Mac, the Empath

[00:00:00] Speaker A: The views and opinions expressed by the no nonsense show and its host do not necessarily reflect views consistent with political correctness or the Rare Sonnets podcast network. So to get the show started right, we want to wish any officers of the sensitivity police a heartfelt fuck you. [00:00:13] Speaker B: Let me ask you a question. When you see a chick with a black eye, what's the first thing that comes to your mind. [00:00:21] Speaker A: Man? I was to say something funny, but it's not funny. So I think that she's in an abusive relationship. That would be my first guess. Yeah, same here. [00:00:29] Speaker B: And I think that's fucked up, right? Because again, the assumption that that's it. Yeah. So I've seen a couple of chicks in the last couple of days with black eyes. [00:00:39] Speaker A: What is about you that's attracting these black eyebases? [00:00:58] Speaker B: You are listening to the no nonsense show. 10% less bullshit than any other podcast, guaranteed. Listen, I'm not. Look, we're not dating. Like, I don't know, none of them. I just. [00:01:11] Speaker A: By dating, is that mean you could be having sex, but you all aren't calling it something? [00:01:15] Speaker B: I don't know if I could have sex with a chick with a black eye. Unless she's an MMA fighter, right? [00:01:20] Speaker A: What's the black eye going to do? Stop you from getting. What if she's bad? Bad? [00:01:24] Speaker B: No. So again, why you got a black eye? [00:01:27] Speaker A: Who cares? She bad. Bad. [00:01:28] Speaker B: No. [00:01:32] Speaker A: She want to give you some head, babe. That black eye you got the other day. [00:01:35] Speaker B: So again, you abusers, right? You guys are okay with this shit? I feel self conscious. Stop it. [00:01:44] Speaker A: You're an empath. [00:01:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I am. I think I have a little bit of that in me. [00:01:48] Speaker A: If she can smile and joke or whatever, like pregame show. If she can tell jokes and be funny, I'm like, that eye is good. Yeah, just don't touch. It's probably tender. [00:01:57] Speaker B: I agree with you because that's the same thing I thought, right? It was like, oh, God damn her, man. Beat her ass. [00:02:02] Speaker A: Right, right. [00:02:03] Speaker B: But I'm thinking maybe she's a scrapper, though. Maybe she fought another bitch that got hands. [00:02:08] Speaker A: Right. It's my guilty pleasure is girl fights. Oh, yeah, you like that, too? [00:02:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:15] Speaker A: What is it about that? It's Carnal, right? They tend to get naked. It's not a sexual thing. Yeah, but it's definitely stimulating. It's the same feeling that I feel when I'm stimulated sexually. But it's another thing. I don't know what it is. Does that make sense? [00:02:31] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I get it. [00:02:32] Speaker A: It's something carnal. It's below my area of acknowledgment. [00:02:37] Speaker B: No, I ain't going to lie. Growing up, if there was an opportunity to catch a girlfight, I was there. [00:02:41] Speaker A: I'll seek them on the Internet. Like, I'll go to Twitter. I'll go to Twitter and put in hashtag girlfight or something. I can't help it. There's something about it stimulates me. [00:02:49] Speaker B: I don't know what it know. [00:02:53] Speaker A: That's not the same for guy fights. [00:02:55] Speaker B: No. Because I think maybe. You know what I think it is? It's almost like that thing where you take a picture, right, in a wedding dress in a dump, right? Or the scenery. You're in an alley, right? It doesn't match. Right. This doesn't fit the scenery, right. This elegance or whatever isn't supposed to be here. And it kind of the same thing with chicks like this. Raw, rugged savagery is not supposed to be part of their dna. Right. They're soft and supple and they're to be protected. But you look at some of these bitches and you're like, she don't need no protection at all. She might got my back if it go down. She coming off the bleachers for me. I'm not worried about her in a scrap because she gets it in. [00:03:49] Speaker A: Right. I think it's more like why we enjoy orange is the new black or why we did. I haven't watched it. I didn't even finish it. But I never even started it. Four seasons, maybe three seasons. Damn. I never even started three seasons, maybe. I don't know how many there are. But girl prison is not like guy prison. [00:04:03] Speaker B: No. That sex is much more enjoyable to watch. Okay. [00:04:10] Speaker A: I'm talking about it's not as dangerous. Right. So it's almost like I get a chance to watch a fight that I know is not dangerous enough for somebody to die. [00:04:17] Speaker B: Right. [00:04:17] Speaker A: You know what I mean? So it's like it's got bumpers, it's got guardrails. [00:04:21] Speaker B: It's not going to be Kimbo slight like she's not going to have an eyeball hanging out of socket after. [00:04:25] Speaker A: You might see a titty, right. There might be some scratches on some. Maybe a weave gets pulled out. [00:04:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:30] Speaker A: But that's the extent of anybody getting kicked ten times and their jaw comes off. Even if a girl does stomp another girl. [00:04:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:38] Speaker A: Her body is more durable compared to her body is able more to take that from a girl than if it was a guy stomping her hand. Right. Or if it was a guy stomping another guy. [00:04:48] Speaker B: Right. Or the blows. Right. Are not as right. So when you see a good blow. [00:04:53] Speaker A: You'Re like, oh, it drives him. It stimulates me even more. Right. But that's weird. Is that weird? [00:04:58] Speaker B: Nope. [00:04:59] Speaker A: So you're agreeing with me? We're both. Either both. We're weird together or it's not weird. [00:05:03] Speaker B: I don't think it's weird. [00:05:04] Speaker A: Let's ask Fritz. I don't think it's weird because I'll be watching ghost fight on Twitter and everything. Wow. So we're all weirdos? [00:05:12] Speaker B: No, I don't think it's weird again. I think, like you said, it's guardrails. Right. There's a level of, like, I don't like guy fights sometimes. Right. Yeah. [00:05:23] Speaker A: And they don't know when to stop. [00:05:24] Speaker B: No. Right. There's some blows that you look like that nigga might not be ever right again. [00:05:30] Speaker A: He's going to prison. That's like that nigga right there is going to prison. Right. [00:05:32] Speaker B: Well, the nigga that just got crushed. [00:05:35] Speaker A: Right. [00:05:35] Speaker B: You're like, God damn. He might not ever wake up. And if he does, he might not ever write. He might not ever be the same. [00:05:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:41] Speaker B: And so I don't like that definitive aspect of some of the dude fights, like, how that can end. And I think, like you said, with the girls, there is a level of guardrails. It's like, hey, you know what? Yeah. Even if you get cold cock fucked. [00:05:57] Speaker A: Up, you're getting up, you're going to get to work. You know what I'm saying? [00:06:01] Speaker B: Man? Listen, you want, like, 75% of that in the bedroom. Like, you want them all fucking to choke you out and slap you and do all that kind of crazy shit. It's like, when I was growing up, my older brother and his friends, they used to fuck me up and try to cave my chest in and hit me hardest. Fucking shit. [00:06:25] Speaker A: Right, right. [00:06:25] Speaker B: So when I got into a fight with someone my size or my age, I was like, I get punched harder than that at home for fun. [00:06:35] Speaker A: Right. [00:06:36] Speaker B: So that's not that bad. I think you're right. [00:06:40] Speaker A: Okay, so I'm good then. I thought I was a weirdo. I had never revealed that to anybody. So you guys were first. [00:06:45] Speaker B: I thought that again. I thought it was maybe me just being a little french reggie ish. [00:06:51] Speaker A: About seeing the black eyes. Yeah. [00:06:52] Speaker B: To assume that it was from the dude. Right. Like, to assume that you get beat at home. Right. This is me just thinking that all women have it bad, and there's their abusive guys that make them. [00:07:03] Speaker A: That's not your fault, man. [00:07:04] Speaker B: That make them. [00:07:05] Speaker A: We've been painted this picture. [00:07:06] Speaker B: Make them give their phone numbers out and shit. She gave them phone number to the right number to the wrong nigga, and this is what she gets. Right? [00:07:14] Speaker A: Right. [00:07:15] Speaker B: But then I was like, you know what? She could have squabbed with her neighbor, her sister, her aunt. A black eye doesn't necessarily mean she. [00:07:22] Speaker A: Could have tripped and hit the wall. [00:07:23] Speaker B: Right? [00:07:26] Speaker A: I know what they say. I fail and hit the wall. I'm clumsy. [00:07:30] Speaker B: I'm just saying, when I've made that assumption, it's the second time that I caught myself going, wait a minute. [00:07:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:40] Speaker B: The frequency in which I saw it made me believe that. Wait a minute. Am I just coming across abused women now all of a sudden? Or maybe is there other reasons why a black eye on a chick is a black eye? You know what I mean? It just made me think of that on the way over here. I was like, am I the only one that thinks that all the time, or is there some people that just go, well, maybe, like you said, maybe she does. Maybe she does box in her spare time, right? Like, she's a boxer, that whatever. And boxers get black eyes. [00:08:12] Speaker A: Maybe our kid. [00:08:13] Speaker B: Inspiring, right? [00:08:13] Speaker A: Maybe babies hit her with the iPhone. [00:08:15] Speaker B: No, hit it with the headbutt. Like, you hold a little baby and it backed his head up into you or some shit. You know what I mean? There's so many different reasons why anybody could have a black eye other than it being caused by a man. And so I just wanted to bring that up. I don't know why. [00:08:33] Speaker A: Do we need to talk about what happened last week? [00:08:36] Speaker B: Sure. I think so. [00:08:38] Speaker A: There was, like, a synergy or something in here. [00:08:40] Speaker B: Oh, for sure. They sold tide. [00:08:43] Speaker A: Did you notice? [00:08:43] Speaker B: They sold tied? I almost wanted to switch chairs, like, look, if you all want to get over here, you all want a soul bond? [00:08:54] Speaker A: I 100% agree with French Reddit. I heard that so many times. [00:08:57] Speaker B: Yeah. I was like, are you from. Where are you from? All these foreign opinions. [00:09:07] Speaker A: He's a traveled man, and he broke the mold on all of it. Right? He's about our age. [00:09:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:13] Speaker A: And he's also from America, but he's well traveled. Sympathize with French on almost every topic. [00:09:19] Speaker B: Every topic. [00:09:20] Speaker A: Damn near shout out to Rio. [00:09:22] Speaker B: Yeah, it's funny. Hopefully he'll come back on because there were some. Definitely some things that topics we wanted to talk about that. [00:09:29] Speaker A: Yeah, we didn't get to. [00:09:30] Speaker B: We didn't get to. Especially as him personally? Yeah. [00:09:35] Speaker A: What does that mean? Does that mean that our show had so much shit in it, so much meat in it, that we didn't get a chance or we just got sidetracked? [00:09:41] Speaker B: No, I just think it's both. [00:09:43] Speaker A: Sidetracked. I think it's both. [00:09:47] Speaker B: I think it's both, scatterbrain. I think it's both. I think that's part of the beauty of the show, is that things that get us going, if they go, then they go. You know what I mean? And if we come back to something else, then great. But if not, then we just keep going. But, yeah, I think that there was a level of something so fridgy. I know you like to rate guys. Would you say that him or odub or your favorite. Who would you prefer if you had to stretch one of them? [00:10:27] Speaker A: I'm not going to answer that. [00:10:32] Speaker B: It's pregame workout. It's like that scenario they tell you with the kids in the house. Like, you got two kids in the house is burning. You got to pick one. It's pregame. You only got 5 minutes before tip off. You got to stretch one of them. [00:10:46] Speaker A: I would stretch Rio because he seems like he's in better shape. [00:10:49] Speaker B: Okay. You haven't seen Odub in a while. You forgot because I remember. [00:10:54] Speaker A: I know Odub is bigger, but when I say bigger, not necessarily fat, but he's probably got more muscle. Upscale, but he seems like he's in better shape overall. So he may not need a deep. [00:11:07] Speaker B: Rio, you're saying? [00:11:08] Speaker A: Yeah, Rio may not need a deep stretch or