00:49:25] Speaker B: His face. Yeah, we saw his face. [00:49:27] Speaker A: Huh. [00:49:28] Speaker B: But he was, like, blind, I think, when they were walking him to wherever they were going to do it. He, I don't know if he was buying for it or anything. [00:49:34] Speaker A: Is that like, just so he couldn't get back there? If he tried to get it on his own, like, yo, ghosts won't know how to get back to us. [00:49:40] Speaker C: Oh, speaking of that type of. I, I, I, I accidentally waterboarded myself. [00:49:48] Speaker B: How you actually do that? [00:49:49] Speaker C: How so I was in the shower and I was washing my face, and I had the rag over my face and the water hit, and then I tried to take a breath in, and it was crazy like that. And I was like, holy. That's what that feels. That's what that, that's what's happening. [00:50:07] Speaker B: You snitch right away, right? [00:50:08] Speaker A: Pretty terrible. [00:50:09] Speaker C: That's what's happening on the other side of that. [00:50:11] Speaker B: Like, you snitch it right away, right, bro? [00:50:12] Speaker A: Like, because you're trying to breathe in air, but the air is water. [00:50:16] Speaker C: Yeah, that was, that was a weird sensation. And I was like, I was like, oh, that would like it. It's almost like you're, your lungs are gonna implode too, because you don't get to, you never get the air. [00:50:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:29] Speaker C: You don't get the pull, you know, it's almost like it's stopping air from coming in. It's just, it was weird sensation. And I tried it a couple times because I was like a practice. [00:50:40] Speaker A: No, no, there's no practice for that. [00:50:43] Speaker C: I was like, I was like, that, that was weird. And it just made me think of Safe House with Denzel when they were doing. He's like, you need 6,000 thread count, bro. Like, I'm telling you, like, the thread counts you got. Ain't it like, like, that's not gonna work, bro. Like, on me. Like, I'm telling you right now, like. And that spit up all that water. And he's like, listen, you need 6,000 thread count. And I was like, this. Now that I've felt that. That's a hard scene. Like, that Denzel was. I know, but he was a. [00:51:16] Speaker A: Twice. I think I still remember that part. [00:51:19] Speaker C: The first one, they, when they got. When they snatched his ass or when he turned himself. [00:51:23] Speaker A: He just watched it recently. [00:51:24] Speaker C: I did not. [00:51:25] Speaker A: That's weird, bro. [00:51:26] Speaker C: I did not. [00:51:26] Speaker A: You need some, some real life stuff to, to jump in those holes that you have filled, bro. [00:51:32] Speaker C: So what was I watching? [00:51:33] Speaker A: Let some real life in, man. [00:51:34] Speaker C: No, what was I just watching? Oh, no. [00:51:37] Speaker A: Care Bear movie. [00:51:38] Speaker C: No, it's, it's, it's another. So it's not. No, it's. It's called Sakamoto Days. Right. It's an anime. Yeah, it's an anime. But in the anime, they were. They were trying to figure out, like, some information and they took. He took them to the video rental store and he's like, this is where, you know, information be. Like, they put the information in these movies. Like. And I'm like, I told everybody this. [00:52:04] Speaker A: You know what I heard? That whole thing is. All I heard was. [00:52:06] Speaker C: I don't get. [00:52:06] Speaker B: I don't get. [00:52:07] Speaker A: That's all I heard you say. [00:52:08] Speaker C: That's. [00:52:09] Speaker A: That's. I don't even hear anything else. What else you said? I don't get pushy. That's all I heard. [00:52:15] Speaker C: That's whatever, man. So, Fred, to just kind of maybe put a bow in this, man. I don't. I don't. I don't think it's gonna happen, man. I think that we've been programmed to be a certain way. [00:52:29] Speaker A: We. [00:52:29] Speaker B: We always say that, but we act like we cannot change the program. Like, it's not like, once we're programmed that certain way, it's permanent. It's a program. We can literally rewrite it. [00:52:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:39] Speaker C: Not everything can be rewritten. No, no. I mean, like, everything