Episode 837

October 08, 2024

00:59:20

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The No Nonsense Show - A Funny Experiment In Black Experience
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The No Nonsense Show Episode #837

 French Reggy wants to discuss all of the variations. Helpful Hint: Neve take an extened car ride with French...Unless you want to become a variation.

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: The views and opinions expressed by the. [00:00:01] Speaker B: No nonsense show and its host do. [00:00:02] Speaker C: Not necessarily reflect views consistent with political. [00:00:05] Speaker A: Correctness or the rare sonics podcast network. So, to get the show started right, we want to wish any officers of the sensitivity police a heartfelt fuck you. [00:00:13] Speaker C: You know what, man? I. I have a question for the lgbt community. [00:00:18] Speaker A: Uh oh. [00:00:20] Speaker B: Plus, don't forget that. Plus, you over at discount. Hell of Em. [00:00:23] Speaker A: Cause allies are mad everywhere. [00:00:25] Speaker B: There's a whole bunch of initials. [00:00:26] Speaker A: No, no offense. They're having hissy fits. [00:00:45] Speaker B: You are listening to the no nonsense show. 10% less bullshit than any other podcast, guaranteed. [00:00:52] Speaker C: Cause when I observe the community, I look at, you know, gay men. There's different. [00:00:57] Speaker B: I bet you did. [00:00:59] Speaker C: There's different variations. There's feminine gay men. There's Jim bro's gay, Mendezhe came in. There's, like, niggas that. [00:01:05] Speaker A: What, what. [00:01:05] Speaker C: What gym? Guys like, niggas that be buff and slow, but they're. They're gay. You know, there's different very variations of guys that are gay. There's a feminine gay guy that's, like, Saucy Santana, but there's a regular guy. You. [00:01:19] Speaker B: The fact you know these dudes names. [00:01:22] Speaker A: Which class are you? [00:01:23] Speaker B: Which one are you Saucy Santana? Like, I don't even want to know anymore. But I do. I'm not. [00:01:29] Speaker A: Like, I'm hoping that's a rapper. [00:01:30] Speaker C: Yeah, so he's a rapper. Influencer. [00:01:33] Speaker A: Rapper influencer. [00:01:34] Speaker B: Come on. [00:01:36] Speaker A: Back in the day, rapper was good enough. [00:01:38] Speaker B: Nah, you came. [00:01:39] Speaker C: He's more of an influencer. But he be rapping, too. [00:01:41] Speaker B: No, no, no, there's no. Listen, I don't know any gay rapper that is pro, you know, like, pro. Like, I'm out here gay rapping that the rap, the culture is finna fall behind. Like, that's just not gonna happen unless it's the LBG. [00:01:54] Speaker A: What about Frank Ocean? [00:01:55] Speaker B: He wasn't a rapper. [00:01:57] Speaker A: Yeah, he was the only nigga that ever held a tune in his whole group. Everybody else was a rapper. [00:02:02] Speaker B: Yeah, but, yeah, he's a singer, though, right? [00:02:04] Speaker A: Yeah, but he's. But. [00:02:06] Speaker B: But who do you beat up, though, too? [00:02:08] Speaker A: Who'd he beat up? Chris Brown. [00:02:09] Speaker B: I think he beat up Chris Brown. He beat it somebody, right? Like, he gave somebody hands. But, I mean, I'm not fighting. I'm gay, but catch these hands. [00:02:18] Speaker A: Yeah, you got to be careful. Cause you never know, like, if you losing is. Has bigger stakes sometimes, you know what I'm saying? Like, if you lose, not just to the fact that you got beat by a gay dude, but you might be powerless. [00:02:29] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Not right. He go ahead and do a diddy on your ass. [00:02:33] Speaker A: Indoctrination. [00:02:34] Speaker B: He did your ass. [00:02:35] Speaker C: But all I'm saying is, when I see gay men, there's different variations of gay men. Right. It's not just one subcategory. [00:02:42] Speaker A: I'm not sure I want to have the gay variation conversation with you. [00:02:45] Speaker C: But with the lesbians, I'm confused because I feel like dykes only take one category, and it's street niggers. There's never a dike that's just like a regular working nigga prototype. It's always like a street nigger prototype. And the way I find that out was I was in fucking Costa Rica, and I'm looking at the dykes there, and I'm like, why they dress like niggas? Like, like, why they gotta be. And even if you look at white girls out of dykes, it's always the bad boy look. It's not like a regular look. Yeah. Always have to be the bad boy look. [00:03:20] Speaker A: But that in that kind of the. That's like the fake out of this. So what I've noticed is they've been trying to make men softer. [00:03:28] Speaker C: Okay. [00:03:28] Speaker A: I mean, I didn't notice that. I think everybody. [00:03:30] Speaker C: Yeah, you know, it's definitely a true observation. [00:03:31] Speaker A: Um, but even though they've been doing that, women aren't dating differently. [00:03:38] Speaker C: Oh, so because they like the bad boys. [00:03:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:40] Speaker A: They don't want no soft ass nigga. Nobody does. Gay or straight. Nobody wants that nigga. Right. So even though they're trying to soften men up, the girls are still choosing a certain kind of guy, has a certain kind of assertiveness, a certain kind of. You know, they. They have to be a little dangerous. You don't want no safe ass dude like, you want. You want a safe dude when you're worried about somebody cheating on you, but you don't want a safe dude when he's fucking you. [00:04:07] Speaker C: Yeah. But I guess it's funny. Cause if you're a dude and you're not a street nigger, last thing you want to do is look like a street nigga. [00:04:15] Speaker A: Not necessarily a street nigga, but you gotta have a certain edge, though. For instance, French. You're very good at this. I'm gonna use you give me the idea of what the ideal man looks like. And I'm saying ideal, meaning the top, like, this is the biggest. [00:04:33] Speaker B: Not what you would choose, just. Well, yeah. [00:04:37] Speaker C: A tall man. Okay, tall. Well, tall man. Good hair. [00:04:40] Speaker A: Good hair. [00:04:41] Speaker B: Oh, you know, that's right. Go for hide your ass. Fucking Jay swoove. [00:04:50] Speaker C: Fit body. [00:04:51] Speaker A: Okay. [00:04:52] Speaker B: Tall you out. Jay swoo. [00:04:53] Speaker A: They're all tall, athletic or fit. [00:04:56] Speaker C: And then the last thing is the facial feature. Gotta have, like, strong jawline. Like, strong jawline. [00:05:02] Speaker B: Like he could take a punch. [00:05:03] Speaker A: Strong jawline. [00:05:05] Speaker C: I think that's the four. Four characteristics. The rest. [00:05:07] Speaker A: So not wealthy. That has. [00:05:09] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah. Money, for sure. Wealth. [00:05:11] Speaker A: Okay. [00:05:11] Speaker C: But, so. [00:05:13] Speaker A: But cracking up. Oh, he'll do this. He'll go all the way in, too. You want to ask him a question? Locks. Anything you want to know. Gay as it can be. He'll still answer it. There's never been a question. He has an answer. [00:05:26] Speaker C: It's only gay until you start doing some shit with a dude, man. That's how I look at it. Right. [00:05:29] Speaker A: Believe that or not. Oh, wow. So do you have a question? [00:05:33] Speaker C: It's only gay if you act on it. [00:05:35] Speaker A: It's only gay if you. [00:05:36] Speaker C: Only gay if you do some. Gay. [00:05:38] Speaker A: Well, no, that's a question. So french. Is it gay if you don't act on it? [00:05:41] Speaker C: If you don't act on it? No, there's nothing gay. [00:05:45] Speaker B: You got to act on it to. [00:05:46] Speaker C: Be able to do it. [00:05:48] Speaker A: So if you dream about dicks all day long but you don't act on it, you're cool. [00:05:52] Speaker C: You have a thought that needs to be thought about. But you're not gay yet. You're not gay yet. Might need to go on a road trip to figure that out. [00:06:01] Speaker A: Right? Not with you, though. [00:06:02] Speaker B: No, he's handed, like, come on. [00:06:04] Speaker A: He's trying to get somebody on the road trip. [00:06:05] Speaker B: Like, I'll take you on the road and you get that shit straight. We'll get you straight. [00:06:08] Speaker A: What do you get out of the road trips? Friends. [00:06:10] Speaker C: It only happened twice with two. [00:06:11] Speaker A: What do you get out of the road trips? [00:06:13] Speaker C: True friendship. [00:06:14] Speaker B: Mmm. [00:06:14] Speaker C: True friendship. How's that. How's that a face, to be honest. [00:06:18] Speaker A: What does that mean? That can mean a lot if you. [00:06:20] Speaker C: Had a gay homie that was struggling with coming out. [00:06:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:24] Speaker C: It was able to come out because y'all was on a road trip and you just had a lot of time to talk. Yeah, I feel like our friendship. [00:06:30] Speaker A: So I think I called the episode the gay maker. I think you're the gay whisperer. If you bring in motherfuckers slowly out the closet, like, you know, take your time. Here, just put 1ft out. I got you. I'm out here. Trust me. [00:06:40] Speaker B: Listen, this is. [00:06:42] Speaker C: I look at as friendship, man. [00:06:43] Speaker B: I'm safe right here. Like, you could. You could. You could. [00:06:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm safe. Like, do you ever massage them into gayness or is it always a car trip? [00:06:51] Speaker B: Is it always. Just is always vocal? [00:06:54] Speaker C: It's a conversation. [00:06:55] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:06:56] Speaker C: But so you say that. Dikes. It's not a look. What you mean? [00:07:00] Speaker B: Like, you know, you get a look. You know me. You look at. He look at you and then you look at him and it's like that it's okay