even if I don't stretch him all the way? Even if I don't stretch him all the way. What are we stretching? Muscle. [00:11:16] Speaker B: What are we of? [00:11:19] Speaker A: Deep. [00:11:19] Speaker B: I've heard of deep tissue massages. Didn't know about the deep stretch. Again. And it's funny, because they started to talk that Rio started to talk that pt talk to him. And I just understand. It's like, Reggie, when you come over to America, as a foreigner, you don't speak anything but you're Spanish. But by the time you're a teenager, you don't know what the fuck motherfuckers are saying in Spanish no more. You're like, God damn it, I've been here too long. I don't understand that. So I didn't know what a gluteus maximus was three weeks ago, or minimus. No, him Friday didn't. What conversation you said, I asked you about. [00:11:54] Speaker A: Right? [00:11:55] Speaker B: Yes, I asked you about the gluteus. You're like, I don't know what that is. I'm like, you don't know what a gluteus. Now, he might. Because, again, no, he was trying to hedge his bets because he thought we were leading him down that gay road. [00:12:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I thought when you were saying that you was trying to figure some gay shit, but. All right, but if I had to answer your question, it would probably be Rio. [00:12:15] Speaker B: Okay, bet. [00:12:17] Speaker A: Gotcha. Let me ask y'all. Hold on. [00:12:19] Speaker B: So, ow is what, eight again? Gotta be at least because he said he was a seven. And French reggie is like, no, budy, don't underestimate. Not. Let's not do this. This is self deprecating shit that you're doing. [00:12:32] Speaker A: What are we talking about? What are we doing here? You're way better than. And when I was telling Oda that, it's not because I think he's an age, just more. You should always have confidence. [00:12:39] Speaker B: It was more of a. You can't be confident in seven. [00:12:42] Speaker A: No, but why? What was the need to have confidence? Did he seem like he was a person that lacked confidence? No. [00:12:48] Speaker B: That's funny. [00:12:49] Speaker A: Right there. Right there. That's exactly why I told him that. Because when he was making that statement, I was like, this is out of character of you. Oh, God. You got to save him from him. [00:12:59] Speaker B: So hold up real quick. Yeah. These kids. Oh, my goodness. I know you said that, the chick in from the last of us, but I think that was a whole commercial with special kids in it. [00:13:13] Speaker A: Okay. [00:13:14] Speaker B: And I don't know if that's what you. I just wanted to point out so you could see or if you thought. [00:13:19] Speaker A: I didn't see it. Yeah. [00:13:20] Speaker B: If you knew what a real special kid looked like. [00:13:22] Speaker A: I know what special kids look like. [00:13:23] Speaker B: Okay. All right, I'm special. [00:13:26] Speaker A: Let me ask you something. I've been watching a series of different commercials from when you're watching something on YouTube or on tv, and it seems like all the commercials now are especially on the ones on tv. That's. The ones that really caught my eye, are, like, designing the commercial for, like, if you were in the Internet. So you're seeing a commercial, but it's a text thread. You're seeing a commercial. It's emojis. It's not like real life environments anymore. It's like bringing the Internet into the commercial. Even in the language, you're not speaking regular English. They saying lol or drip. I saw an at t commercial, and the whole thing was about drip. And I'm like, why is the Internet coming into real life, even in work now, it's like you can create fake profiles of avatars. And all I'm saying is, do you feel like the Internet as a whole is now dumbing us down? And what I mean by dumbing us down, it's like, purposely. [00:14:24] Speaker B: No, I'm sorry. That face I made for it was. Now, it wasn't because I think that your thoughts are off, or I'm kind of skewing my face because of that. I just think that's not new. [00:14:41] Speaker A: Yeah, that's not new, but that's not where I was going. It's dumbing us down, but now, because of the length of time it's been dumbing us down, it's now making us immature, because now I'm seeing grown folks doing young Internet shit. You see what I'm saying? Like what? Like clout? Yeah, clout chasing. And, man, I'm like, yo, you was born before the Internet. Why are you even talking like that? [00:15:04] Speaker B: I think I posted on our Twitter page today, or at least I replied to it. This motherfucker shot his dick. What? Yeah, with nine millimeter. [00:15:16] Speaker A: No, that reminds me of somebody I know who shot their. [00:15:19] Speaker B: No, my nigga, that was a bb gun. And I didn't know that the bullet was in there. Still in the chamber. I didn't know the bb. No, I knew the bb was in it. I didn't know there was still air pressure. I didn't know it had pumped. That was still going to fucking force the BB out. I thought it was just going to roll out if you hadn't pumped it. This motherfucker has it back. You can see the bullet in the mag, and he fucking drops the chamber, which automatically loads one in. And then he puts it there. And you can see he's kind of flinching. He's like four likes, I'm assuming, right? Because he's videotaping this whole process. He's videotaping the whole process, and then he fucking just lets loose, my nigga. And it's just like, how do you. [00:16:01] Speaker A: File an insurance claim after they see that video? [00:16:03] Speaker B: How the fuck do you just live with yourself? It's just stupid. [00:16:08] Speaker A: I don't understand what happened. [00:16:11] Speaker B: Maybe you was done with it, maybe he didn't. [00:16:12] Speaker A: Well, he shot himself in the dick. In the dick? I thought he said the hand. [00:16:15] Speaker B: No, the dick. You said that you were talking about me with the hand. This motherfucker shot. I'm going to show the video, man. [00:16:21] Speaker A: Your dick can't work no more, right? [00:16:22] Speaker B: This motherfucker drops the knot. He drops the chamber of the rack. And then he sits there and he puts it. He's like, one, two. And motherfucker is like. Everybody's like, what the fuck? And people were like, no, you shot it anyway. He shot himself in the dick for nothing. I'm like, no, he probably is sitting somewhere fucking mending or fucking whatever the fuck looking at. All these people talk about him and is getting some sort of pleasure from that, right? Again. And we talk about narcissism being fucking fake or first player syndrome or whatever we want to call that shit. That Shit is just the epitome of it. I know that they talked about that fucking. What's the girl that had the bad teeth and fucking then got good teeth and she was married to one of the migos. Yeah. [00:17:17] Speaker A: God damn. The girl with the bad teeth, that got the good teeth. And they married amigo. [00:17:22] Speaker B: Yeah. And they had that song for likes, right? They do anything for clout, right? These motherfuckers really are out here willing to sacrifice themselves for the sake of somebody else's entertainment. The sake of somebody else's, again, for you to kind of be on someone else's mind. And this, if we were going to talk about last week's show, is really that to me, right? Like, how much is enough? I don't need to be on everybody's mind. I really don't. I swear to God. Like, we did this show. We started this show before anybody, if we had any listeners, right? There was nobody fucking listening. And we were sitting in here talking. And so the fact that people listen is a bonus. [00:18:04] Speaker A: That's great, right? [00:18:04] Speaker B: But if they don't, guess what I'm going to be doing. I'm going to sit in this bitch and talk, right? Because it's for holes. [00:18:13] Speaker A: Got to eat, too. [00:18:14] Speaker B: Whole cake. [00:18:15] Speaker A: You want. Okay. Put that whole cake down, bitch. Like that. That nigga was talking to himself. He was having a meet with a. [00:18:22] Speaker B: Whole bunch of Robert Townsend, man. That was Pops. That was. [00:18:30] Speaker A: His name. [00:18:30] Speaker B: Got a coordinate. [00:18:31] Speaker A: What's his name? Witherspoon. [00:18:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:33] Speaker A: John Witherspoon. [00:18:34] Speaker B: Yeah. But again, that was a Robert Townsend production. [00:18:38] Speaker A: Right? [00:18:41] Speaker B: Where's my bitches anyways? [00:18:45] Speaker A: He got no weapon. [00:18:48] Speaker B: It's so wild that there's so many quotables from that. There's so many things that were. And nobody knows probably that shit, right? I was listening on the way, some old school shit. I've been trying to get in touch with my old school shit. I was listening to some Eric B and Rocky and some paid in full on the way over here, and I. [00:19:05] Speaker A: Was like, you know, every word. [00:19:06] Speaker B: All of them. I think everybody does, but, no, they don't. So the thing is that they've heard it, right? They've heard some parts of this, right? Like, easy doesn't do it easy. That's what I'm doing. They might be like, oh, that's nwa. No, that's not French. [00:19:21] Speaker A: If I were to say to you, thinking of a master plan, what would you say? No, what would you say? Something like, I'm lying. Something on my mind? Yeah. Okay, so let's do it together. Thinking of a master plan go. I'm lying. What? Big gas. I'm confident to speak in the mic. You ready? Thinking of a master plan I'm lying something on my mind? No, nigga, not even close. Because ain't nothing but sweat inside my hands. [00:19:49] Speaker B: He doesn't know. [00:19:50] Speaker A: He has no idea. Damn, you're right, man. [00:19:53] Speaker B: I thought everybody knew that fish, which is my favorite dish. But without some money is still a wish, because I don't like to dream about getting paid. [00:20:02] Speaker A: French has no idea what you're talking about. [00:20:04] Speaker B: Yeah, so again, a lot of people don't. [00:20:06] Speaker A: Right? [00:20:06] Speaker B: And these are. It's funny, I was in the dollar general. Now, in the dollar general, motherfuckers just play their own music. They don't got, like, music or some shit. It's whatever the fuck, right? [00:20:19] Speaker A: Whoever got the aux. Who got the aux cable? [00:20:23] Speaker B: So it's very random what you might get to hear it. But I went in there the other night, and it was just like, instrumental vibe going. And I was like, oh, that's kind of dope, bro. [00:20:33] Speaker A: What? [00:20:33] Speaker B: You listening to it? He's like, man, that's all I listen to. He's like. Because this other shit that they'd be listening to nowadays, as far as rap, they don't be talking about shit. And I'm like, it was a little depressing because I remember when rap was the shit, and it talked about shit, right? And it made you feel. You know what I mean? [00:20:53] Speaker A: I hate when people say that, because you just got to go listen to the rappers that make those songs. [00:20:57] Speaker B: My nigga, listen. I'm just talking about all mainstream rap, right? Mainstream rapper. You didn't have to go dig it into the crates. You didn't have to get underground to find a nigga talking some sense. [00:21:08] Speaker A: And if they weren't talking sense, there's some, like, moni in the middle. Where she at? In the middle? What? That was rap. That was entertainment. Now it's like, shooting hunt around clips and drums and I got kill my ops and stuff. Moni in the middle. Where she at? In the middle. What? That was a hook. [00:21:22] Speaker B: What was mean? Like, you're right. It wasn't all necessarily knowledge conscious positive. [00:21:31] Speaker A: Right. [00:21:31] Speaker B: But it was some shit more light hearted. Yeah, it was definitely shit that you didn't feel like. [00:21:38] Speaker A: I heard an interesting perspective. I think it was Cameron. I think it was Cameron. He was saying like, this shit was destined to fail because name another genre of music where they got an east coast, a west coast down south. There's no gangs in music except for hip hop. [00:21:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:57] Speaker A: There's no east coast R B and west coast R B. Not even in other black genres. [00:22:01] Speaker B: Right. [00:22:02] Speaker A: There's no east coast adult contemporary urban ac and there's no west coast urban ac. It's all Joe is R B and so is R. Kelly and so is Prince. You know what I'm saying? But in hip hop, it's divisions. Yes. Midwest is. Yes. There's trap rap drill, isn't it? Because hip hop is based off competition. So you had to create a sets of teams or your coach. Yeah. Okay. But let's look at other things that are based off of teams or competition. Basketball. Do these niggas run around banging on each other and hate each other? Not really, no. [00:22:40] Speaker B: These niggas be