is programmed. I'm just saying that you just assume that anything programmed can be reprogrammed, and that's not necessarily always the truth. [00:52:50] Speaker B: Such as what? Besides, like, urges, like, program once. [00:52:53] Speaker C: Like a DVD that's not rewritable. Like, whatever you put on that in the first place, the human body is. [00:53:01] Speaker B: So much better than a dvd. Like, we can. [00:53:05] Speaker C: Don't act like, you know what this. Like, what's all in this thing, bro? Like, this, like, this supercomputer is like. Sure, but you don't know the real. Like, you don't got an owner's manual for this bitch. You don't know. Assuming that it. [00:53:19] Speaker B: I think outside of, like, the natural things like hunger and sleep and anything else could be reprogrammed. [00:53:26] Speaker C: Okay. Yeah, but I think. But what's it gonna take, right? Like, I don't know if it's a. Is it gonna take a mass reprogramming? Right? Like, is it going to take everybody else also being reprogrammed, Your environment around you changing so that it can you. It'll take to see it. [00:53:44] Speaker B: Yes. [00:53:45] Speaker C: Or. Or yeah. [00:53:46] Speaker B: Seeing a social scale. Yes. Because every individual can start at any moment in their life and reprogram everything they were thought. [00:53:54] Speaker C: Right. But if. But if your environment is like, you know, it's like back in the day, you. You had a game that didn't Work on Macintosh. So yeah, you got this new program, but it don't run on this operating system, the operating system that's already currently here. [00:54:11] Speaker B: So are you saying the person's environment can stop them from reprogramming? [00:54:15] Speaker C: Yeah, definitely. How do you get to. [00:54:18] Speaker B: Right, like what I'm saying is from, as an individual, I can agree with you. From the societal aspect. For everybody, the environment matters because that's what's going to get everybody to reprogram. But every individual, even if they're in the hood or Beverly Hills, if they decide themselves like, yo, what I'm doing, where I'm headed, what I've been taught don't align with me. [00:54:40] Speaker A: Why is taught so hard at night. [00:54:42] Speaker C: So this is the Taurus. [00:54:44] Speaker B: They can, they can do the work necessary to reprogram. [00:54:47] Speaker C: But this is the problem. [00:54:48] Speaker B: The individual, even if they're still in the fucked up environment. [00:54:51] Speaker C: But this is the problem as I see it, right? Then you're like, okay, so I'm redesigning. I'm going to label this over here safe space. Now this is where I'm going to make this my safe space. And this is where you go. And it ain't safe space, my nigga, because ain't nothing changed. Like you, the, the, the, the, the program over here is still the same program nigga. And it's not safe space over here. So you bring that. I think I'm coming over here with safe space shit. And this is gonna be my safe space. And everybody over here is like, nigga, go get that pussy. Are you seriously about to tell me that that fine ass woman is fucking you good and you got a problem with that? My like, stop. [00:55:28] Speaker B: So I think you're saying two different things. For the reprogramming part itself, I think it's always going to be on an internal and individual level. You probably have to isolate yourself as you reprogram. [00:55:40] Speaker C: But then, okay, so for, how long do. When do you get. You're gonna need to run on something, right? So you come out and you can't just, just I. So then if you're saying the safe space or the reprogramming is just. [00:55:52] Speaker B: Because I'm not saying space is reprogramming. No, I'm saying safe space is somewhere people can go and get help and, and guidance and whatever needed. [00:56:00] Speaker C: What I was saying is that there is no safe space, right? Because of the way that we've already been programmed. Right? So that's where I'm putting the two together. [00:56:08] Speaker B: Okay? [00:56:08] Speaker C: And so I'm saying that if you're taking. You're like. You go in and you reprogram yourself in isolation, and you're like, hey, this is where I'm at. [00:56:16] Speaker B: So