to be gay, you know? I mean, like, I don't mind if you gay. [00:07:11] Speaker A: Right? [00:07:12] Speaker B: And we look, we out of town. You know what they say about out of town. Like, what's the. What's the mileage of, like, 50 miles? Like, it ain't cheating or whatever. I don't know what the cheating. I'm just assuming. [00:07:23] Speaker A: Dude, you gonna suck the poison out. [00:07:25] Speaker B: I just. Simply because fridge. Reggie's in a relationship, you know, like. [00:07:29] Speaker A: Oh, right. [00:07:29] Speaker B: So you can't. They gotta be bound. [00:07:31] Speaker A: How does that work? What does your girl think about you whispering, helping. Helping men. [00:07:36] Speaker B: Men helping men. Well, isn't that a group? Isn't that, like, are you a part of being. [00:07:43] Speaker C: Helping your friend? Cause usually around that age when if you had a homie that was gay and struggling to come out and then he came out to you, you would probably make fun of him. But the fact that I was there for my friend, you know, she's like. [00:07:54] Speaker A: You'Re a good guy. [00:07:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:55] Speaker A: So would she allow you to help women come back from being gay? [00:08:00] Speaker C: Yeah, she trusts me. [00:08:01] Speaker A: Okay. [00:08:02] Speaker C: If they're gay, they don't gotta do nothing. [00:08:04] Speaker B: No, no, no. Yeah. [00:08:05] Speaker A: This Troy's bringing them back. [00:08:06] Speaker B: Yeah. They realize they're not gay no more, right. That was a fate she just might. [00:08:10] Speaker C: Have to join, you know? [00:08:11] Speaker A: Whoa. [00:08:12] Speaker B: I like this new french reg. I ain't gonna lie. I like this new french reg. When this nigga. When Rio was on the show, french reg revealed some new shit. [00:08:21] Speaker A: Which thing I don't remember. [00:08:22] Speaker B: Well, the fact that he's. This is his. What he's talking about right now is something that he's open to. And obviously him and gee money have discussed. [00:08:30] Speaker A: Oh, right. [00:08:30] Speaker B: You know, that this is, you know, part of maybe a new chapter in their relationship. [00:08:35] Speaker A: He's not gonna save by himself now. They're a saving couple. [00:08:38] Speaker B: Yeah. And before, though, he was totally adverse. [00:08:41] Speaker C: He was never adverse. [00:08:42] Speaker B: You were totally averse. [00:08:43] Speaker A: I think he learned that soul ties dies when you die. It doesn't. [00:08:47] Speaker B: No, I don't want. You said you don't want. No, other girl. [00:08:51] Speaker C: I was never adverse. I was just saying that. The thing is, I wanted. I didn't want to be a hypocrite if my girl lets me have my fun. [00:08:58] Speaker A: So now you're willing to let her. [00:08:59] Speaker C: Have her fun, but she says she doesn't. She don't want to do shit. [00:09:02] Speaker B: That's never been any different than anybody else. Any other relationship that. Where a girl doesn't want any other dude. She's just in the girls. [00:09:08] Speaker C: But when we were having that conversation, we was. We didn't have all those filters. All we were saying, like, you didn't. [00:09:14] Speaker B: You the one that want to keep dudes in the picture? [00:09:16] Speaker C: Well, no, I was just saying I. [00:09:17] Speaker A: Don'T have the conversation. [00:09:19] Speaker C: Yeah, I just. I said that as a. I didn't want to be a hypocrite if my girl is down. Because the thing is, some girls will be like, I'll let you fuck other girls. [00:09:25] Speaker B: Some girls. [00:09:27] Speaker C: When we were having that conversation, I was being accounted for that. I was accounted for that. [00:09:31] Speaker A: What if in five years, she says, you know, going back on what we were talking about, I didn't used to want to. [00:09:36] Speaker B: Right? [00:09:37] Speaker C: And I'm watching because I did bring that up. [00:09:39] Speaker B: You've been having all this fun. [00:09:40] Speaker A: I'm not gonna change my mind. How do you know you're not gonna change your mind? [00:09:44] Speaker C: She says. [00:09:45] Speaker B: She said, you up before I tell you, you got promise you not gonna get mad. [00:09:50] Speaker A: This only girl thing is not working for me, and you've already got five. [00:09:53] Speaker B: It's cool, right? But I just seen you. You the only one kidding. You catching all the waves. I feel like I'm missing out on a way set up. [00:10:03] Speaker A: Okay, I'm sorry. [00:10:04] Speaker C: Yeah, so. So you're saying that the dice are making up for it? Cause they have to be. [00:10:09] Speaker A: I'm saying, yeah, I got you to pick your ideal mandy. And he had a strong jawline. You know what I'm saying? Like, even for you, you need a guy. [00:10:16] Speaker C: The thing that confuses me, if you're a girl that you like girls, like, don't you want something? I never understood that in the gay community. [00:10:22] Speaker B: Well, this is. The girls fucked up that way. And I've talked about it, right? Like this, and I've brought it up. It's like, okay. It's when the gay guys are pretending to be girls, they are, like, the worst. Like, no dude wants a girl like that. [00:10:38] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't like girl. [00:10:41] Speaker B: You have. [00:10:41] Speaker A: I think French Reggie has friends that would think of. [00:10:44] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Like, nobody wants a girl. That is the way you behave, my nigga. Like, that's. That's. That's the fact that you think that's what women are is funny. But then conversely, when a woman. A woman is imitating or, you know, trying to do their impersonation of a man, it's always skewed, right? And it's just, you know, wife beater fucking, you know, chain wallet, you know, bitch. Like, you know, like, oh, you do. [00:11:11] Speaker A: Know every lesbian is nothing. Every lesbian couple doesn't have one of those in it. [00:11:15] Speaker B: We're just talking about the dice. We're not talking about. [00:11:17] Speaker A: But you know that every lesbian couple doesn't have a dike. [00:11:20] Speaker B: Yeah, no, we're just talking about the dice. Yeah. The lipstick lesbians are, you know, they're french. [00:11:24] Speaker A: You know, he knows the word. What's the word? French? [00:11:25] Speaker C: Femmes. [00:11:26] Speaker A: They're two femmes. [00:11:26] Speaker B: Okay. [00:11:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:28] Speaker B: You know, I just call them lipstick lesbians. You know, they wears. They still dress and act like a woman, but they fuck other women. But the dikes. [00:11:35] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:11:35] Speaker B: You know, dikes on bikes, you know, I mean, that. That whole group, you know, but isn't. [00:11:39] Speaker A: But I'm thinking. But what I'm saying is that word. [00:11:41] Speaker C: Is that I. Dykes. [00:11:44] Speaker A: Yeah. When you say dyke, you don't. You're not talking about two lipstick lesbians or femmes or whatever. When you say dyke, I think you're talking about that. Yeah. [00:11:52] Speaker B: Yeah, no, for sure. [00:11:52] Speaker A: Many fresh look like. Many fresh. [00:11:54] Speaker B: Right? And. But that's the point. Like, they all have that same. [00:11:58] Speaker C: Yeah, they have a prototype. Many fresh. Or a light skinned street nigger. [00:12:02] Speaker B: Like. And it's. It's both ways. Right? Because, like, just. [00:12:09] Speaker C: But even in other races, too, like, even in, like, a Mexican. [00:12:12] Speaker B: Like. [00:12:12] Speaker C: Like, they'll dress like a street nigga. [00:12:14] Speaker B: What was the second nigga that you brought out the closet fridge? [00:12:18] Speaker A: It wasn't. [00:12:19] Speaker C: It was Tim. [00:12:20] Speaker B: Yeah, right. So Tim, he doesn't. Tim don't walk around like RuPaul or, you know, I mean, these other niggas that like, oh, girlfriend. Or does he. I don't know. [00:12:29] Speaker A: He don't even like nut. [00:12:30] Speaker C: Yeah. He was the way he was on the show. That's how he is. [00:12:33] Speaker B: Right? So just like that, there's gay people that are just normal, right? [00:12:38] Speaker A: Averse to nut. [00:12:39] Speaker B: Right? And then there's, you know, there's gay women that are normal. But then on the edges, you have these, you know, the same as flamboyant. You have these. These paraders, right? I'll call them paraders because they're the ones. Yeah, they're the ones out. That are out in the parade. That french registers. Like, where's that? Where's that, uh, crosswalk? You know, I want to go take a picture. You know, like, where you just are out extra tough. Like, your outness is really what you're all about more than just being gay. Like, it's. [00:13:09] Speaker C: And I can't just be gay, but I really heard in the gay community. But, yeah, I feel like they're the ones that give them a bad name because they're like. [00:13:17] Speaker B: They're like the black people that Gregor was talking about. [00:13:20] Speaker A: I'm not sure what French's role in this planet is. Like. He sounds like the advocate for regular gay people now. He's like, yo, they're hurting our community. He just didn't say our, but he's almost. [00:13:30] Speaker B: It is our. Cause he's in there. He's an a. He's an a. He's a self admitted. [00:13:34] Speaker C: Ay, right? [00:13:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:37] Speaker C: You can't be a. [00:13:38] Speaker B: Come on, bro. Don't act like you don't know what you is. [00:13:44] Speaker A: You don't know the letters, right? Sure. [00:13:46] Speaker B: I don't know if they got duplicate a's. Like, it's just the a. You the a, bro. [00:13:50] Speaker A: So what is the. Give me the topic. What. What is it? The point? [00:13:54] Speaker C: I just think that. I just don't like that the thing gotta be a street