loving each other after. [00:22:41] Speaker A: They be NFC and AFC don't battle. They don't be like, they change jerseys. NFC nigga. [00:22:47] Speaker B: Right. There's a mutual respect because we're all part of this fraternity that we fuck with each other regardless. [00:22:56] Speaker A: Why is rap different? And you say it's because it's competition based. I'm saying that the origins of the rap was that competition was to disrespect you. It wasn't like basketball. We're going to play a game, whichever is more skill that that game wins. It was more like, no, I have to disrespect you. I have to make you look funny. Right. So I think that energy took off. But French, though, I don't like you, and I want to talk about you. That doesn't mean that Atlanta versus Haiti. That just means me versus you. What I'm saying is they divided it up by region. So even if you are a New York nigga and you like a down south nigga, can't. Yeah. Yeah. They did do bama shit. Them country outcast niggas. That's bama shit. [00:23:35] Speaker B: Yeah. And I remember for sure, I don't know if row was the pioneer of that, but I know that, for me, that's kind of where it really became evident right before that it wasn't, because, again, it's weird. Before all of that rap, especially on the west coast, you fucked with all that because you had to. Everybody fuck with run DMC. There's no way, like, you was a fan of rap and you didn't like niggas from the East coast. It just was impossible, like you say. [00:24:07] Speaker A: Till snooping them came and knocked the buildings down. [00:24:09] Speaker B: If you wasn't part of BDP, like, if you didn't fuck with know karis one or fucking. They had a battle, right? No, but they had a battle in New York. [00:24:17] Speaker A: In New York, right? [00:24:18] Speaker B: It was the bridge and then south. South Bronx. And they take the same song and they changed it up and they put it in different lyrics and shit. So there was all of. [00:24:26] Speaker A: And French. You're saying that just graduated? [00:24:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that. I guess on the West coast, you were always a fan of East coast rap until I think that death row shit, when they were like, it's like. [00:24:41] Speaker A: Two sides, but I feel like, not to switch around, but I feel like all of that ties into. I'm seeing adults nowadays, right? Even, like, with the hip hop music is completely changed now. Everything now I feel like everybody's trying to be young. Even like, big hit boy got his dad. His dad came out of jail. Big is. He called himself big hit dope music. I like it. West coast gangster rap. But he's an older man, right? And I'm like, I don't want to hear. He's a rapper. Yeah, and he's good. He can rap, but he's talking gang shit, right? He's just like a song. The game will make, like, that whole mixtape with the game, right? That's out. And I'm like, yeah, but you just did jail time. I would want to hear about what you learned or things like that. Redemption. Yeah, right. But that might not be his story. That might not be a story. True. But my thing is, I'm not seeing maturity from mature people. Yeah, they are doing things. And before it was the young kids, the young kids could be the young kids. But I'm like, nigga, you old. You know better. Like a guy, like, wack hunt 100. Like, why is he doing what he's doing? You know what I'm saying? I feel like the Internet now are even making grown adults act immature. You got people that are just like, there was a lady that had her baby at Walmart. It went viral. The baby had no clothes on, just a diaper. I thought you said she had a baby at mean, she took her baby to Walmart. Yeah, she took her baby to Walmart. I thought the bitch was laying. The baby came out with a diaper. [00:26:17] Speaker B: Listen, if you have a baby at Walmart, that would be the most Walmart thing ever, right? Is to go to Walmart and be like, guess what I saw today? Like, goddamn. I was getting some fucking toilet paper. This bitch was in the fucking aisles having a baby. [00:26:29] Speaker A: Had to use all my toilet paper. [00:26:33] Speaker B: Clean up on aisle six. [00:26:34] Speaker A: She had a son with him. All he had was a diaper. No shoes, no clothes, nothing. And then put him in the car. And then the Walmart employee just started to record it instead of like, and saying, why you don't have the baby with some clothes on? And I'm like, why don't you just help the lady? Why don't you just, what the fuck do you care why my kid ain't got no clothes on? [00:26:54] Speaker B: Well, the recording aspect, I don't know what. That's something different. [00:26:57] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. Like, you see the child because it was a cold. They were in a cold state. So the kid was like this freezing inside of. Well, that's different. That's a safety thing. It's not. No, my thing is the lady, why don't you just go help? We started recording saying, you wrong. [00:27:14] Speaker B: You're at Walmart. [00:27:15] Speaker A: They got hella coats. It was another person that ended up getting a coat from the Walmart rack and putting clothes on the kid. But I'm like, I just feel like, I don't know. The Internet is now making everybody dumb again. [00:27:30] Speaker B: I think what it is, too, right? The Internet changed everything, right? [00:27:33] Speaker A: Recording their layoffs, right? Because again, what's going on now? I'm like, nigga, get another job. That could fuck you up from getting another. That girl's never getting. That's what I'm saying. Like, what are you doing? [00:27:45] Speaker B: Content, right? Everybody wants to be a content creator of some sort, right? Let's just be clear. And I think the easiest way is to stumble upon some wild shit, videotape it and post it, right? Like, that's the easiest way to create content without creating content. It's like, look, I saw a fucking plane crash today, and look at all these motherfuckers running around on fire, right? And I'm videotaping it, right? And it's graded or whatever the fuck, but the reality of it is, what are you doing? There's a level of humanity that gets lost in that aspect. I don't know if it was Ricky Smiley or somebody had posted, like, if the Titanic was today, right? And it fucking showed everybody in the water and they're filming the ship going down, right? Like, everybody got their cameras up, pointed at the ship, like, look, let me live time this or at least get this out so people can see what the real is and all like that. Even that one video I saw where the fucking plane engine was on fire. She's videotaping this whole shit, right? And everybody's in there praying and she's panning back and forth. I'm like, you're real chill with this video camera shit for a fucking plane. [00:28:55] Speaker A: Wing being on fire because she can't let people see. She's scared because that'd be some punk shit. [00:29:01] Speaker B: Listen, I got a following to fuck this fucking video. I need to make sure. The last thing you could do, though, there's really nothing you could do again. I guess you go out, go out in a blaze of gory. Go out with some fucking likes. I don't know. My thing is there needs to be times where you say, I'm not going to capture this. I'm not going to. [00:29:24] Speaker A: Oh, you mean like every time? That's how I feel. [00:29:27] Speaker B: I'm not going to worry about this as much as the actual in the moment. And it may go back to. That's not even first player. Right? Because again, I feel like there's a disconnect between. You're saying immaturity, but I think it's a disconnect between the reality. Right. Like, your reality is what you're filming. [00:29:46] Speaker A: I'm saying immaturity because now I can understand people my age and younger doing dumb shit. But people that were once very mature. Yeah, I'll take one. [00:29:56] Speaker B: Very mature. [00:29:57] Speaker A: Are now starting to act immature due to the clout you receive from the Internet. That's what I'm saying. [00:30:02] Speaker B: Let's be clear. I know that on the show that I wasn't on when you said I wasn't a mentor, that you said that. [00:30:12] Speaker A: I knew he felt somewhere. [00:30:13] Speaker B: No, I'm very cool. I just wanted to make sure that everybody knew what I was talking. [00:30:21] Speaker A: Sure, sure. [00:30:22] Speaker B: Because again, what his point was. No, it wasn't. [00:30:25] Speaker A: No, because how many smokes? [00:30:27] Speaker B: No, what it is is he's kind of hurting my feelings now because of what he said then during that, on that episode. [00:30:32] Speaker A: So how do you hurt your feelings now? [00:30:34] Speaker B: Let me explain it. Because he's saying that what Jamie does is he helps me to understand how to stay young. But now he's saying, look, these motherfuckers that's still staying young, there's a problem, right? The Internet got them fucked up. [00:30:49] Speaker A: You're not doing that. [00:30:50] Speaker B: All I'm saying, and this was my point when I was going to bring this up, is that I've been young acting all my life. So before, when I was young, when I was old. So I don't know if that's ever going to change. There was no Internet ever. So again, I don't do it for the Internet. And the Internet hasn't made me this way. It's just this is the way I am. [00:31:14] Speaker A: Yeah, but I'm not talking. I rest my case, older people with a young soul or older people that knows what's in now. I'm talking about old. [00:31:23] Speaker B: You're talking about young, old women, older. [00:31:25] Speaker A: People that are now trying to create viral moments or viral content or doing just anything just for the sake of clout. I'm like, nigga, you 40, you 50. What are you doing? Well, the idea, though, french, let's not get this twisted. It's not for clout. It's for clout so that they can make money. It's not just for clout. And I feel like the idea is that the clout will garner some type of contract or deal. [00:31:49] Speaker B: What about. [00:31:50] Speaker A: So I just want to know, how the fuck you think recording that crazy fire on an airplane engine? How many of those can you film in your lifetime? So you got one, but what's the next video like? How long we got to wait for the next incredible thing? Yeah. You've never had anything happen in your whole life. This one time, an engine was on fire, you recorded it, and now you're viral. But then what? Yeah, so you got to keep chasing that, and that's what happened. But that's not real because the person wasn't interesting from the beginning. The engine was interesting. The engine being on fire while they're on a plane in the middle of the sky, that's what's interesting to do with you. You were just there. [00:32:29] Speaker B: Yeah. And I think that's part of the thing, too. Right? Everybody wants to be the scooper, right? They want to be the one that gets it first. They're the one that. I know you think this music is trash, but E 40 has a song. [00:32:43] Speaker A: I don't think he's trash. Okay? [00:32:44] Speaker B: I thought you did. [00:32:44] Speaker A: I think his music is trash. [00:32:45] Speaker B: That's what I meant. [00:32:46] Speaker A: Okay. [00:32:47] Speaker B: But he's a good dude, man. [00:32:49] Speaker A: I think he's had a lot of success, and he's got a lot of fans. [00:32:52] Speaker B: He has a song where he's talking about relating, right? He's like, to try to relate with these young niggas. He's like, I'll be doing that shit where I got a money phone. All I'll be doing to the money phone, just so I can let you know that I was like, you, too, at one point, and that I keep myself relatable to these young niggas, right. Because I think that's a little bit of what we were talking about with three stacks when he was like, I don't got nothing to say. I don't know how to relate to niggas today, right? But I think in some instances, just not forgetting that youthfulness, right, and understanding where you were when you were like them, right? We're not that different. I know people are different. But when you're young, you make dumb mistakes, right? You do shit like that. But when you get older, you stop making those dumb mistakes. And the more you stop making those dumb mistakes, the more you expect you forget that you did. And then you look at the youth, and you're like, oh, these motherfuckers. Not remembering the cake stands you were doing or the fucking dumb shit you were driving down the country road with no lights on and shit. All of this wild shit that you did back in your youth, maybe that's just me, I don't know. But I never did a cake stand. [00:34:06] Speaker A: You friends? Cake stand is the beer one, right? Yeah. [00:34:08] Speaker B: Where you stand upside down? [00:34:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I've done that. [00:34:11] Speaker B: Okay, and then what about driving that night with the lights out? No, you turn the lights, like, let's go. [00:34:20] Speaker A: I want