you might be the guy to open up the first safe space. [00:56:20] Speaker C: I guess. But my point is that. [00:56:23] Speaker A: Which Mac am I talking to? That's what I need to ask before when I walk in the safe. Like, okay, this is the safe space. [00:56:27] Speaker B: So, yeah. [00:56:28] Speaker A: Which Mac runs through. [00:56:29] Speaker B: So if you. If you're the guy that did the internal work to reprogram yourself, you might be the first guy in your environment to build that safe space. So you can possibly help the. The second individual that decided to reprogram themselves. Okay, you know, this is what Biggie said. You can't change the world until you change yourself. Biggie? [00:56:49] Speaker A: Biggie said that? [00:56:49] Speaker B: I don't know, but that's the first time I heard it. First time I ever heard it was from Biggie. [00:56:53] Speaker A: Really? [00:56:53] Speaker C: You never heard Men in the Mirror? [00:56:55] Speaker B: I just. My memory of that sentence came. Is Biggie. [00:57:00] Speaker A: So we about to get out here now, but you know, there is something I'm trying to reprogram myself on. [00:57:04] Speaker C: What's that? [00:57:05] Speaker A: Pain. I think. [00:57:07] Speaker B: I think pain tolerance. [00:57:08] Speaker A: Huh? [00:57:09] Speaker B: You trying to get. Of course you can. [00:57:10] Speaker A: No, but I think. [00:57:11] Speaker B: Don't military teach you that? [00:57:12] Speaker A: Nah, come on, man. That's not normal military. I don't think so. Today I stubbed my toe. You know, I hate stuff that's like pregnancy. That's like having a baby. Forgot guys. That's like the guy equivalent, the worst. But I laid down and I tried to imagine that it was pleasure, bro. [00:57:30] Speaker C: I remember we talked. [00:57:31] Speaker A: I know you're a weirdo and I totally remembered it. You're still a weirdo. But hold up. [00:57:37] Speaker B: So you hit your toe and you said, let me lay down. Well, I think it's fun. [00:57:40] Speaker A: Well, no, not fun. Not fun exactly, but it was. It was different. It wasn't pain anymore. It was something else. [00:57:46] Speaker B: So you didn't still do the initial reaction? [00:57:48] Speaker C: Bro, I got two words for a. [00:57:50] Speaker A: Half second, but then I was like, you know what? I'm gonna lean in. Because at this point now it's already stubbed. I can't unstubbed it. [00:57:56] Speaker C: Right. [00:57:57] Speaker A: So what other. What other feelings do I have other than pain right now? And I just leaned into all the other ones, mind over matter, whatever they were. And it was. Some of it. It felt like the pain flattened, which is very weird. It didn't feel like at first it was very acute. It was in my smallest toe I thought I broke something. But then when I just started paying attention to the other stuff, I felt the pain smush and kind of spread out my whole foot. And that's better than just one little toe because the toe is. Is small, but the foot wide is. Is a lot more surface contact area. So then it felt the pulsing wasn't necessarily, like, throbbing. It was more like waves. [00:58:33] Speaker C: Right. [00:58:34] Speaker A: Like the ocean. And it was. And it wasn't pleasurable, but it wasn't pain. [00:58:38] Speaker C: Right. [00:58:39] Speaker A: So that's very weird that there's. You can probably. I can probably get further than that. That was the second time I tried. I came from the other time I tried. I think I might have brought it up on the show, though. There was another time where I felt like I was trying to lean into it and, And. And gain something from it other than pain. [00:58:52] Speaker C: I got two words for you. Nipple clamps. [00:58:55] Speaker A: Nah. [00:58:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:57] Speaker A: Listeners, we appreciate you guys too. Once you get to no Nonsense show, make sure you go to the website redsonics.com you check out all the shows on the network. Hey, look, keep supporting us, keep interacting with us, and we'll keep bringing the nonsense because we. You realize that sometimes people just need to laugh. Till next time. [00:59:12] Speaker C: 10% less bullshit than any other podcast guarantee. [00:59:33] Speaker A: SA.