nigger. I feel like it's really street nigga. Like, you could look hardcore. Look like a bike nigga, look like a bike rider. [00:14:06] Speaker B: Like the bikers with the. [00:14:08] Speaker C: But it's all chain wallets and make a look. The white beard, long tee. [00:14:13] Speaker A: And why do you think that is? Lack of originality works for guys. [00:14:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:22] Speaker C: Yeah. It was just weird seeing niggas in Costa. Dykes in Costa Rica looking like street niggas. [00:14:27] Speaker A: What I don't understand. What I don't understand, though, is. Is women wouldn't accept that from a dude. [00:14:33] Speaker B: Right? [00:14:34] Speaker A: If you aren't that nigga, stop pretending to be that nigga. [00:14:37] Speaker B: Right. [00:14:37] Speaker A: And the problem with all of them is they all. It's very hard to be that nigga. Cause you're not even a nigga. [00:14:42] Speaker B: Right. They all pretended. Yeah, that's. [00:14:44] Speaker A: Yeah, but pretending to the point where it's, like, delusional. [00:14:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:48] Speaker A: Like, if you came to stuff, like, if you approached a nerdy guy, right, he's gonna fuck you up. You know what I'm saying? Like, the nerdy guy is gonna whoop. [00:14:56] Speaker B: Your ass if y'all fought Cumberland moss style. [00:15:00] Speaker A: So it's delusional, though. My problem, then, is not necessarily that woman and why she wants to look like that, but the woman who decides to be with her, what is she getting out of it? Cause it's not protection. [00:15:11] Speaker C: They be tricking. [00:15:13] Speaker A: Yeah, okay, okay. [00:15:14] Speaker C: The dikes be tricking. [00:15:15] Speaker B: Yeah, but you could trick. You could get a dike that tricks that got a suit on, and it would be more inclined and look like you trick because you dress for business. [00:15:24] Speaker A: I'm talking more along about the other line of the world, the two worlds that are going on. Right. So, you know, there's the one way, but then there's that other way. What happens when that other way shows up and you got a girlfriend for a boyfriend? [00:15:35] Speaker C: When a real street nigga show up, whatever. Give up everything they about to rob you for. Stay here. Take it. You would do that, too, if he was a real nigga. [00:15:43] Speaker A: No. My point is, though, is the woman who's choosing to be. If they're choosing be with that. That woman, that is like street. What happens when real street shows up? When the real world happens? You know what I'm saying? Like, cuz, I mean, you know, being with a woman just because she's a woman or whatever is not the same thing as being with somebody. I think what you're talking about is, like, that affectation, flamboyance, right? [00:16:06] Speaker B: Thugginess. Yeah. [00:16:07] Speaker A: So what we all know as being men is when you are that man, you attract that kind of shit. So what happens if you're. If you're the woman who's decided to be with a woman who's super thugged out and real thug shows up, or real. That real energy shows up, the energy you're. You're pretending to put out when that real energy shows up. I don't understand how women even want to be with that. Because at the end of the day, we all know that you not really street nigga. You might have some street shit, but you're only as strong as the strongest woman doing street shit. And if a nerd came, he would have more power than you. [00:16:44] Speaker B: Right? [00:16:45] Speaker A: And no matter how good you are at fighting or how many of your brother, me and my brother used to fight, right. What happens? [00:16:50] Speaker B: I should spar with Ronda Rousey? [00:16:52] Speaker A: What happens then? That's what I'm scared about with that. Cause, you know, with the dudes. Like, the dudes act super flamboyant. Like, they're still dudes. And if you fight one of them. [00:17:02] Speaker B: Right, if you like girl, don't step outside, bitch. You're like, okay. Like, that nigga fit a beat your. [00:17:09] Speaker A: Ass if you fight one of them. As a man, you already know. Like, yo, I know this dude acts kind of sissified, but he still can hit me in the right time. And this nigga still got grown man strength, but it's not the same way the other round of way around. So I'm wondering what the girl who's with that super thug lesbian is feeling. [00:17:28] Speaker C: That's probably why they always get played by those girls. [00:17:30] Speaker A: I heard they get their ass beat, though. I heard there's a lot of violent violence. [00:17:33] Speaker C: I heard there's a lot of violence. Lesbian community, both the same gender. [00:17:41] Speaker A: Yeah, but, yeah, but, right, but imagine you hate. So, like, you hate your dude, right? Your dude is always fucking you up. But if another dude stepped to him, there's a chance he might beat that dude that's trying to help you. Ain't no chance that that girl is going to be able to fight no nigga. And it's just not a chance that. [00:17:56] Speaker B: You guys just brought up that point. And I would say, you know, that attributes to the same thing I was just talking about as far as the. The portrayal. Like, the. The imitation is off. Like, again, that's. You think that that's what a man is like, you know, I guess. And, you know, if you listen to the Sean Connery fucking, you know, interviews and shit like that, you might think, you know, you just smack your bitch when she get out of line. You know what I mean? Like, this is what you do, you know? I mean, and so that's what guys do, right? This is what guys do. And so this is why you are snatching her up by her hair and, you know, but at the same time, y'all both are on the same plane, but you playing a role, so you got to play this role. And this is what part of that role is. You know, you. You. You roughing her up, and this is what it is. And that's got to be the reason why there's a lot of what you claim on is, you know, domestic abuse in the fucking. [00:18:48] Speaker A: No, I've heard that, too. Why do you say claim? You know? You don't believe him? I think he's. [00:18:52] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know. Because, again, like, you don't know. [00:18:54] Speaker A: Who would know? [00:18:54] Speaker B: I mean, he. Again, he just. He just. He threw out, like, generational. He started this whole week about generational timelines and shit a couple weeks ago. Like, you know, I mean, like, in. [00:19:04] Speaker A: Generation would you rather be the gangster? Me? [00:19:06] Speaker B: No. [00:19:07] Speaker A: Okay, well, then let him have it. Yeah, you argue. This thing is expertise. Like, make up your mind, bro. What you gonna do? You gonna meet. It's me. Are we gonna let him continue doing it? And if so, let's let him be. [00:19:17] Speaker B: I'll fall back. I'll fall back. You got that? [00:19:22] Speaker A: No, but my problem, my. My advice, though, is you ain't gotta go so hard. You ain't got to be so manny fresh, like, pull it back a little bit and just be a regular lesbian that, you know, you make it. You might be. You might be more masculine than other women. That's fine. But it's that super thug what I think French is talking about. That doesn't work anywhere. And I don't even know how girls would want to be with that. [00:19:44] Speaker B: Remember when we had the. The video back in the day on the show when they were having, like, a lesbian contest of who was the most manliest? And the beard, these bitches was growing full beards. I mean, like, I. [00:19:58] Speaker A: Like. [00:19:58] Speaker B: Wait, I mean, like me. [00:19:59] Speaker A: Think of their french. [00:20:00] Speaker B: Reggie, am I like, no. Fake. [00:20:05] Speaker A: Turkey. [00:20:06] Speaker B: They was doing something. And these. These bras. I mean, in some of them, low key. Like, fuck high key, nigga. You look at them like, that's a chick. [00:20:16] Speaker A: No, but she's still getting her ass. [00:20:17] Speaker B: No, of course she's still getting her ass. Whoop. But you. At first glance. Yeah, first glance that look like a dude, bro. Like that. [00:20:24] Speaker A: Matter of fact, that couple that was, they switched, and the guy got pregnant. And the woman, she used to be a girl, but she's a guy. That girl looked like a guy. [00:20:33] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And she looked like a dude. For real. And the one who won, I was like, oh, my nigga. [00:20:38] Speaker A: Like, bro, imagine being the replacement. Like, you know, the doctor. Their doctor was on vacation. And you was covered for your doctor. And you get the call, you like, yo, you show up and it's a nigga with a beard laying in bed with his legs spread open with a. [00:20:51] Speaker B: Swole belly to my. [00:20:52] Speaker A: Whoa, what are we doing? [00:20:54] Speaker B: Swole belly? [00:20:55] Speaker A: What the fuck? [00:20:56] Speaker B: That. That was a whole episode of fucking. Was it the blacklist? The bitch was hijacking people and giving them wombs and. And in platinum with artificial babies. And it was nice guys, and it was like, preachers. You know, anybody who was anti abortion. [00:21:12] Speaker A: How much would you do that for? What's your number? [00:21:15] Speaker B: Um. [00:21:17] Speaker A: What's your number? [00:21:17] Speaker B: I start off at a mill. [00:21:18] Speaker A: A million? [00:21:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I do it for a mil? [00:21:20] Speaker A: I don't think I can give you a me. What'd you do, for instance? [00:21:22] Speaker C: For what exactly? [00:21:23] Speaker A: I did. Mother. I need you to be my surrogate mother. [00:21:28] Speaker B: You get. You get in a womb and a baby planted in you, you gotta pay. [00:21:31] Speaker C: Me more than a mill. [00:21:32] Speaker A: Yeah, come on. For a baby. [00:21:34] Speaker B: Hella bougie. [00:21:35] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:21:44] Speaker B: Like, who cares about that, Scarlet? [00:21:46] Speaker A: No girls getting to meet. How much is. What's the real number? [00:21:49] Speaker C: But if I'm a dude, being the. [00:21:50] Speaker A: No, you're not a dude. [00:21:51] Speaker B: You're. You. [00:21:52] Speaker A: What's the number? [00:21:52] Speaker C: I'm a dude. [00:21:53] Speaker A: What's the number? [00:21:55] Speaker B: He said it's more than a million. [00:21:56] Speaker A: You know? It's not a million. Stop it. What's the number? [00:21:59] Speaker B: Real talk, like, I listen. So. Cause again, it's. We're talking about ten months, right? Ten months of work, sure. [00:22:06] Speaker C: Of pregnancy. [00:22:07] Speaker B: Ten months of work and some pain locks. [00:22:09] Speaker A: You got a number? What's your number, man? What's the number? To be impregnated and be a surrogate. [00:22:13] Speaker B: You didn't talk me down. Use a good old. Use a good old, like, cash money. [00:22:16] Speaker A: Yeah, me. It's ridiculous. That's not gonna happen. [00:22:18] Speaker B: I mean, right off the bat, I said million, but I do it for half. I mean, ain't gonna lie. [00:22:23] Speaker A: That's not gonna happen. 