to see. You do that often. [00:34:24] Speaker B: I haven't done it since I was a youth. [00:34:26] Speaker A: When last time you did it, how old? [00:34:28] Speaker B: Probably about, like, 1717, to be fair. [00:34:34] Speaker A: I don't think Andre doesn't relate to young black people anymore. I think Andre doesn't relate to humans. [00:34:39] Speaker B: And that's his problem, maybe. I would agree. He got by, dude. [00:34:43] Speaker A: Yeah, he's elevated, and he can't get back. [00:34:46] Speaker B: Yeah, he got by, dude. [00:34:47] Speaker A: What stops it? I'll fall and I can't get up. [00:34:49] Speaker B: I've risen and I can't fall down. [00:34:51] Speaker A: Something like, that's what he is, bro. He's just up there. [00:34:54] Speaker B: I've risen, and I can't fall down. [00:34:56] Speaker A: But I think that what French is saying is real. But old people or older people becoming viral is the exact same. It's not different to me. I don't feel like they have more responsibility. I don't feel like they have a different. I understand why they're doing it. The same reason why I understand why the young people are doing it. Everybody is pissed off. They're tired of the conventional ways of making money. They're tired of the ball and chain of getting up in the morning and punching the clock. So people are willing to do anything to get out of that circle. The problem, though, is that that never was a viable way. And this is the argument I've had with my son over and over and over again. Just because some people were able to get away with it and do it doesn't mean that it's viable. It makes it possible. [00:35:44] Speaker B: Right. [00:35:45] Speaker A: But it's still improbable. [00:35:46] Speaker B: Yes. [00:35:47] Speaker A: The vast amount of people possible and. [00:35:50] Speaker B: Improbable are not the same. [00:35:53] Speaker A: The vast amount of them have tried and failed. And I'm talking about the incredible majority, the couple of handful of people they got through. Yes, they are something to aspire to, look up to that because they were able to figure it out. But don't believe that just because they were figured out that anybody can, because that's a true statement. If they could do it, anybody can do it. That's a true statement. Right. But if we took probability out and put it in there, now we're talking about a whole different thing. So, yes, it is possible. But if the possibility is 0.2% right, is that something I want to have no plan b for? [00:36:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. [00:36:30] Speaker A: Like, it's my plan a. And I think the problem, though, French, is that the majority of people in America, especially, no matter whether they're young or old, they're sick of the old thing, and they've seen all these people that have made it, and they're like, well, I can do that, too. And it's not true. It's the same thing happened. It happened to rap first. Everything that's happened into the world now happened to rap first. Think about all the people that once they made recording equipment inexpensive enough to get it in your own house, how many rappers came out with and how many mixtapes were out. Let me. I'll show you my mixtape. And they weren't qualified. They weren't good enough to be rappers chasing. Yeah, but because the technology and everything had dropped down to a certain point where it was accessible, just like the iPhone is to that grown up man who you're saying decided to make a viral moment out of something. It's so accessible and so easy. What's what they do, what you just. [00:37:23] Speaker B: Made a light bulb pop off on my head. Yeah. No, because again, I remember this is very. [00:37:31] Speaker A: You said something popped off on your head. French Reggie came and I was like. [00:37:34] Speaker B: What happened when motherfuckers know are like Apple people now, right? Whether iPhone, you mean, that's it. They're iPhone people, right? But they're not Apple people. They're iPhone people. But they think that they're Apple people, and they're to the point where they got fucking prejudices against other people's technology, right? [00:37:53] Speaker A: Like green bubbles. Right? [00:37:55] Speaker B: And the reality of it was, especially when the iPhone first came out, it was a subsidized deal, bro. You was getting this bitch for 199 or 299. That's how you got into the Apple game. If they started out like this, selling their phones for 13 way they're doing it now, it would be a far less. These entitled fucking. [00:38:18] Speaker A: Yeah, they have to build the value. [00:38:20] Speaker B: The thing about it is, the problem to me is that the value is these mother people get snobby, right? Like, again, you think you're a snob, right? You're a blue bubble motherfucker, because of your fucking. You now paid whatever it was. But in reality, you were fucking on welfare. You were on phone welfare to get in this motherfucker. You were section eight ass nigga. It's just like the nigga that got section eight living in somebody else's real nice house, flexing on the nigga that lives in the hood. No, nigga. You own section eight, too? Yeah, sure. [00:38:55] Speaker A: You pay interest, isn't it? No interest? [00:38:58] Speaker B: No. So again, what I'm saying is, when this started, though, when this all started, everybody that came in like, oh, I got an iPhone now. I'm Apple. Apple now. We Apple. We Apple. You section eight Apple, nigga. So stop payment, you own payments again. Most of these motherfuckers is all payment. Motherfuckers is not coming in. Talk about, here's $7,000 for four phones. [00:39:19] Speaker A: So what French Reggie is talking about right now, if you have an Apple card or you apply through Apple, you can get twelve months interest free to get the phone and not be tied to a carrier. What Mac is talking about is when carriers open it up. So you get 24 months added deferred payments. You pay 24 payments. [00:39:35] Speaker B: You just put in your phone to buy it. It was 199 to get it for the smaller, 1299 for the larger one. Just like all the other phones that you could get back. [00:39:44] Speaker A: That was when the phones used to do two year contract, right? But all that being said, iPhone is still way better than Android. [00:39:50] Speaker B: And the funny thing is, all they did is you said it for trigger is weird. It's like that's when they used to do two year contract. It's still a two year contract, my nigga. It's just structured different. It's still two years worth of payments and it's just hitting your bill every month. And if you try to upgrade early, there's a problem, right? There's still that early upgrade shit. [00:40:14] Speaker A: Well, they recognize that people don't want to be stuck in a contract for service, but they will be stuck in a contract for phone. [00:40:19] Speaker B: But again, it's the same shit. Because again. [00:40:23] Speaker A: Or you try to take that phone. [00:40:25] Speaker B: No, but try to take that phone to a different service, you can, you're still in the same contract for service. [00:40:30] Speaker A: Like say, for instance, you buy your phone through T Mobile. You're connected to T Mobile until you're done paying for that, right. [00:40:34] Speaker B: So you're still a contract for just. They've. They've worded it or they've structured it different to make you feel different, but it's still the same shit. The problem still better, though. Okay, I feel you. But my point is that motherfuckers is bougie for no reason. Like, stop it. And now I get it. Maybe you do have a MacBook, right? Or a fucking iPad or something else that you've subsidized with your section eight fucking technology ass. But you're not real Apple, nigga. Real Apple niggas look at you as fucking section eight. [00:41:09] Speaker A: So they're supposed to just buy outright their whole phone at one time? That's what you're saying? In order to talk shit. [00:41:14] Speaker B: Yeah, they need to come in and own some shit. [00:41:17] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I know what they don't want to own is a green bubble. [00:41:20] Speaker B: No, they can stop. [00:41:21] Speaker A: That's all that they don't want to own. [00:41:23] Speaker B: So that new fucking AI in the fucking. What's the name of the S 24? I don't know, man. And it's weird because are you really. [00:41:35] Speaker A: On here trying to convince yourself to buy a Samsung, of all things? You're going the other direction, bro. It's called S 24. Now, how many of them they got? 24 of them. They got 24. [00:41:46] Speaker B: I don't know. I think they skipped some years, like. [00:41:49] Speaker A: Figured it out yet. [00:41:49] Speaker B: But listen, just like little Wayne said back in the day, man, you know what I mean? When he was advertising the Galaxy, these motherfuckers was everything before the iPhone. So stop it, bro. Like, the iPhone, I know makes it better. I get all of that shit, but they ain't innovating. They copying the fucking shit that Samsung been doing. Them fucking South Koreans been on some shit for a minute. They've been ahead of the game for a minute. And the shit that they come out with has been fucking before the iPhone. Typically there's not anything that the iPhone has on it that the fucking Samsung didn't have first. I'm just saying. [00:42:25] Speaker A: Except for maybe FaceTime, so first is better. Got you. [00:42:28] Speaker B: If I fucking invented it. Yes. Then you're just. [00:42:32] Speaker A: No, no, listen. What I'm saying. You're saying first is better. Samsung didn't come up with this shit. You think Samsung came up with all these ideas? They bought these shits from other people, other poor business people who had an idea and they just crushed them and took their idea. [00:42:45] Speaker B: Hey, no, I do want to watch they have that. [00:42:48] Speaker A: What y'all. [00:42:52] Speaker B: Anything to pdas? What was, there was a, there's a series out or maybe it's a movie about the BlackBerry company. [00:43:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:01] Speaker B: And I want to check that out because it's funny to think of who was dominating or what was. [00:43:08] Speaker A: Bro, do you remember it was them and palm. [00:43:11] Speaker B: Yeah, I remember Palm and Nokia. [00:43:13] Speaker A: Yeah, Nokia was the cell phone. But Palm and BlackBerry were a personal assistant, right? Yeah. And they were like, there was no way to beat them. So was BlackBerry's mistake. They assumed because of the business class that the business guys would have never made the switch to iPhones. [00:43:27] Speaker B: They banked their whole thing on that. [00:43:29] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And I love the keyboard, so they weren't wrong. It's just that what they didn't know was going to happen were people like me. No, they didn't realize. People like me who were stringent. I want a real physical, tactile keyboard. We wouldn't switch and I switched. I didn't need it anymore. I thought I was going to always need it because it was just so much more comfortable. But then as the touch screen became better and that keyboard on the touch screen became better, all phones that had touch screens ended up being better than that qwerty keyboard that the. [00:44:01] Speaker B: And they give you that vibration when you fucking. If you want it. When you hit your keys like shit. That can make it feel. [00:44:07] Speaker A: Yes, it's tactile. I think that they assumed that people like me wouldn't switch and we did. I feel like that's one of the hardest thing in business is when to leave or when to pivot. Yeah, well, I tried to stay because I ended up getting what was that the sidekick, because I still wanted to have the keyboard feel. And then after the sidekick, I got something called the MDA. It was another Android phone, and it slid up and had a whole keyboard, a full keyboard underneath the entire thing. And I tried. The iPhone was just better, man. Competition. And I know that Mac is like, all you gotta say, the iPhone actually. [00:44:44] Speaker B: Is just, you know, let's be clear. The iPhone changed the. Understand. [00:44:48] Speaker A: No. Right now, even though Samsung in your mind, comes up with every idea and Apple has no ideas even still. [00:44:55] Speaker B: How much better, though? Let's talk about that. How much better is the iPhone? [00:44:59] Speaker A: Incredibly and unmeasurably better. [00:45:02] Speaker B: Wow. [00:45:02] Speaker A: Just from a security standpoint, I would say not just security, but definitely security. [00:45:06] Speaker B: Okay. [00:45:07] Speaker A: The reason why iPhone is always going to be better, and the reason why the Mac computer is going to always be better is because they build all of it. They build the hardware, they build the software, they build the connection method between the hardware and the software. And if you have hardware and software that talk and are always in sync, it's