500 is too. That's not. [00:22:27] Speaker C: Because the real sergeants are paying 40,000, right? 50. [00:22:30] Speaker B: Right. [00:22:31] Speaker C: So the most you get. [00:22:32] Speaker B: But they already. They're already built for that. [00:22:34] Speaker A: And everybody. [00:22:37] Speaker B: Now you're. You're fucking an experiment. [00:22:40] Speaker C: They don't even know if it's gonna work on me. [00:22:42] Speaker B: You're doing me like the motherfucking the bonnet, man. [00:22:44] Speaker A: What if I'm saying it's positive? There's no issue. We've already saw this. This has been done now many times. You're not the first one. What's your number? Stop crying. [00:22:56] Speaker B: Z's like, look. [00:22:58] Speaker A: What's your number? What's your number? [00:23:05] Speaker C: Mostly when she did one of our kids, I think that lady, that's Kim Kardashian. [00:23:10] Speaker A: Regular nigga. Shit is, nobody can afford 200. That's too much. Let's be realistic. [00:23:14] Speaker C: But it's usually around forty k. Forty k. Fifty. [00:23:16] Speaker A: Sixty seven. [00:23:17] Speaker B: You do for 40 for a year, though. I mean, for ten months. [00:23:20] Speaker A: Well, what are you gonna do this for? 80. 80? Okay. What you got friends? [00:23:25] Speaker C: 150 at least. That way I can put a nice down payment on you. [00:23:30] Speaker B: Gonna have doctor bills after that. You got this stretch mark. You know what? No. [00:23:33] Speaker A: I'm taking care of doctor bills. I'm taking care of all doctor. [00:23:36] Speaker C: 150. [00:23:37] Speaker B: You gonna. You gonna have to cross your legs to pee. This takeover, when you sneeze, this is just your takeover. [00:23:41] Speaker C: 150. [00:23:43] Speaker A: What you got, Mac? You said, come on, a million, right? [00:23:45] Speaker B: No, I dropped down to five, but now. [00:23:47] Speaker A: Too much. [00:23:47] Speaker B: I know. Listen, like, I mean, if I was give you $100,000. Yeah. That's four years work, you know, mean. Cuz again, I'm gonna. [00:23:53] Speaker A: $100,000. You'll do it? [00:23:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:55] Speaker A: Okay. [00:23:55] Speaker B: For a hundred and I get naming rights. [00:24:01] Speaker A: Yeah, but we're not gonna cut it out, though. You got to do it annually. [00:24:04] Speaker B: No, now we're going back to a fuck that. Like, bro, listen. French friends, stop. He's like, we took a meal. Like, no, bro. Like, there's not a. There's not a price. Yeah, Richard get his ass ripped for a meal. That's. That's what I learned. So let me. You know, people. I saw some shit on the Internet the other day. Or actually, I maybe was a show. I can't remember, but it was. Someone was saying, like, people don't change, right? People are who they always been, right. And they always will be that way. And it was the whole scorpion, you know, and the frog story. [00:24:48] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:24:49] Speaker B: You know, everybody's heard that, right? [00:24:50] Speaker A: The parable. [00:24:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:51] Speaker A: Where the. We'll just tell it. [00:24:54] Speaker B: So there's a frog in the scorpion are on a shoreline. And he's like, listen, man, take me across. And he's like, nah, bro. The scorpions asking the frog to take him across. And he's like, no, I'm not gonna take you across, man. Cuz. You're fucking scorpion. The score. Yeah, the scorpions. The frog is saying, I'm not taking you across, bro. You can't get on my back. And I'm not gonna take you across the river because I know you. You're a fucking scorpion. You're gonna fucking sting me and you're gonna kill me. And he's like, no, no, no, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. You know, any. Basically, they talk it through. He convinces the frog to say, hey, listen, okay, I'm not gonna do that. Frog says, all right, get on my back. They start getting across the fucking thing. He stings the frog and they both die, right? They both drown. And he's like, well, what the fuck? He's like, what did you expect me? I'm a scorpion. This is what I do. Like, I just think things like, I got a fucking stinger for a reason. A reason. This is just all I do. I sting shit. And so the thing is, is like, people are gonna be who they are in essence, right? Like, you can't expect anything to be different than its nature. I don't know if I sign on to that. I want to ask you, do y'all agree with that? Can you, can the scorpion be anything else besides the scorpion can, and I'm using that as a, you know, example for people in life. Can somebody be something other than what they've been before they met you? Like when you, when you meet someone and they like everybody's love running up to you, like, don't fuck with that motherfucker. They are XYZ. Is they always gonna be XYZ? You can't you. So then you just write them off because they're fucking XYZ. And that's all they've ever been to anybody else up to this point. Or do you allow people to change? Or do you think people can change? [00:26:28] Speaker C: For me, I allow people to change. [00:26:30] Speaker B: Because we've seen, of course, I mean, like, that's the road. That's what the road trip is all about. [00:26:34] Speaker A: Somebody turning. [00:26:37] Speaker B: Like you. You've seen the most change. People, humans and human nature. [00:26:41] Speaker C: But I, but at the same time, just from life experience, most people won't change, but people have the ability to change. But I don't think most will. [00:26:51] Speaker A: What does that even mean? [00:26:52] Speaker B: He's on the both sides of the fence like this, straddling that bitch. [00:26:57] Speaker C: I just, I think, I think on average, 60% of people won't change a number. But it's not 40%. [00:27:08] Speaker B: I told you, this is where I be challenging is, is his number, because he'll come out with some just off life observations. [00:27:15] Speaker C: I'm looking at it like, I'm just like, cuz there's some people that have changed. There's some people you meet along the time that, oh, damn, that nigga did change. I think I used to be this way. Now he's no longer like these more focused, blah, blah, blah. This thing that happened to enforce him to change or disavit, whatever. But there's some people like, oh, he's still doing the same shit, you know? So I think, I don't get this. [00:27:36] Speaker A: I don't get this because everybody's constantly changing. [00:27:39] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I. [00:27:41] Speaker A: You can't not change. [00:27:44] Speaker B: So you can't stay the same. [00:27:45] Speaker C: So what? [00:27:46] Speaker A: So, no, I think that's a stupid saying. What does that saying mean? I think it's just one of those things that we've just decided to keep saying. [00:27:52] Speaker C: The scorpion thing or don't change. [00:27:54] Speaker A: People can't change. [00:27:55] Speaker B: So, example, you called me the other day. [00:27:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:58] Speaker B: About a friend that we have. That's a pussygrass. [00:28:01] Speaker A: Yes. [00:28:01] Speaker B: And he's like, no, I'm not. And I'm like, well, maybe he isn't anymore. [00:28:05] Speaker A: Right? [00:28:05] Speaker B: But you definitely, at one point, you definitely have been. [00:28:09] Speaker A: You know, I'm talking French about that, too. [00:28:11] Speaker B: I call French, too, in my existence. A pussy grabber. Like a random pussy grabber to a witness. Right? Like, not. Not your girl. [00:28:19] Speaker A: Right. [00:28:20] Speaker B: You know, you've been a self proclaimed dick flasher, right, in clubs. [00:28:23] Speaker A: Right? [00:28:24] Speaker B: So this has been who you are, right? I don't know. You saying you're not anymore? Maybe. [00:28:29] Speaker A: Is that who he is? [00:28:31] Speaker B: I mean, what do you. How often. How much do you. Okay, then let's. Let's put this. How often do you do something repeatedly before it is who you are? [00:28:40] Speaker A: Well, do you. When you leave, when you get up, where you gonna do you to get to your truck? What are you gonna do? [00:28:45] Speaker B: Walk? [00:28:45] Speaker A: Are you a professional walker? Is that, like, your job? You do that? That. I mean, that's what you are, though. [00:28:50] Speaker C: Sneaky. Just compare. Pussy grabbing, walking. [00:28:52] Speaker B: Yeah. That's not a characteristic of me, walking. [00:28:56] Speaker A: Well, why not? You do so much of it. I would say that if I were to pick what you were in life, I'd say you're a walker. [00:29:01] Speaker C: You walk all the time. [00:29:02] Speaker B: You not say, I'm a fucking walker. [00:29:04] Speaker C: You walk all the way. [00:29:06] Speaker A: You're a breather, too. You've been breathing so much of this air, and you have noticed. [00:29:09] Speaker C: But I think, like, for J Mac, we could say he's. He's a guy. Characteristically, he might be late. So if he stops, if he starts coming early for, like, the next year, he changed in that department. [00:29:23] Speaker A: Yeah, but that would be a fallacy, though, because we're saying that Jamie Mack is. [00:29:30] Speaker B: He's saying fallacy, not flaccid. [00:29:32] Speaker C: I heard him. Okay. [00:29:33] Speaker B: I just wanted to make sure. [00:29:34] Speaker C: I can hear. I just can't pronounce bro. [00:29:36] Speaker A: That's who he is. But, like, he doesn't want to do better, because if he did, he wouldn't. It wouldn't be changing. [00:29:43] Speaker C: It just. [00:29:43] Speaker A: He's doing better. [00:29:44] Speaker B: I do. I do. I do. So once he does. [00:29:48] Speaker A: No, no. See, this is not like I'm a victim of the. No, he chooses to not get a fuck. [00:29:52] Speaker B: I do. No, he doesn't. [00:29:55] Speaker C: We gonna say he changed? [00:29:56] Speaker B: I do want to get better. The reason why I was late today, you know, I mean, was because I was doing a favor. I had to stop and hook up a friend of mine. [00:30:05] Speaker A: What about the friends that were here? [00:30:08] Speaker B: One of them was here, the one that I was hooking up. [00:30:11] Speaker A: Oh, so then it's your fault. Friends, or he just didn't plan it? [00:30:15] Speaker B: No, the plug was nothing. Ready until it was like. And then he moved it. He's like, come here, and then go there. And then. That threw me off. [00:30:24] Speaker A: He said he set you up. You, the fans know about you. That's what that sounds like. [00:30:28] Speaker B: And then. [00:30:29] Speaker A: And then grab the phone taped to the bottom of the stool. [00:30:33] Speaker B: And then there was Atlanta traffic. [00:30:35] Speaker A: What are we doing? [00:30:36] Speaker B: There's a lot of traffic. You know, like, there's a whole bunch of things going on. [00:30:40] Speaker C: Living Atlanta. We could always. [00:30:41] Speaker A: Yeah, traffic is always. That's why you get 15 minutes to be late. But it was more than 15, right? [00:30:44] Speaker B: It's like, maybe 15 and a half. [00:30:46] Speaker A: Okay, but my point, though. [00:30:49] Speaker B: I got here the same time as Locke. It's like me and Locke rolled up in here at the same time. So I don't know. I'm often late, but I'm often getting here at the same time as other people. [00:30:59] Speaker A: Yeah, but Locke's isn't a host. [00:31:01] Speaker B: I know, but we ain't gonna start the show without him. [00:31:03] Speaker A: Well, I mean, we could have. [00:31:05] Speaker B: We don't. We don't start the show without guests. [00:31:07] Speaker A: Yeah, but we could have. [00:31:08] Speaker B: But we don't. [00:31:08] Speaker A: But on a normal day, we wouldn't have. [00:31:11] Speaker B: We're that scorpion. We don't. We are who we are. We don't start the show. We're a show that don't start until the guest gets here. [00:31:17] Speaker A: I don't believe you are who you are, though. I believe that you were like, okay, for instance, I think. I think this may be inaccurate on the number of years, okay? But I think I read that every ten years, your body has completely new cells than it did ten years before. Now, I'm not saying all of them die and regenerate at the same time, but over time, cells die and others get reproduced and replaced. And after about ten years, every single cell in your body has been replaced with a new cell. So you're not even physically the same person anymore. And then you're like, well, your soul is the same. I don't know that I believe in all that. [00:31:48] Speaker B: Well, so. So again, so if you meet somebody, right, and when you meet them, they talk about all the. The cheating they've done in the past. [00:31:56] Speaker A: Right. Well, that was old sales. [00:31:58] Speaker B: Right? So they. They. This girlfriend, they cheated on this boyfriend. They cheated on whatever the fuck, right? Like everyone, you know. And you think, oh, they're just being honest, right? Like, so the fact that they're telling me this is. They're not like this. Then, you know, later on down the line, they cheating on you too. Should you be the frog that thinks, oh, dumb me for thinking the scorpion was gonna be anything and what the scorpion had told me it already was? Or usually like, oh, I thought people changed. Well, or should you be, are you the one. Are you the frog? Then again, for saying, listen, I I knew the scorpion was gonna do what scorpions do, and you told me you was the scorpion, but somehow I believe that you wasn't gonna be that scorpion with me. Me. [00:32:39] Speaker A: Well, why would you believe that? [00:32:41] Speaker B: Well, because they're. They're saying it right. Just like that anymore. Right? That's what the frog said. Like, I mean, that's what he told the frog. I'm not gonna be like, I'm not gonna do this to you. I'm not gonna fucking sting you because, you know, to fuck me up too. [00:32:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:54] Speaker B: And they didn't give a fuck halfway through Cross river. Get it? [00:32:58] Speaker A: I like why you need to get across the water. What's over there? [00:33:03] Speaker B: That's the. Isn't that the chickens problem? Why did he crosse. [00:33:06] Speaker A: That's not the same problem. [00:33:07] Speaker B: I mean, but it's what isn't it? Why did the chicken cross the road? [00:33:10] Speaker A: To get to the other side. [00:33:11] Speaker B: But that's not. I mean, I know that's the answer, but that's the same thing. Then why did he get across the river? Just get to the other side? I mean, there's got to be. Maybe there's a female scorpion he's been scoping. You know what I mean? Like, he. [00:33:21] Speaker A: Like, he's not gonna get to it, though. Cause he killed the frog, but he don't know that. [00:33:24] Speaker B: He thought he. Again, so my thing is this. Like, he thought he was gonna be different, right? He thought the scorpion dead ass before he got on that back was like, listen, like, I'm not like, listen, I stinging you fucks me up too, right? Like, why would I do that? Like. But then when I get here, like, God damn it, I don't know nothing else to do. But this is what I. This is what I do. Like a motherfucker that is a liar or a thief or. You know what I mean? And that's what they always do. Like, I've known people that lie for no reason. We've. I think we've all met a person, like, smooth. That just lies for no reason. [00:33:55] Speaker A: Odob. [00:33:56] Speaker B: Right. And so what? So, again, do you think that. [00:33:58] Speaker A: I don't think Odob has ever told the truth on this show. [00:34:00] Speaker B: Do you ever think that they're ever gonna be. That's gonna change? Like, they're gonna do? Is that something that they grew out of? Like, it's a part that's like, okay. [00:34:08] Speaker C: Now with those two. [00:34:09] Speaker B: So. [00:34:10] Speaker A: So what, then I just make. So you think. Do you think that you have the ability to change? [00:34:14] Speaker B: Yes, I have. [00:34:15] Speaker C: See, what that can't. [00:34:16] Speaker A: You can't contradict everybody else. [00:34:18] Speaker B: What? [00:34:19] Speaker A: Either there are scorpions. They have to remain Scorpio. [00:34:21] Speaker B: Maybe I'm a chameleon. I don't know. Maybe I'm not a scorpion. Maybe I have the ability that we're a scorpion. Does it? [00:34:27] Speaker C: Well, then we all have. That's why I was. That's why I was. Like you said, I was on the fence. [00:34:30] Speaker B: Oh. [00:34:30] Speaker C: Not because we all have the ability to change. The question is, are we going to or nothing? [00:34:34] Speaker B: But that's the thing. Not everything has the ability to change. Like, everything beings that. No. Well, you know, all human beings aren't the same. Right? I don't think that that's the case. I mean, even. Even scientifically, if you, you know, open. [00:34:46] Speaker C: Them up there, they have those differences to change. Now, it could change for better to worse. [00:34:51] Speaker A: Okay. [00:34:51] Speaker C: Worse. [00:34:52] Speaker A: You know, we're talking about white people haven't changed, but, you know, we're talking about here. This is a bigger conversation. This is free will. [00:34:59] Speaker C: That's all this is making the decision to change. [00:35:03] Speaker A: Just free will, period. Like, dude, do we have any control over any of this at all? And I tend to believe we don't. And the free will doesn't exist. [00:35:09] Speaker C: From the free will conversation, we don't. But I think if you're a person and you have a characteristic of yourself that you want to change, you can definitely do. [00:35:17] Speaker B: What are you saying then, French? Because I knew you were gonna do that. Because the free will auto agree was not gonna work with what you said. [00:35:25] Speaker C: The free will aspect is so much more grander than just, oh, I want to make a change for people, my life, because there's. There's things in your life that you're not in control of that can impact you. [00:35:35] Speaker A: What I'm saying, as far as free will goes, the scorpion that doesn't have free will, I'm gonna sting this frog. [00:35:40] Speaker C: Yeah. Cuz for my animal. [00:35:42] Speaker A: And even if I convince him to get me on this water, I don't have the ability to not sting. Right? Because that's just in my nature is what you're saying. [00:35:49] Speaker B: Right. [00:35:49] Speaker A: But that's free will or lack thereof. That's what that is. [00:35:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:54] Speaker A: So you're saying the larger