always going to be better. The reason why Samsung and Pixel and all the other things have so many problems, Pixel should be the best one. [00:45:30] Speaker B: I'm about to say I don't understand. That's the same. You just described the pixel. [00:45:33] Speaker A: They should be the best, but they're not. Why is pixel not the better? [00:45:37] Speaker B: Because they came late to the game. [00:45:39] Speaker A: If anything, they got all the lessons. That's not why. The problem is that Android is too open source. It's too open source, right. It's open for anybody to develop anything. And there's a thousand and apps that can play on it. [00:45:51] Speaker B: Microsoft. [00:45:51] Speaker A: And there are 50 different screen sizes that you have to prepare for. So all your apps have to work on the S 24, the S 23, the S 22, that's twenty one. S twenty, that's nineteen. S eighteen. Whereas with iPhone, there's an IT phone, 15 1413. If you got a twelve, it's about time to upgrade, because if you don't, we're going to stop supporting that twelve. I got the twelve I need this time for me. You see what I'm saying? And I just picked a number. I'm not sure if twelve is the one yet, but they'll tell you on the website, yo, this one is about to be phased out. So you got a window. And that's why iPhone is better, is because they recognize that there are physical and software limitations when the platforms are separate. So they just put it all together and they're trying to make it as you know, before we left there, they were trying to make it to where there's only one os. There's not iOS and macOS, there's just Apple OS. Right. And they're going to do it. Yeah, it's going to happen. The new Mac update. Yeah, the newest Mac versions look a lot like the iPad version. [00:46:44] Speaker B: But see, that was my thing that I think I was like, well, I guess I don't know if you could even make the phone more like the computer, but to make the computer. I feel like we were taking things away when the computer is now more like an iPad. [00:46:57] Speaker A: But see, the difference though is that what do you still need in a computer? And this was the problem that rim had. They thought that people needed that keyboard and that email more than they needed the ease of apps. [00:47:12] Speaker B: I'll give Apple that. They're willing to take away shit quick. I remember headphone jacks, fucking disk drives. Disk drives. When they fucking took the disk drive away and people were like, well, what the fuck? How I'm going to load my programs? [00:47:23] Speaker A: When last time you looked at a disk? When last time you played a CD? [00:47:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:26] Speaker A: Especially when they create the technology that transforms wifi. They give you Apple music. Yeah. They give you. [00:47:34] Speaker B: It's not even itunes anymore. Nothing is dead. [00:47:37] Speaker A: And Iphoto is dead. All the I shit is dead. [00:47:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:40] Speaker A: IPhone is still. Why. And that's why it's better. It's not because I'm just a fanboy and I love Apple. I think it's just because they build the both sides of it. When you got both sides of the house, they're going to talk. [00:47:55] Speaker B: Right. [00:47:56] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? [00:47:56] Speaker B: And that's why I was a early adopter of the pixel, because I understand. I agree with that. I thought that again, what version are. [00:48:04] Speaker A: They still allowing Android to run on? Devices. Exactly. Android. Twelve. Exactly. But you know what? Apple has an iOS that no longer runs. And if you want to use that, you can, but it's not supported. You can use it till it falls. [00:48:18] Speaker B: Don't call us about it, though. [00:48:19] Speaker A: Yeah, but we're not going to support it. We're not doing no new updates. Nobody's programming anything for this shit. The security is terrible on it because people can hack this shit and they let you know that and there's no qualms about it. Whereas Android, they got cupcake. [00:48:34] Speaker B: No, stop that. They don't have any of those anymore. They don't have any of those. They don't have any of those snow cones or none of that shit. No more. That was a thing. [00:48:47] Speaker A: But they're all supported, right? And you still got new devices coming on, the old software and shit like that. It's just not a better platform no matter what you say to me. Mac, what? The S 24. Got it, got this. But if the shit only works half the time or you load some new app to it and now it messed up the first app. [00:49:05] Speaker B: And that always, to me, is reminiscent of Windows, because that was my problem when I first started fucking around on a computer, is that I would just get anything and download it to the computer, and then next thing I know, my shit don't work, right, but all of this is compatible with my computer. But whether it's compatible with each other is the problem. A lot of times, one would fuck up the other or make something else not work. So I get that completely. And it's weird because I think that was the openness. The open sourceness of it was my first attraction to mine, too. [00:49:42] Speaker A: I had my shit jailbroken and all kind of stuff. But then it gets to the point where you're like, well, see, that's what I'm saying. [00:49:47] Speaker B: With Android, there wasn't no need to jailbreak it, right? [00:49:49] Speaker A: You still had to jailbreak it. It was just easier to do. [00:49:52] Speaker B: Well, no. Again, when I came into the Android game, it was probably 2017, and they had the app, I forget the name of it, that you could download directly from the play store, and it side loaded stuff that gave you. Right, all of that. [00:50:07] Speaker A: That's not what I'm talking about. [00:50:09] Speaker B: Gave you all of the fucking bootleg movies, right? Like, straight up. I got one on my phone right now. It's fucking called Cinetime or something like that, right? And some of them, they'll be like, camera quality, right? Because the motherfucker is in a movie theater recording it. But after maybe a little bit, like, what were we doing? We were jailbreaking those fire sticks. And you could get all of the shit downloaded to. [00:50:37] Speaker A: Yeah, but how great do those apps work? How often you have to go back in and reprogram it? How often do you have to go in and download and do the shit over again? [00:50:44] Speaker B: Yeah, this one's different, right? Because I think it's a subscription based. Like, if you go premium, you don't have to do anything. It uploads all of this shit. And that, again, was my benefit or my attraction to Android initially was like, listen, I can watch all of this free shit that I couldn't. They don't even offer this without jailbreaking. My iPhone. Right. And I don't want a jailbroken iPhone that's fucking trash because it doesn't run as good as it did before you jailbroke it. [00:51:11] Speaker A: I'd be willing to bet all those apps like that Load some kind of crazy malware on your phone anyway. [00:51:16] Speaker B: They probably do. It's funny because I make faces, weird faces, when I jack off, because I'm like, if someone's recording this, if my camera's on and I'm on the Internet in South Korea, I'll be thinking about that too. [00:51:29] Speaker A: Because of your webcam. [00:51:31] Speaker B: Yeah. If you're looking at me like, so. [00:51:34] Speaker A: What, do you show your dick sometimes? No. Do you show your camera your dick sometimes? You have it on your face, and then you get to a good point about the bus, and you show your dick while you're doing it, because I. [00:51:46] Speaker B: Feel you got to pay for that. I don't get that one away for free. You can only get the facials for free if I'm doing that. I want some fucking. [00:51:55] Speaker A: I don't give a fuck. You got a video of me with my face? [00:51:59] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. Me neither. [00:52:01] Speaker A: You don't give a fuck because you already know they got you. Well, I'm saying I don't give a fuck if that's what you get if you don't see my dick in the shot. Now, French with you, though, it's a little tricky because projectiles know one time, how many times is your camera not recording? [00:52:16] Speaker B: What was the white dude? That was the Paulie short. No, the projectile. This nigga's Gilbert Gottfried. No, the porn dude, Tony Hinchcliffe. That fucking would shoot sperm, like, across the room at bitches. [00:52:28] Speaker A: Like, white guy doing. [00:52:31] Speaker B: Yep, white guy. [00:52:32] Speaker A: Peter North. [00:52:32] Speaker B: Peter north. This nigga. See, it is so funny, right, that I was talking to someone the other day, and we were talking about Lisa Ann and Snowflake, was like, you guys know porn stars names? I'm like, I don't know what that says about me, but, yes, I do. I do know porn stars names. [00:52:50] Speaker A: The only reason I know his name. [00:52:51] Speaker B: Though, is because of that. He would hit bitches from the back. [00:52:55] Speaker A: Wall, and it was a lot. [00:52:57] Speaker B: Yeah, too much. This nigga would run back. Like, this nigga shooting from deep. I'm not just going to pull out on Steph Curry. Step right. He's a steph curry of porn. This nigga was like, this is too close. Like, you got to back up. Go deep. [00:53:13] Speaker A: I'm going to get you pregnant. Go 30 steps back. That's funny. [00:53:20] Speaker B: And it's so funny. And then I was talking to fridge, so I was talking to pac about it, and we talked about Lisa Ann having a fantasy football. And she does. Yeah. [00:53:31] Speaker A: Who's Lisa Ann, first of all? [00:53:33] Speaker B: So Lisa Ann is the white girl or black girl? White girl. [00:53:35] Speaker A: Okay. What made her legend is she was really the one that embraced interracial anal. [00:53:48] Speaker B: She did it all gang banged. [00:53:51] Speaker A: That don't really sound like there is a first to this, but if you. [00:53:55] Speaker B: Guys listen, I'm going to go ahead and this is Fred. [00:53:58] Speaker A: Ready? [00:53:58] Speaker B: I'm just talking about what she did. Now, granted, she did it. [00:54:02] Speaker A: He said embrace. He was the first one to embrace. [00:54:04] Speaker B: I don't know if she was the first one. She definitely wasn't. [00:54:06] Speaker A: What I mean by embrace, that's a tall order. She anal black niggas. She made it like. She kind of, like, made it white. The reason why we have a black now, Lisa Ann paved the way. What year will you say this would be when Lisa Ann was active? Eighty s. Ninety s. No, she's not. [00:54:26] Speaker B: 80S, because I don't think King Kunta's. [00:54:28] Speaker A: Favorite is Sarah J. [00:54:30] Speaker B: No, but he's a big Lisa Anne fan, too. He's mentioned it. Will you look at her age? You're saying the. [00:54:36] Speaker A: She's older than Sarah J. She's in that class. Okay. Yeah, I would say that I saw her around black people, too. [00:54:42] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. [00:54:43] Speaker A: I don't know who embraced it. [00:54:44] Speaker B: Who embraced Alexis? Texas. Texas Alexis or whatever her name. [00:54:47] Speaker A: Who embraced it better at French. I like Lisa Ann, Sarah J's face. She got the body and the energy of fucking, but her face, I still can't get with it. Okay. [00:55:02] Speaker B: And I think, too, it's funny because she's pivoted, right? Penetrated. She's pivoted from the porn life, but she uses it to capitalize on the fantasy. Right. Like the fantasy sports. Right. But again, she was a fantasy before and now she does fantasy football. [00:55:21] Speaker A: Right? Does she notice it? [00:55:22] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. She's good. [00:55:23] Speaker A: Better than you. Would she beat French in. [00:55:26] Speaker B: I would listen to her. [00:55:27] Speaker A: Would she beat French in the fantasy league? [00:55:29] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. French was trash. He was a one hit wonder. [00:55:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Wait, next year. I heard you suck, French. [00:55:35] Speaker B: French was a one hit wonder this year. [00:55:37] Speaker A: I was bad. But were you preoccupied? No, the players drafted horribly. Yeah, I drafted horribly, but I drafted good players. They just didn't play this year. Right. They didn't play it the right way. You drafted Doug fluty? No, like, give me fluty. First up. We've been talking for 55 minutes. We got a topic. You got an sd topic? I want to. [00:56:00] Speaker B: Didn't we already do that, though? I thought we did that. [00:56:02] Speaker A: When? [00:56:03] Speaker B: A couple of weeks ago. [00:56:04] Speaker A: Okay. [00:56:05] Speaker B: It was like the ender r1 quick. And you said it was too many. [00:56:09] Speaker A: Okay. Do something else. [00:56:10] Speaker