argument you're making then is that we don't have free will. And I know you weren't trying to go there with it, but. [00:36:01] Speaker B: Well, yeah, no, I guess, you know, you are who you are, right? I think, you know, I mean, there's. Okay, you're. I think you're maybe right, you know, I mean, cuz we'll talk about like, you know, motherfuckers that are serial killers, right? Maybe they were born that way. Right? Like, I mean, if a person can be born gay, a portion. [00:36:22] Speaker A: Well, no, they're not born gay. French Reggie helps them. [00:36:26] Speaker B: They need that car. [00:36:27] Speaker A: They're just walking around lost and confused in one day. [00:36:30] Speaker B: But that's the thing, right? Like these energies that people have, like this is a. This is a thing like you could have where you say, oh, no, people are born this way. Well, then people could be born that way too, right? Predisposition. [00:36:44] Speaker C: But that creates a slippery slur. [00:36:46] Speaker A: What does. [00:36:46] Speaker B: It's already been slippery when you put that ky on when you say, oh. [00:36:49] Speaker C: I was born that way. Because now with the pedophiles, they can just be like. [00:36:54] Speaker A: You don't think your gay friends were born gay? [00:36:57] Speaker B: Yeah, but I'm saying, see, what are you doing? [00:37:01] Speaker A: I know you want it both ways. [00:37:02] Speaker C: But I'm not happy. But for me is I don't want to use the argument of always because they were born that way. I don't think we should ever use that argument. [00:37:11] Speaker A: What are we talking about? [00:37:12] Speaker B: They needed a car trip. [00:37:13] Speaker C: You like, we can't use that argument because now any orientation or anything that. Cause now pedophiles can be like, I was born that way, so I gotta rape kids. [00:37:22] Speaker B: So. [00:37:23] Speaker C: And now they get a pass. [00:37:24] Speaker A: Well, no, they don't get a pass. Cause it's illegal to rape kids. [00:37:27] Speaker C: But if you use the argument of being born that way, you create reasons for legislation to change, as I mentioned. That's what I'm saying. But my weirdness, that's why I say as a. [00:37:35] Speaker B: But the weirdness is this is, again, you self choosing what you want to be okay and what not to be okay. So you're okay with homosexuality. So you're okay with saying people are born that way? [00:37:47] Speaker C: I literally just said, do not go with that argument when you. [00:37:51] Speaker B: No, it's not a no. [00:37:52] Speaker A: So, see, that's the problem. You're saying, don't go with that. You. Either we're gonna use the truth to make these decisions, or we're gonna use your feelings. We can't use both. So you're saying don't let's pretend like. [00:38:03] Speaker C: That study doesn't work when it comes to sexual orientations. I think it's better to go with the feelings aspect than being going when. [00:38:10] Speaker B: You'Re saying that's not what they're going with. [00:38:11] Speaker A: No, no, no, Mac, that's not what you're saying is better to go with. There's not a choice. Either we're gonna use the truth or we're not. [00:38:17] Speaker C: Okay? And if we go. And all I'm saying is once we go with that truth, we are creating slippery slopes for. [00:38:22] Speaker A: It's not a slippery slope. It's the only slope that there is, my nigga. Either the slope is there or it's not. We can't pretend it's not there for predators of child sex, then, but we can for gay people. Either the slope is there or isn't. It's not slowly, it's just the slope. [00:38:36] Speaker C: So in that case, I'm not going with the being born thing, because at. [00:38:40] Speaker B: The same time, because, you know, because. [00:38:42] Speaker C: There'S some gay people that say there wasn't gay. [00:38:44] Speaker A: What? [00:38:45] Speaker C: Something that happened to them? [00:38:46] Speaker A: What do you. [00:38:47] Speaker C: I think. I think most gay people in the world, or is things that happen to them in it that cause them to be gay. So lack of things that happen, either. [00:38:55] Speaker A: A lack of nurture. [00:38:57] Speaker C: Yeah, I think nurture plays a bigger role than nature when it comes to that. [00:39:01] Speaker A: Okay. [00:39:03] Speaker B: Okay. I mean, and. And that's. I'm glad that you said that, but again, as far as they, them, you know, whatever pronoun, they want to use the gay community. [00:39:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:15] Speaker B: They're. They're saying this is. I don't have a choice. [00:39:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:20] Speaker B: I don't have a choice. [00:39:20] Speaker C: Especially like that. [00:39:23] Speaker A: Right? [00:39:23] Speaker B: This is where I was born. [00:39:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:25] Speaker A: You're saying that's wrong. [00:39:27] Speaker C: French for me, I think, from a society that has to sign a social contract. Yes. I think if we gonna go with that, it's. It fucks up shit. Because now we gonna. It's gonna create that. [00:39:37] Speaker B: So again, so why. So again, this is the thing you're so afraid of creating a lane than whether acknowledging a truth or not, right? [00:39:44] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. [00:39:45] Speaker C: Because of a social contract. [00:39:46] Speaker B: But it's not about. So fuck a social contract. Right? [00:39:48] Speaker A: So the truth comes before the contract, right? [00:39:50] Speaker B: If this is. If this is true, right? And this is the reality, that this is how they were born and how they felt since birth, like, this is not an option. This is. This is that. Who? [00:40:00] Speaker C: This size, that's really true. Them or us? [00:40:02] Speaker A: What? Everybody is involved. What do you mean? [00:40:04] Speaker C: There's not. [00:40:05] Speaker A: It's not like we're smarter than they are and they're smarter than us, so. [00:40:07] Speaker B: We must tell them how. What. [00:40:09] Speaker A: What I'm saying is, is if you believe that Nicki Minaj's brother, for instance, could stop liking young girls, or. I don't know what. [00:40:19] Speaker C: He. [00:40:19] Speaker A: Was he into boys or girls? [00:40:20] Speaker C: He was into teenage people. [00:40:22] Speaker A: Just people. Or was it. I think girls or boys? [00:40:24] Speaker C: I think it was both. [00:40:25] Speaker A: Okay. You can't make Nicki Minaj's brother stop being attracted to them. There's nothing that you can do. Is that a fact or not? [00:40:34] Speaker C: According to them, it's a fact. [00:40:36] Speaker A: Okay. [00:40:36] Speaker C: According to the people that are attracted to kids. [00:40:39] Speaker A: So you're saying that you don't believe that that's possible? [00:40:41] Speaker C: I believe they could probably stop. [00:40:44] Speaker A: Okay, so in that situation where you're saying you could make them stop, I'm not sure how you figure you could do that, but. Okay. You know, maybe some shock therapy or a pistol to their head or something. I don't know. But my. My position is that he doesn't choose what is attractive, because I don't choose what I'm attracted to. I don't. Do you choose what you're attracted to? Did you make a choice to decide. [00:41:04] Speaker C: What you're trying to do? I just saw girls for the first time. [00:41:06] Speaker A: I'm not talking about girls. I'm talking, like, brown hair or. [00:41:09] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:41:10] Speaker A: Round eyes. [00:41:11] Speaker C: I never had a just. Oh, I like that. [00:41:13] Speaker A: So what makes you think that they do? If you've never had control over what you're attracted to, how can you sit there with an equal conscience and. No, they have a choice. They're just choosing to be. [00:41:22] Speaker C: Because I look at. Because at the same time, I also look at the environment, and I look at. Most people are attracted to people. [00:41:31] Speaker A: Is there anything that you like that most people don't like? [00:41:33] Speaker C: Yes, there's always things like, we can have that argument every day, but it's not. [00:41:36] Speaker A: This isn't anecdotal. This is the bare bones. I'm not giving you an anecdote. I'm saying if you can witness it in yourself. How can you not accept it in someone else? That seems hypocritical. I'm not talking about any dopes. [00:41:48] Speaker B: And you know how you don't want to be a hypocrite? [00:41:50] Speaker A: I'm talking about if you know that you don't have any control over what you're attracted to, social contract aside, you don't have any control of what it is that you're attracted to. Why do you think he has more license over that? Like he can just turn it off or turn it on or anybody who's thinking something or if they feel they're. [00:42:05] Speaker C: Gay or just like, just like, just like I'm attracted to beautiful women, but it doesn't mean every beautiful woman. I have to. I see, I got to do something to act upon it. [00:42:14] Speaker A: I couldn't either. That's why you didn't go to jail till the end. There was many kids that got away. You see what I'm saying? Like, he didn't fuck every kid he saw. Did he fuck any kids that he saw? [00:42:24] Speaker C: So there we go. So that just proves that he can control it. [00:42:28] Speaker A: So not the attraction, the action, which. [00:42:31] Speaker C: Is, I'm only arguing the action because. [00:42:34] Speaker B: That'S what French stand on. It ain't anything until the action is done. Ain't gay until I. Yeah, but his. [00:42:41] Speaker A: Point was that he wasn't born like that, right? That he chose to do that. And I'm saying chose to be attracted to them right now or chose to touch, because I don't even know if he did tell. He might just have some pornography on his computer or something, or he tried to talk to a kid and they got caught. I'm not even sure what his story is. I used him because we talked about on the show before, no offense to him or their family. [00:43:00] Speaker C: So this is what I'm saying, the attraction. Sure, we can all agree you are born with whatever attraction, right? But the action you can definitely control no matter what. Yes, I believe in that, so I stick to that. [00:43:16] Speaker A: But then that changes back to the free will conversation because now we have free will. We have the lack of ability to go against free will on one part of. And then we're saying, oh, but no, there is free will when it comes to making a choice. [00:43:26] Speaker C: I've always been, there's no such thing as free will. [00:43:28] Speaker B: So then, see, he don't do it. [00:43:31] Speaker A: He don't do it. [00:43:31] Speaker B: Pangea, you just, you just, you just didn't hear what you just said. [00:43:37] Speaker C: The brother let's just free will aspect in that example. For me, is the attraction like. [00:43:41] Speaker A: Yeah, but the free will also has the action. Cause that's free will too. [00:43:44] Speaker B: That is your, that is the actual free will where you're making the choice not to act on. [00:43:50] Speaker A: It's both. [00:43:50] Speaker B: They're both. [00:43:52] Speaker C: So this is, this is the thing with that free will conversation. Because I don't think we can make it black and white. Because that same guy that's attracted to kids, right. This is why I say nurture plays a lot of role. He grows. If a guy's attracted to kids, he grows up in America, he may never act on that attraction because he's growing up in America where there's laws and things that make you that embarrassment. But if he grows up in India where you can marry twelve year olds, eight year olds, he would have no problem and act on that attraction. It's the same guy, but the environment changes how he acted upon that attraction. [00:44:25] Speaker A: So you're saying that in India right now, people get married to twelve year olds? [00:44:28] Speaker C: Some, some you can. [00:44:29] Speaker B: So that's. [00:44:29] Speaker C: So. [00:44:30] Speaker A: Hold on. [00:44:30] Speaker C: That's a real thing. [00:44:31] Speaker A: So then why is he wrong for feeling that even if he's here? [00:44:35] Speaker C: This is why I say the, the nurturing, the environment plays a big role. [00:44:40] Speaker A: That's not what I asked you. [00:44:41] Speaker B: Why is he wrong though? [00:44:43] Speaker C: Wrong with the act or the attraction? [00:44:45] Speaker B: You pick either. Yeah. [00:44:47] Speaker C: You can, you can be attracted whatever you want to be attracted to. That is not my country. [00:44:50] Speaker B: So if you go to India and you can marry a twelve year old right now, you think that you're gonna. I mean, all of those people in your eyes are wrong, but then in India it's normalized, so it's not an issue. So what? So what the fuck? What is what? That's. [00:45:06] Speaker C: So for those people, it's best to live in India, if you. [00:45:10] Speaker B: What I'm just saying, though. So. But if this is happening anywhere in the world, right, so why does one different. Why does it matter where it's happening, right? Either it is or it, it ain't. It's like, it's like the whole slavery thing where you talked about it and people were like, you know, at one point slavery was legal, so everybody did it. Well, in some places, slavery is still legal, but we don't act like we were. We get indignant, but we allow it. Like we was talking about these phones and all this slave labor that we, that we co sign on to have the things that we have in our, in our life existence. We're okay with that. Yeah, but that's kind of what you're saying to me right now, you're okay with it as long as you're not. [00:45:48] Speaker A: Directly loses in India, right? [00:45:49] Speaker C: I. I'm okay. That's. Again, cuz I'm arguing the point. I'm not okay or not. Like for me, this. Whatever it is, it is what it is. So it's not something like you. You're making it seem like I'm. All I'm trying to say is if you live in America and you are somebody that's attracted to kids, I would advise you not to act on. On it. [00:46:10] Speaker A: Right. [00:46:10] Speaker C: But if you said, you know what? I have this attraction, I'm gonna go to India. Because in India I won't get in trouble. Nigga. Enjoy your sky miles. What am I gonna do? [00:46:21] Speaker B: So it sounds like the only time. [00:46:23] Speaker C: I'm gonna act upon that type of shit is if it's my kid. [00:46:26] Speaker B: So. So it sounds like to me, and I'm not. You can correct me if I'm wrong. You're not against people having sex with. [00:46:34] Speaker A: Children, just not in America. That's what it sound like. [00:46:39] Speaker B: I push that long pause. You're right. [00:46:42] Speaker C: Exactly. [00:46:43] Speaker B: Nope, it ain't. I didn't put you anywhere. [00:46:45] Speaker C: Yeah, if it's. If I was making the. Yes, I'm against it. I'm making the law. [00:46:51] Speaker B: You told a nigga to enjoy his guy in that little. [00:46:54] Speaker C: Cause I can't stop that nigga. In India. [00:46:56] Speaker B: You was like, enjoy that booty. Get your. [00:46:58] Speaker C: Because right now I'm not doing shit for those kids that are getting married at twelve. India. So who am I to go stop the nigga that says I'm moving to India? I'm not already. I ain't doing shit. [00:47:06] Speaker A: Right. [00:47:06] Speaker B: But again, this goes back to what B was saying. Truth or not. Is it or ain't it? Is it or ain't it? Is it okay or is it not? Not. Fucking regional truths are not regional. [00:47:18] Speaker C: Me or the person. [00:47:19] Speaker A: What are we talking about? Cause you're saying in India is this. And I'm saying both in your life and your purview, do you see this as a problem whether it's in India or whether it's here? [00:47:30] Speaker B: Right? [00:47:30] Speaker A: And if. And if you do, then you're not. [00:47:33] Speaker B: Telling nigga to enjoy sky miles. [00:47:35] Speaker A: Oh, I don't. Yeah, he was just being funny. [00:47:38] Speaker B: But you're not. You're not. You're not saying I don't give a fuck. You still, like, that's still wrong. I still don't think that that should be happening even in India. So, again, let's take it a little bit further. [00:47:46] Speaker C: I agree with that. It should happen in India, but, like, what am I gonna do? [00:47:50] Speaker B: Let's take it a little bit further about pedophiles, serial killers. I think we can all agree, right? [00:47:56] Speaker C: They're wrong. [00:47:58] Speaker B: Whether it's in India, England, America, doesn't matter. Right. But there's some people that are predisposed, they say, to feeling this way. Right. Like, I've always felt like this, right? Like, I felt this need or this urge and ensure I didn't. Some people don't act on it. Some people do. I don't think you're ever going to say, okay, in. In fucking Ubekistan, they get be a serial killer. Like, if it's. They don't, their fucking laws are such that, you know, you only get a little bit of time, or they won't even. They'll just slap you on the wrist. You're not gonna say that. So that's my thing. Like, either you agree with it and you say, no, this is not cool, or you say, it is cool, but it shouldn't be. Oh, it's cool because they say it's cool over there. Well, that's not. [00:48:41] Speaker C: I mean, we were arguing so many. We're arguing. [00:48:43] Speaker A: The main point is whether or not the scorpion could ever change. [00:48:46] Speaker B: Right. And people are disposed to be in what they are. [00:48:50] Speaker C: And then that's how we got to the argument. Because some people could be what they are, but it never act on what they are. You know, that scorpion is an animal, so they. [00:48:58] Speaker A: But if the scorpion no longer acted on. On that, would he be a scorpion anymore? [00:49:02] Speaker B: That's a great point. [00:49:04] Speaker A: I guess so scorpion that don't what a scorpion is. And you're not doing this. [00:49:09] Speaker C: You're no longer a scorpion. [00:49:10] Speaker A: We can't call it not food. [00:49:13] Speaker C: Yeah, we can't call you a scorpion because you're not doing scorpion shit. [00:49:16] Speaker B: Shrimp. Now they get, like, land shrimp, something. I don't know. [00:49:20] Speaker A: And. But so then. [00:49:22] Speaker C: But with human beings, it's not just one plus one. [00:49:26] Speaker A: It's not supposed to be. We're supposed to be evolved. [00:49:28] Speaker C: But, yeah, so that's why the original point, it looked like I was on the fence. Cause I was like, well, some people don't change, but I've seen people change, too. [00:49:39] Speaker A: Well, I mean, Mac has changed. Mac, when he first got here, you. [00:49:42] Speaker C: Used to not have swag. Now you kind of have some swag. [00:49:45] Speaker A: That's external. I'm trying internal. Mac has changed. It seems like since he came here from Sacramento for sure. There was a different, like, I felt like he was on guard. Like, he always felt like it was grimy shit about to happen everywhere when he first got to Atlanta. And it's like, nah, it's a little slower here, man. We don't. It's not always some. There's definitely some crazy, grimy shit here. [00:50:03] Speaker B: Right. [00:50:03] Speaker A: But you don't have to be a part of it. Like, it's easy to separate yourself. It's easier, I feel, to separate yourself here than it is in Sacramento. [00:50:10] Speaker B: Yeah, Sacramento for sure. [00:50:11] Speaker A: To separate yourself from the greasy shit you like. Okay, well, I see it and I know I can just be over here. [00:50:17] Speaker B: Yeah, you could just stumble. You just go into the store and you find yourself in some shit all the time. Like, it's just wild. [00:50:22] Speaker A: So I've seen. I've seen a person change in ten years, and I'm