B: Yeah. So the forgiveness part, I want to talk about that. Right. I'm just going to say it, and I know it seems weird or whatever, but I'm not saying orthodox Christian, but I'm a Christian. [00:56:25] Speaker A: Right. [00:56:26] Speaker B: And I believe that part of that is forgiving people. Right. Like, I think that that's what, for me, Christianity is all about. Right. Because romans 323, we've all fallen short, right? [00:56:40] Speaker A: Wow. Scripture. [00:56:41] Speaker B: Yeah. We've all fallen short of the glory of God. Right. [00:56:46] Speaker A: Never mind. He don't got scripture. French. [00:56:48] Speaker B: Hold on, man. That's three shots. That's what got me. [00:56:52] Speaker A: Never mind. French. [00:56:55] Speaker B: Falling short of the glory of God, man. So we all have, right? There's none of us here that are perfect. Shut up, man. [00:57:02] Speaker A: I haven't fallen short of no fucking. There was never an agreement between us where he gave. [00:57:06] Speaker B: You've never sinned. You've never done no wrong. [00:57:09] Speaker A: You're saying that's falling short of the glory of God. I don't agree. [00:57:11] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't agree. [00:57:12] Speaker A: Says who? [00:57:13] Speaker B: Jesus. So Jesus was supposed to be sinless, right? [00:57:16] Speaker A: He died for our sins. He didn't tell you that? He's never told you all that Jesus. [00:57:21] Speaker B: Was the epitome of the sinless, right? [00:57:24] Speaker A: The same dude who said that that's the truth. Also touches little boys. Quick question. [00:57:29] Speaker B: Not all of them touch. Let's go back to that. You can't do all fucking priests out there. Some priests out there doing good work, fucking holding a dick to themselves and not doing nothing to nobody. But yes, there's a handful of motherfuckers. It's like when I fucking was, like in the early 90s when if you were from fucking Southern California, use a gang banger. Not really. Just because that was hyped up at the time didn't mean that every black person from Southern California was in. [00:57:59] Speaker A: Most black people from California aren't from. [00:58:00] Speaker B: In gangs or adjacent, I would say. [00:58:04] Speaker A: No, I would say most people in California are not in. [00:58:06] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:58:07] Speaker A: Most black people in California are not in. Yeah. Fuck yeah. [00:58:09] Speaker B: For sure. [00:58:10] Speaker A: Right? [00:58:10] Speaker B: Okay. I didn't know what you. But, you know, you couldn't tell people outside of California that, you know what I mean? Because that's all they had. And it's similarly like, we don't go to catholic churches to see the good work that some preachers, I mean, priests are putting in. So therefore, all we see is when there's one on tv for fucking touching altar boys and all that shit, and we see that more than we see anything else. So therefore we think that that's all of them do. I just want to put that out there? They don't all probably do that. [00:58:39] Speaker A: Good work. Good work, Deacon. Friar Tuck. Good work, Friar Tuck. [00:58:46] Speaker B: All I'm saying is. So I said all of that to say this, right? Because again, I know that it's supposed to be, as a Christian, you're supposed to forgive, right? To the extent which you, one of the tenants, to the extent in which you forgive, you shall be forgiven. Right? And to extent in which you judge, you shall be judged. Right? I get all of that, right? But I'm starting to wonder, does everybody deserve forgiveness? [00:59:15] Speaker A: You don't understand Christianity. [00:59:17] Speaker B: I get it. Forgiveness is for you, right? That's for you to not hold on to shit, right? To let go of shit. [00:59:25] Speaker A: Are you talking about forgiveness? Like society's forgiveness or Christianity's forgiveness? [00:59:30] Speaker B: Forgiveness? Somebody do you dirty, bro, somebody didn't fucked you over, somebody didn't robbed you or fucking robbed your parents or fucking shot a brother or whatever the fuck, right? Whatever the fuck that the wrong was, they've wronged you, right? Do all wrongs, in essence, deserve to be forgiven, or are some wrongs be like, fuck that. Not never, not today, not in the afterlife, not whenever I'm taking this shit with me to the pearly gates. Like, fuck you. [01:00:06] Speaker A: This is why things in religion fall down for me. Because you can't have both. Is either one or the other. If we're going to do religion, it's got to be one or the other. Yeah. And this is why the shit falls down. You can't say I'm a Christian and then say I can't forgive. That's one of the tenets you have to forgive. [01:00:24] Speaker B: Right? [01:00:24] Speaker A: You have to. That's like everybody. Not selectively, everybody. If anything, that's the reason why Christianity was able to, outside of the mass killings that they've done to force people to become christians, is because of the forgiveness aspect. That's why it's easier. That's why it's so celebrated. Because, hey, worst case scenario, God's going to forgive me. [01:00:48] Speaker B: But we're not talking about God forgiving you. We're talking about your fellow man. I'm not talking about God again. I feel like, well, you just said. [01:00:56] Speaker A: He who forgives, whatever that bullshit you said, wrong. But that's why we even implement it in our day to day life to each other, is because the religion says it's the holy way, is to forgive. So because we live in that world with that religion, we now apply it to our day to day and say, hey, you need to forgive because this is a christian nation. [01:01:22] Speaker B: I'm opposing the argument, not as my own issue, because I do believe that. Right? [01:01:28] Speaker A: Forgiveness. [01:01:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:29] Speaker A: You believe in forgiving everybody no matter what. Somebody rapes your daughter, forgive them. Fuck that. [01:01:36] Speaker B: So let's be clear, right? [01:01:38] Speaker A: You don't need to be clear. You can't forget. This shit is crystal clear, man. [01:01:43] Speaker B: Right? [01:01:45] Speaker A: Somebody rapes your daughter, you forgiven them. [01:01:50] Speaker B: Has there been a repentance? [01:01:52] Speaker A: No, it doesn't matter. That's not your place. [01:01:54] Speaker B: Okay? [01:01:55] Speaker A: In the forgiveness tree, in their forgiveness hierarchy, that has no relation to what you care about. All you care about is, did you forgive? Right? Let's be christians. You don't want to hear that. [01:02:09] Speaker B: No, because again, okay, so to me, right, if you are continually still raping people, right, again, it might not be for me that easy to say, yes, I forgive you because you haven't changed. There's no reason to forgive you because you're just going to do that shit again. [01:02:30] Speaker A: Right? You're judging that person. [01:02:31] Speaker B: No, you're still raping, but you're still raping people. [01:02:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:35] Speaker B: So I'm not judging you. It's a fact. You're still out here doing this shit. You haven't turned away from what you fucking asking me to stop or forgive you for. So what would be my. [01:02:47] Speaker A: He's not asking you to forgive him. God is. [01:02:48] Speaker B: I get you. Right. [01:02:50] Speaker A: And then you probably would say, damn it, and not you. But the people that say they would forgive the person that raped their daughters because they have this internal battle because of fuck that. [01:02:59] Speaker B: No, I'm not justifying it. And again, I'm not making excuses because that's not what that's about. I didn't think forgiveness is making excuse for why it's okay or why you did anything of what you did. It's just that I don't burden myself with that. And I think that to me that's where it comes down to honestly. Right. So again, if somebody did you dirty and before there was ever, you didn't even know it, right? Or passed away or something like that, and they never got a chance to tell you I'm sorry or whatever the fuck, you know what I mean? And then you find out that they did rape your daughter or some shit, right? I think that part, to me, maybe it's just me, but I think that is easier to kind of forgive and do because again, I think that it's guaranteed not going to continue, right? And then whatever happens, sure, whatever the fat. But I think when it's something that's continually, like fucking Jack the Ripper or some fucking Jeffrey Dahmer shit, right? Like, if you're still out here doing what you're fucking doing and what you did to me, I don't know if I could forgive that. Because I think that's where me. I think I have multiple personalities. And I just turn into me, myself and Irene, and that's where I fucking go get the sniper gun. And I'm like, this is where I can be an assassin. And I feel like this is the okay part of me, right? I don't have a problem merking that nigga. [01:04:34] Speaker A: Because where does this fall back into Christianity again? [01:04:36] Speaker B: Yeah, Christianity. There's a lot of, like, merking for Christianity. [01:04:40] Speaker A: Not for you, for me. I think forgiveness is overrated. I think it's bullshit psychologists told us to do, to feel like good people. Because you do me wrong. Fuck you, and I'll live my life. I'm not going to have this burden because you did me wrong. If I see you, because I never forgive you. I don't have that heaviness. It's just that I won't forgive you, but fuck you. And I'm just going to keep living my life. [01:05:14] Speaker B: On site, nigga. On site. [01:05:15] Speaker A: Like, you don't carry on site. Because I like my freedom. So I'm probably not going to be the on type of site on site. Or what if you're the opposite of what Jamie Mack was talking about? What if you cannot forgive and also not giving any energy? Yeah, that's me. Because that's what they're saying when they're saying you forgive people for you, not for them, because it allows you to release. But what if you're able to release that shit and still say, fuck them? [01:05:37] Speaker B: No, yeah, I get that. [01:05:38] Speaker A: That's real. That's where you get back to nature. Because, like, fringe is saying maybe that's some programming shit because I understood that shit. Like, nigga, do you wrong. Nigga, do you wrong. Fuck them. Yeah, but see, 2023, I was working on Grace a lot, right? And I was trying to get to a place where I recognize that most people are not bad. Most people are doing the best that they can, and sometimes they fall short because of how much shit they got going on. [01:06:08] Speaker B: 323. Romans 323. [01:06:11] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [01:06:12] Speaker B: You just said they fall short. [01:06:14] Speaker A: Yeah. So my thing was always or last year, I was working on it. Like, people are trying to do the best that they can and sometimes they fuck up because of that. There's too much stress in their life or there's something that's overwhelming and they do you wrong. Now there has to be, though, a line of what? Doing wrong, there has to be an unreturnable line where after you do me wrong like this, like after you've gone this low, I don't give a fuck what you say or what you do. You're gone for my life. And there's no forgiveness because it's not necessary in order to forgive you. I have to even think about you again. And I'm saying I'm not even going to think about you again. You are gone. [01:06:50] Speaker B: Right. [01:06:51] Speaker A: And so you don't get forgiveness. But you're also not taking up any head space in my life, right. So I think that it's okay if you can just put them out of your energy, away from you, because there are some things that are not forgivable. [01:07:06] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel you on that. [01:07:07] Speaker A: And that's not God, though. God. Don't say that. So you can't be Christian, though. You can't consider yourself a real Christian if you're not willing to at least stand on that tenant. The forgiveness thing is this whole path to salvation. So how in the hell do you get rid of the forgiveness part and still call yourself a Christian? [01:07:29] Speaker B: Maybe it's pseudo Christian. [01:07:35] Speaker A: I'm a Christian. [01:07:40] Speaker B: Christian adjacent. [01:07:41] Speaker A: Christian with A-Y-C-H-R-Y. [01:07:44] Speaker B: We go spell it with a k. [01:07:47] Speaker A: It's like, I got two h's, two s's. Ch. Yeah, just make up some shit. Yeah, that's one of the main tenants. Bro, you're going to have to give up this whole christian act that you're doing. It's not going to work. [01:08:00] Speaker B: It is funny, because I don't know if I've ever put the act on. Right. I think I've tried to do it internally, but I've never done it externally. Right. [01:08:08] Speaker A: Well, if you've never forgiven everybody, you're