talking about monumental change. But not that you were bad before, but you're just a different person. Yeah, no, you're far more laid back. Your shoulders drop a little bit lower. [00:50:37] Speaker B: Pac said he was listening to the show. He's going back to the earlier episodes. He recognized the difference. Yeah, no, they. You were. You were way different than them early shows. [00:50:46] Speaker A: Exactly. So, yeah, I seen it now. I'm also somebody who doesn't believe in free will, so that's. That's weird for me. I don't know how I'm gonna reconcile that. But I've seen the change. But maybe the change wasn't a free will. Maybe it was just supposed to happen. [00:51:00] Speaker B: Maybe. Again, it goes back to what French is talking about, his environment, right? Because if we just go back to earlier in this country, right, when slavery was a thing, right. There was white people that, again, like, this is the law, I'm going to do this, right? Or then I don't know because I'm about to fuck it up, because I don't feel like that that sentiment has necessarily changed as much as we would like it to have. [00:51:23] Speaker C: Because economic, there's an economic factor to that example. [00:51:26] Speaker B: As far as the white people, in whole view on black people, I don't know if they're there. Proper property listic, if that's a word. It's not. You know what you're saying? [00:51:41] Speaker A: Property listing. [00:51:42] Speaker B: Yeah, property listing. Opinion and viewpoint of us. [00:51:45] Speaker A: I don't know what that means. Give me some other words. [00:51:47] Speaker B: You know what I mean? Just like the three words together that we're not, you know, we are lesser than, like even. We just go back to just a couple decades ago, when quarterbacks, you know, there were no black quarterbacks. The reason being is that we weren't necessarily have the. The IQ. The IQ and the ability to process offenses and lead from that position. I mean, that was not too fucking long ago that we. That there was. That was prevalent in all the sports. You know what I mean? Not just in the NFL. You know, they didn't want you to be a black quarterback. You know, in high school, in college, they wanted you to be a fucking running back or a cornerback or a wide receiver, something that your athletic ability could be showcased and not necessarily your mind be reliable. So this. This viewpoint of what we are and how people view us, I don't know if white people have changed, right? Like, it was legal for them to think a certain way about black people. [00:52:40] Speaker A: Why do they see us that way? [00:52:43] Speaker B: I guess the. The propaganda, right? [00:52:45] Speaker A: The african jungle, only so far that just go outside. [00:52:50] Speaker C: Like you said it yourself, Mac, it's only so far. [00:52:53] Speaker A: Propaganda can go. Like, why do they see us that way? [00:52:56] Speaker B: So if we go back to the original, like last week, I think you was when you had the clip about from what's his name? The creator, from what's the name of Aaron Magruder. [00:53:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:06] Speaker B: And he was talking about whatever, you know, our. [00:53:10] Speaker A: They see us, but that's how we're showing them. [00:53:12] Speaker B: But what he said that we had a certain cachet, right, in the civil rights movement. And I go back and I think about it, right? It was like, the only way. And I think Martin had the understanding. [00:53:23] Speaker A: Martin Luther King, that yellow first name basis. [00:53:26] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, he's a. He's a first name nigga. Like, he don't need a whole thing. Martin is Martin. [00:53:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:32] Speaker B: It is not Lawrence. And ain't none of that. It's Martin. When we talk about civil rights, Martin. [00:53:35] Speaker A: Short is my Martin. [00:53:38] Speaker B: But he's. He knew that it only could be accomplished the way that he had to do it. Like the fucking. The hands up, you know, turn the other cheek, don't shoot. Because anything else is not going to work. It's not going to barter. You're not going to gain that cache. And it wasn't until I think, you know, people started to see. See motherfuckers getting dog sicked on them and hoses put on them, and they're doing, you know, peaceful protesting and they're still getting fucked up that they tugged on, you know, genuine or, you know, good white people's fucking, you know, emotions, right. And say, listen, that's not right? What I'm looking at right here, right, ain't right now, if you fucking fighting and you can't tell who's the, who's the aggressor, who's the combatant, because you got, you see two fighters, but if you do it this way, it's very clear that there's one that's fucking out of pocket, right, compared to another. And then that way people are like, listen, I can. This something I can get behind and say, this ain't right any other way. I think we've gotten away from that, and I don't think we'll ever go back to that. I think we're at a point now we're ready to fight on a drop of a hat, and it doesn't even matter if they're white anymore. Whoop. Like that picture you fucking. You sent me about that chicken and her teacher, you not going to talk to me like this. Like, we have an anger, like you said when I first came out here, like, there's. There's a level of on guardness that I think the majority of black people possess now that it's like, no, we're not. I'm not having it. No way. Like, I'm gonna fuck you up. You come at me wrong, like, you come at this, and that is bad. And it just doesn't. It doesn't help progress. Especially when you got bonnets on. When we were in suits. No, seriously. When we were in suits and we were fucking dressed up and we were trying to fucking portray ourselves with a level of class that, you know, said that we were dignified, people could look at us and see that. But when you wear the fucking costume of an ignorant motherfucker, and even if you may not be, it doesn't matter. Like, you know me, ain't nobody reading the whole book. Covers are books. Covers are getting read and opinions are being made. And so that, I think that's just where we're at with us. [00:55:46] Speaker C: That's a bar. [00:55:48] Speaker A: The French Reggie is co signing you. Hey, man, you're not going to. [00:55:51] Speaker B: I mean, I give him that. It's a rare day, but you know what I mean? [00:55:54] Speaker A: I was trying to think of something I can say to make French agree with me and jump off, but I couldn't think nothing right then, so anything. [00:56:00] Speaker B: I guarantee it. It didn't matter. You could have just said anything. You could have just said anything and it would have been so good because he would have just jumped right out the boat. Wait for me. [00:56:13] Speaker A: Yeah, listeners, we appreciate you guys tuning in once again, you know what? I know you guys have noticed, but we've slimmed down the shows a little bit. There was a. There was a reason why we did it, though. I was going out of town, French went out of town one time, and I went out of town, and we just had to make. Make it so that you guys would have shows throughout that whole thing. We hate it. We hate making you guys miss weeks. So that's why you've noticed the shows have been kind of slimmed down and maybe a little more rapid pace than what we normally do, but we're looking to continue on once, well, after this episode growing. Yeah. So either way, let us know any feedback you have, even about that, if you do. [00:56:50] Speaker C: Yeah. And anything else you want us to do, too, like things you want to hear from us or topics, whatever. We just want to bring that interaction, let us know anything from the slack. [00:56:59] Speaker A: Room, Spotify, social media, everything I'm going to, I'll be willing to do. Should we do. We haven't done a challenge in a while. [00:57:06] Speaker B: Okay. [00:57:06] Speaker A: Yeah, any challenges. [00:57:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:08] Speaker A: Any listener that feels like they could go on a car ride with Reggie and not be gay by the time it's back, what would we give them? [00:57:16] Speaker B: I mean, I think just me coming back straight is a prize in itself. Like, you come back and used to think pussy great. Like, it's like, whoa, you won. Cause that don't happen. It's like the gay Bermuda triangle. [00:57:33] Speaker A: Fall in love with pussy again. [00:57:36] Speaker B: The gay Bermuda triangle. Like, that nigga straight go in there, just disappear. He'd never be seen again. [00:57:44] Speaker A: Oh, French is laughing. French is the only person not laughing. [00:57:48] Speaker B: I bet his gay friends think it's funny. [00:57:49] Speaker A: Yeah, they probably laugh. They right, too. [00:57:53] Speaker B: I was on the fence. I was on the fence. That nigga told me it was cool. [00:57:59] Speaker A: Oh, man, that sounds like, you know, we used to do, like, ads and stuff. Yeah, we should do an ad like, that vaginal mesh ad where, like, you get a lawyer, right? Yeah. If you've been on a ride Prince Reggie and did not come back game. [00:58:16] Speaker B: If you were stationed in so and so and got mesothemelma. Like, if you drank French Reggie's bath water, it's still straight. [00:58:28] Speaker A: Oh, shit. They'll do a class action against French anyway. [00:58:32] Speaker B: Keep supporting drugs, nigga. I was used to be straight. Like, niggas just told me he was. [00:58:37] Speaker A: Going around the block. [00:58:38] Speaker C: Damn it. [00:58:40] Speaker A: Keep supporting us, keep interacting with us, and we'll keep bringing the nonsense because we realize that sometimes people just need to laugh till next time. [00:58:47] Speaker B: 10% less bullshit than any other podcast, guaranteed.

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