not. No, you ain't doing it. [01:08:11] Speaker B: Yeah, you're right. And there's some people that I don't. Right. Like, I haven't. But there are some people. It's weird. I don't know, man. No, I think I can. So again, when I say so, to me, that is forgiveness, right? Like what you were talking about, right? [01:08:28] Speaker A: Were you embraced them? No. [01:08:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:08:30] Speaker A: That's not forgiveness. [01:08:31] Speaker B: Like, I don't fuck with you again. So it's not that there's no energy put towards it, right? [01:08:38] Speaker A: They pop back up in your face. How do you feel? See, that's not forgiveness. [01:08:43] Speaker B: No. Hold up again. [01:08:45] Speaker A: You've put them out of your life. You haven't seen them for five years. They pop up in your face and they start like, yo, what's up? You stop calling me, man. What's wrong with you, man? You a bad friend. You're not a good person. And that's what they pushing, these buttons. You're not a good person, dude, I've emailed you, I called you, my number was blocked. Like, you're not a good person broad. [01:09:00] Speaker B: So this is the thing, just as a personal experience, right? I had, growing up the homeboy, that we were real tight, you know what I mean? And this is like through junior high. [01:09:13] Speaker A: High, did you all used to Facetime naked? [01:09:15] Speaker B: We didn't have Facetime at the time, but I called his mom. Mom. I could walk into his house without knocking. I could go to his house without him being there and chill, right? That type of shit, right? I was cool. Me and him were cool like that. [01:09:32] Speaker A: Did you ever lay on his bed on your stomach with your toes up? [01:09:36] Speaker B: No, but I could fuck with the turntables while he wasn't there. He was a DJ. What happened was there was a time where some shit went down, and it wasn't me, right? But the law enforcement said it was me, right? And they were like, listen, all you have to do is they had me already in mind, right? Like, this is it. And they were like, listen, if you just say it's Mac, then you get to go home tonight, right? Like everything, right? And so they were telling me, like, yo, somebody in the car said you did it. And I'm like, that's stupid, right? Because everybody in the car knows I didn't do it. [01:10:18] Speaker A: Did you do it? [01:10:19] Speaker B: No. [01:10:19] Speaker A: Okay, right? [01:10:20] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. It didn't make no sense. Like, this is one of those things where they try to lie to you and think that they're going to get you to say some shit. And I'm like, you guys are. This is dumb. There's nobody in the car that would say this is me knowing that it wasn't me. That's just dumb. Especially this dude, right? Come to find out it was this dude. But now, granted, he had a previous charge that he was fighting right. And so this is the second charge for. [01:10:45] Speaker A: You ain't going to even be no thing. They don't let you out tonight. Yeah, but I got some of my record now. [01:10:49] Speaker B: Right? Exactly right. [01:10:52] Speaker A: That's always been the dumbest argument in the world to me. Like, yo, you a minor. They going to let you go. Yeah, but I got a record now, nigga. So the next time. And some real shit that I did, maybe I don't get off on that one, because the shit that I didn't do, that I'm getting arrested for, so. [01:11:06] Speaker B: Fast forward, like maybe, I don't know, five years. [01:11:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:11:12] Speaker B: And it's funny thing is this motherfucker end up going to prison anyway. [01:11:16] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [01:11:17] Speaker B: Right? Because of the other previous shit and this shit, right. I did not have any issues. Right. Because again, I didn't have a record. Right? So this motherfucker gets out of prison, I'm at a club, and I see this nigga. And street code dictated that snitching, right? Not only did you snitch, but you snitched. A lie. [01:11:45] Speaker A: I didn't even dry snitch. What is that? [01:11:47] Speaker B: I don't even know what kind of snitching. Right. You tried to fuck me up. So it wasn't like it was more, I think, justified that I do something right to handle this. You gave him five. I didn't dap him. [01:12:09] Speaker A: He said, what's up, though? [01:12:10] Speaker B: Yeah, because he was with the other homie, right? So one dude that I was cool with, he was with, right? And so I'm seeing him, and then he's like. And I'm like, yo, so you dapped. [01:12:21] Speaker A: Up one dude and didn't dab the other dude? [01:12:23] Speaker B: Yes. [01:12:23] Speaker A: I don't believe it. [01:12:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:24] Speaker A: And then he knew why he wasn't fucking. [01:12:26] Speaker B: Of course he knew. Of course he knew, right? But again, I didn't get. And obviously I had advanced past that life to where I wasn't in that type of shit no more, right? So the street code wasn't something that I was kind of trying to honor. So it wasn't to me. To me. I think, again, it goes back to understanding. Right? Like you say, shit, I understood that you had a kid. Right. Why you did what you did, because you thought that it was going to help you to extent and not necessarily fuck me. And it didn't fuck me, but it didn't help you. But again, if anybody in that car, they would have told me that that's the thing. When they said it was that guy, I was like, that's hilarious. [01:13:12] Speaker A: No, keep it real. [01:13:13] Speaker B: Okay. [01:13:13] Speaker A: All these niggas talking about no snitching are snitches. [01:13:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. [01:13:17] Speaker A: Come on, man. There are no such thing as no snitches. [01:13:20] Speaker B: No, I've been in a position where I did not snitch. Yeah, not for a dead ass. [01:13:27] Speaker A: But was it real? [01:13:29] Speaker B: No. So, again, was it years? [01:13:31] Speaker A: Yes. [01:13:31] Speaker B: So, listen, in the same situation, the person who actually did do it, I'm in there being blamed for it. I could have easily been like, no, not me. Blah, blah, blah. [01:13:44] Speaker A: Right? [01:13:45] Speaker B: No, there was no way that I was going to do that. And I was willing to do 25 years. It was more probably going to be about, like, seven. Okay, but that's still fucking. Let's be clear. That's fucking too much, especially at 18. [01:13:58] Speaker A: So how come you didn't do it? [01:14:02] Speaker B: The real nigga that who did it didn't feel. He felt some sort on his conscience and he turned himself in. [01:14:09] Speaker A: I just saw that on the other day. Did you all see that Instagram live guy? I can't remember what. Oh, that snitch on all the murders you told. He told. I guess the way they said it was, he started feeling guilty about the people that were in prison for the people he had murdered. So he got on live something. Instagram live or TikTok or something, and started. He had stabbed himself in the chest already. He had a girl in the house with him and a kid or something like that. And so he's just yelling when he gets on Instagram. You don't even know what it's about. It starts in the middle, and he's just, like, going about all these people. Toontom. I killed little toontoom. I stepped on his body. I hit him with the 25. And you all couldn't figure out who it was. That wasn't Sam who killed him. You all got Sam sitting in prison. I did that. I shot him in the head, and I stepped over, and I walked down the street to 35th. And then I hit little Larry. And the reason why I know little Larry, because I shot him in the back. He was trying to run. He fell on the third step. He's, like, giving all these details. And then he goes outside like, yo, fuck you all. You all going to kill me today? I'm going to die today. But before I do, ma'am, let you all know about these murders or whatever. So, I don't know. He may have just been trying to get his homies out because he knew he was over for him or he may have actually had that guilty conscience like your homeboy. [01:15:16] Speaker B: No, some people do have a conscience, right? Sure, there are some people that. Fucking serial killers or whatever the fuck. But I think that, honestly, the majority of the people that take someone else's life, that shit weighs on you. That shit's a weight that most of the time, if you are not a sick sociopath motherfucker, doesn't ever come off. I mean, that's the reason why niggas come back from war fucked up, right? Like, they did some shit for the country that their mind can't conceptualize, right, and can't process, like, why it's okay, how that is ever okay. And even though someone says it was okay, right? Even though you're not being charged, the humanity of it all fucks with you and keeps you up at night and makes it so that you can't sleep. And I think sometimes you just want to get that off you and be like, listen, especially if someone else is suffering for it, right? Like someone else is suffering for your crime, right? You know what I mean? It's like, God damn, I don't deserve. You know what I mean, to be in this position, knowing what I've done. I got to get them out. But they've been punished for it. That's not it right. Now, again, if you know that the person being punished is also a cold blooded killer that got bodies on it, you may not feel that way. But if it's some random ass nigga that didn't do shit, and you're like, man, this nigga was just. He didn't deserve this. Yeah, I think that kind of is what it is. [01:16:52] Speaker A: Forward on the forgiveness thing, I feel like there is a line with me, and up until that line, I can probably figure out how to forgive you. And I'll even give you the information so that you can take it in however that absolves you up to a line, right? But then there's a line where once that is crossed, their chances of forgiveness are out the window, and a lot of it. And I mean so far out the window that they'll never be recovered. Like, there's nothing you could say to me, and that's not Christian, but that's reality to me. I don't know that it's possible to forgive for everything. There are some things that even a person can say that they can never take back enough to be forgiven, right? [01:17:33] Speaker B: I agree. I think that there are certain actions too. So does it matter, right? Like, say two people are in a car doing some shit right. One of them is someone you like, and one of them is someone that you don't like. Right. They both are part of the same act. Right. You forgive one and not the other. [01:17:59] Speaker A: No, that's the same to me. [01:18:01] Speaker B: Okay. [01:18:03] Speaker A: My forgiveness is not based on whether I like you or not. It may play a part. I can't lie. [01:18:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:08] Speaker A: Because I think that for the most part, though, I try to be pretty fair about that kind of stuff, because this is something that's pretty important to me. Grace is important to me because, like I said, I spent a year delving into it and working on it myself and trying to figure out which people that I feel like have ever done me wrong or what situations they've ever done reacted wrong. Could I not necessarily see the perspective of why they did it, but just understand that this is their character. They did something. And now, were they just doing the best that they could, or were they intentionally trying to be deceitful or hurtful or things like that? Right. And then if it was just doing the best they can, that's automatic grace. If there was intentionally hurtful or deceitful. Now, I got to look at it more along the lines of, well, we got to wait this out now. And it just depends on how egregious it is and how damaging it was and what was the cost. There are a few factors that go into it, but I'm not christian in that way. Right. There's no such thing as 100% I'm going to forgive you. [01:19:09] Speaker B: And it's not like the blood is thicker than water thing, so. [01:19:13] Speaker A: That'S not even a thing. Blood is thicker than water. [01:19:16] Speaker B: Okay. [01:19:18] Speaker A: Blood is thicker than water. Figuratives. [01:19:20] Speaker B: Your cousin and one of your ex girlfriends, right? [01:19:24] Speaker A: I guarantee you that if we all tallied up the things that our family members have done, that's fucked up. We would have a front and back and multiple pages compared to the water. [01:19:36] Speaker B: Vegas. [01:19:36] Speaker A: No. Yeah. But compared to the people that don't really know us. Think about it. Think about it right now. The people who have done wrong in your life are people that love you. Yeah. It's not people you don't know. It's not people that randomly in the street stopped you. And like, you know what? I'm a fuck with your life. That does happen. [01:19:50] Speaker B: Right. [01:19:51] Speaker A: But it's so seldom. Most of the people that fuck with you is the blood. Most of the people that do you wrong, it's the blood. And that's why I'm strict with forgiveness. Because a lot of the times when. [01:20:00] Speaker B: We say strict with forgiveness. What does that mean? [01:20:02] Speaker A: I don't really forgive because my thing is we didn't even have to go there. That's my mindset. We never had to even take it that far. And then if you took it this far, I'm like, I can't really fuck with you. That sounds specific. French. We'd have no idea what you're talking about. I'm just saying a lot of the. If any situation that will make me. [01:20:21] Speaker B: Unforgivable to you, especially the other way around. [01:20:26] Speaker A: Unforgiving of. Unforgiving. Yeah. Thanks for that. Unforgiving of you. You're welcome. Most likely, like you said, it's somebody that you know, somebody you care about. Of course it is. And my brain goes, because we have that foundation. You should know better than doing. You should have never even did that. It's easy for me to not forgive you because I'm like, you foul. Because you didn't have to do this. So I can't forgive. That's more of the reasons why I will probably not forgive you. [01:20:54] Speaker B: And that's weird, because I'll forgive the. [01:20:56] Speaker A: Stranger before I forgive. Like the family man. [01:20:58] Speaker B: You're right. Because again, I think as far as me not being truly a Christian, because again, I think, because again, I've spoke on it and I've talked about it, right? Like, if it's fuck me, it's fuck you, then. And, you know, it's fuck you. And I have no way to get away from that. I don't know how not to feel that way. I don't know how not to be like that. It's just been inherent in part of how I am. I've been able to just step away and get away from motherfuckers that I know don't give a fuck about me, right? If you don't give a fuck about me, then it's really hard. But then it's weird because it's the opposite too, right? For the people that I do know that care about me and that love me and that got me, right. It's like I do that as well in return, right? I have that same mentality for those people, right, that I know that fucking are in it for me. I go in for them. They got me. And that's kind of what really fucked me up with this whole back in the day is because I thought that's what me and this dude had, right? I thought that I would fucking kill for you. I would fucking do this shit for you and vice versa, right? And I had a french Reggie awakening. Right. It was not reciprocated. It was not the same. I think that part of that is. But at the same time, I think after the fact, I was like, I remember writing a nigga in prison, and basically, I forgive you letter and shit. Right. Listen, I get it. I understood why you did it. Now, granted, this was the height of my going to church type. [01:22:47] Speaker A: What was the response letter? [01:22:50] Speaker B: I don't think I got one. [01:22:51] Speaker A: Wow. See, as I'm saying, you extended yourself and. [01:22:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't think I got one. [01:22:56] Speaker A: But in the christian sense, that's all you needed. You did your part. [01:22:59] Speaker B: Yeah. And I think that because before that letter, I think I was carrying some shit. How could, after all the shit we've been through, you do this to me like that, right? [01:23:12] Speaker A: You had to write this letter to feel light about the situation. [01:23:16] Speaker B: I did. It was very cathartic. I don't think I ever got a reply. But it did allow me to. [01:23:24] Speaker A: Ugly, man. [01:23:25] Speaker B: It did allow me to let it go and not hold on to it because I was holding on to it, right. Because again, I was like, but see. [01:23:32] Speaker A: That'S different for me. The disrespect lets me go. The disrespect allows me to let it. [01:23:37] Speaker B: No, but see, again, it wasn't about just not. Because again, I wanted to hurt him, right? I wanted revenge. I wanted retribution. That wasn't just letting it go. I wanted to exact some sort of revenge in retribution. You know what I mean? Something like that. [01:23:57] Speaker A: You thought that letter would do that? [01:23:59] Speaker B: No, before the letter. Okay, before the letter, the letter allowed me to not feel that way anymore. But before that, I definitely wanted to be like, look, I got to get back. I got to get some repayment for this betrayal. It cannot be in like this. It can't just be like you think that that's okay and it's just going to go away like that. You have to understand that what you did was not okay. And I got to show you that I'm going to have to make you understand that that wasn't cool. But then again, afterwards, it was like, I don't need to do that no more. [01:24:37] Speaker A: Right? [01:24:37] Speaker B: So, I don't know. [01:24:39] Speaker A: Christian again. No. [01:24:40] Speaker B: But I think what it is, comes down to now that I'm just kind of real time in this, is that if you have that mentality, right, if you have that kind of where you feel like you're holding on to something and you want to hurt people that have hurt you, I think then maybe you do need to forgive them. To kind of release that shit and let it go. But if you don't, for salvation purposes, no, just to not let it burden you. Just to not let you be something that's like, on your mind. [01:25:08] Speaker A: I guess it'll burden me that much. Does it matter if you're cute or ugly? What? [01:25:13] Speaker B: No, I don't think it. [01:25:15] Speaker A: God don't like ugly. So if you're ugly, it don't matter. [01:25:17] Speaker B: What you do, right? [01:25:18] Speaker A: You're going to hell. [01:25:19] Speaker B: You're going to hell. If you are holding on to it, you need to fucking pay for what you did to me. [01:25:26] Speaker A: Right. [01:25:26] Speaker B: And I want to make sure that I see that happen. Then I think you probably need to forgive. [01:25:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:25:33] Speaker B: Because again, I think you're holding on to that energy that is not going to allow you to kind of move forward. I think once you can get past that, like you were talking about fridge, Reggie, where you're just like, I don't give a fuck no more. Whatever it. So nobody's been hurt to the point where you're like, nah, it's not just, okay, I moved on. It's like I want to see something happen. [01:26:00] Speaker A: So for me, the reason why I can move on is the hurt I would want to do. I'll go to jail. So it's not necessarily I'm talking about me. No. So, like, again, if I feel that way, I would want to do something that's going to probably put me to jail. [01:26:13] Speaker B: Violence is so basic. And when you're talking about revenge and retribution, I think there's other. [01:26:21] Speaker A: Well, that's all I think about when it comes to revenge. [01:26:24] Speaker B: No, because again, it wasn't violent. That hurt me. He didn't pose me any violence. Right? Like, he didn't do anything violent to me. [01:26:32] Speaker A: I would have want to WHOOP his ass. [01:26:34] Speaker B: But again, it would be something more like, right. You know what I mean? I don't know. Something that makes you hurt the way that I was hurt. Right. I don't know if violence is always that thing. You know what I mean? [01:26:47] Speaker A: It's probably not. But for me, the reason why I'm. [01:26:49] Speaker B: Able to like fucking your sister or something. You know what I mean? Or something that would make you doggy her out or something. No, come on. Again, maybe if they had a horrible relationship, but what if they were the great relationship, right? You know what I mean? [01:27:07] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess. Your homeboy fucking your system. I feel weird. [01:27:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:10] Speaker A: But I don't know, I guess you could do those things, but for me, it's better for me to just let it go. Because the things I would probably want to do is related to violence. [01:27:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess I get it. I think you're right. Not everybody gets it right. And I think that the biggest part of it is for you. If you feel like you can't let it go, then maybe then forgiveness is something that you need to do in order to release it. But if it's something that you're not tripping on, then I don't know if forgiveness is necessary, because it's not something that's occupying your energy. [01:27:49] Speaker A: Yeah, but people compartmentalize things that come back up later. So it could be not on your mind right now, but it could be something that's buried. And then you get triggered by seeing them in the club with your other homeboy or somebody. You know what I'm saying? Then now it's right back to where you were before, as if it never stopped hurting. [01:28:04] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true, too. [01:28:06] Speaker A: Forgiveness is always better, so. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying that there's a line that I don't care. It doesn't matter. I don't care about the Christianity part of it. There's a line where I'm going to just dismiss it. You know what I'm saying? I'm not even going to be around that energy. [01:28:22] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I get that. [01:28:25] Speaker A: I don't forgive. It's not forgiveness that's turning my back on it. That's like just turning the other direction. So I don't see it almost. Okay? And that sucks. But everything is not forgivable. Just like there's no such thing as conditional love. Excuse me. There's no such thing as unconditional love. That's not a thing. That's not real. [01:28:43] Speaker B: That's not real. [01:28:44] Speaker A: Not even parent to no. Nothing. [01:28:46] Speaker B: Nobody. Do you think Jeffrey Dahmer's parents don't give they. Again, there's things that your kid could do that you'd be like, nah, my nigga, it's a rap. Like, again, that one nigga that fucking in what was, um, in Texas that shot his grandma first. And his parents are like, you just killed my mom. [01:29:05] Speaker A: I just think the natural. Because I feel like the parent. Because the parent brought the kid in. Sure. No. [01:29:11] Speaker B: Again, that bond is definitely much harder to fracture or break than some other bonds. But to say that there's nothing like. [01:29:21] Speaker A: Adolf over there in Germany, right? [01:29:24] Speaker B: Causing so much trouble when he was so young. He just misunderstood. Come on. Just come on home, baby. You always got a place here he. [01:29:31] Speaker A: Just needs his dick sucked. Where his wife at? [01:29:34] Speaker B: Yeah, no, there's certain things that make it so. No, there ain't no comeback. Ain't no get back from that. And I get it. I think we talked about that on the show a long time ago. Yeah, back when smooth was on air. Yeah. There's no such thing as unconditional love. [01:29:50] Speaker A: Hate it for them. But anyway, listeners, we appreciate you guys tuning in once again to the no nonsense show. Make sure you go out to the website. You can check out all the shows on the network. Make sure you're following us on all of our socials. Well, we got anything, guys? [01:30:01] Speaker B: Yeah, no. Where'd you get that little thing? I got to get. [01:30:04] Speaker A: Which little thing? [01:30:05] Speaker B: That clock. [01:30:06] Speaker A: That's a sharper image clock. [01:30:07] Speaker B: That's fucking dope. I've been watching it, and it's one of those things that shout out to sharper image. They always got the gadgets. That's a attention keeper. [01:30:17] Speaker A: Yeah, Kit got me that. And it's actually a couple of minutes. I think it's 2 minutes off. [01:30:21] Speaker B: So, listeners, if you don't know, it's just basically it's words the clock tells you, and it just is randomly moving. That it's like increments, right. That it is blank. 10 minutes to eleven right now is what it's saying. And it just kind of just keeps going. [01:30:37] Speaker A: It looks like a crossword puzzle. If it's turned off, there are letters everywhere. But then certain letters light up. [01:30:43] Speaker B: And right now, not a crossword puzzle, but a word search. [01:30:45] Speaker A: Word search, yeah. And so it says right now, the letters that are lit are. It is 10 minutes to eleven. But that's all spread out all over the cube. [01:30:54] Speaker B: And it's constantly moving as time moves, and it's pretty dope. It's caught my eye, and I got to give me one of them sharper interviews. [01:31:03] Speaker A: Hey, look, but keep supporting us, keep interacting with us, and we'll keep bringing the nonsense because we realize that sometimes people just need to laugh. Till next time, 10% less bullshit than. [01:31:12] Speaker B: Any other podcast, guaranteed. Dam.