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[00:00:01] Speaker B: No Nonsense show and its host do.
[00:00:02] Speaker C: Not necessarily reflect views consistent with political.
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[00:00:13] Speaker B: I think we should go in, like, chronological order, right. Because there's been a minute. Right. Since we've recorded.
[00:00:17] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:00:18] Speaker B: A lot of shit has happened since then.
[00:00:19] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:00:20] Speaker B: And not. We're not talking about no politics bullshit. Like, none of that.
[00:00:22] Speaker A: Oh, really? Good.
[00:00:23] Speaker B: That's what I said. Like, like, fuck off. Like, you know, again, like, whenever the world does, I'm just going to live. Like, it doesn't matter. Like, whatever happens. Like, like, Pac's welcome. Pac.
[00:00:32] Speaker A: What's up, Pac?
[00:00:33] Speaker C: It's been a minute.
[00:00:34] Speaker B: Like Pac's dad said, like, it don't matter. These leaders change, but the system still stays. Yeah, right.
[00:00:41] Speaker D: At the end of the day, I'm still going to have to get up and go to work, and my life isn't going to change that much.
[00:00:47] Speaker B: I mean, so. Yeah, so I'm. I'm. I'm on that kind of a tip right now, but we, you know, I don't.
[00:00:53] Speaker A: I just want to say. I don't know that I agree with that, but I do agree we shouldn't talk about. This may not be a politics episode.
[00:00:58] Speaker B: Yeah, no, no, for sure not. But can we talk about your boy, like, 60. What was it? No, 58. Who's 58? Tyson, you are listening to the no Nonsense Show. 10% less bullshit than any other podcast, guaranteed. Oh, yeah, 58 is 58.
[00:01:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:01:33] Speaker B: And it looked 58.
[00:01:34] Speaker C: The legs look 59.
[00:01:35] Speaker A: But did it. But did it look 58 or 59 in those. Those Twitter posts, those YouTube videos?
[00:01:40] Speaker C: No.
[00:01:40] Speaker A: So explain it to me. Explain it to me how it looked. It looked not 59.
It looked 40.
[00:01:46] Speaker C: We never saw his legs, though, in those videos, bro.
[00:01:48] Speaker A: You saw. Unless you thought he was floating.
You saw that nigga move, and it wasn't. Like, it wasn't.
[00:01:54] Speaker B: Well, again, I think there's a. There's a. There's a thing, right? Like, you know, lab versus theory. Like, so when you can punch a bag and you bobbing and weaving and he hits a thing a couple times too hard, you know? Yeah, right. That. That's. That's cool. Right? But that's like 10 seconds.
[00:02:10] Speaker A: So you were doing. You believe his sparring. You believe his sparring matches were 10 seconds long?
[00:02:15] Speaker B: No, he was sparring against a dude that was, like, waving over his head like.
[00:02:18] Speaker A: No, no, no, no, that wasn't. That wasn't sparring.
[00:02:20] Speaker C: That's just training.
[00:02:22] Speaker B: Yeah. So I don't think. What?
[00:02:23] Speaker A: The guy with the mitts is not the person he sparked.
[00:02:25] Speaker D: I mean, I mean, what are we saying here, actually?
[00:02:27] Speaker A: Yeah, Jamie Mac, are we saying the.
[00:02:28] Speaker D: Fight was bullshit or.
I'm just trying to figure out.
[00:02:32] Speaker C: The contract said it was supposed to be a bullshit.
[00:02:34] Speaker A: I don't know. I don't know about the contract. I just look at that and I see, oh, he's not even trying anymore.
[00:02:38] Speaker B: It was mad.
[00:02:39] Speaker D: Look, look, look.
[00:02:40] Speaker A: And he wasn't knocking Tyson out either.
[00:02:42] Speaker D: He wasn't hitting him like he was supposed to. Like. I'm sorry. The fact that Tyson only landed 18 punches, I don't believe.
[00:02:49] Speaker A: I don't believe that you saw the real Mike Tyson. I believe a. A scripted storyline, WWE type boxing match.
[00:02:58] Speaker B: So that leads me to really my point about how do we. I mean, because it broke records. I mean, it really had fucking Netflix.
[00:03:06] Speaker A: That's why they did it.
[00:03:07] Speaker C: They know they couldn't do that.
[00:03:08] Speaker A: Study the data.
[00:03:09] Speaker B: No, no, but my point is why. Why did we fall for the bullshit? Like, why did in such. I mean, what?
[00:03:17] Speaker A: Fall for the bull? What is the bullshit?
[00:03:18] Speaker B: That whole fight was the bullshit.
[00:03:20] Speaker A: In what way?
[00:03:21] Speaker B: Because it was bullshit.
[00:03:22] Speaker A: What was the point of the fight?
[00:03:23] Speaker D: The bullshit is the fact that we all got excited to go see. To see this, that we knew it was going to be a sham in the first place.
[00:03:29] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:03:31] Speaker A: The only thing you didn't get was Mike Tyson knocking his ass out. You got everything else. But you're saying, what was this bullshit? You got everything else. You got the excitement leading up to it.
[00:03:39] Speaker B: That's all we wanted.
[00:03:40] Speaker A: You got the community involved in it. Everybody was talking about it. It was everywhere. It was the excitement of that weekend. Everybody tuned in on Friday to a free. As long as you had Netflix, a free viewing of one of the biggest ideas in the world. It wasn't. It wasn't actually the biggest boxing match. I didn't want to, but it was the biggest idea.
[00:03:56] Speaker B: I didn't give a fuck about an idea.
[00:03:57] Speaker C: What do you mean by the idea? Like the fact that it was older.
[00:03:59] Speaker A: That it was Mike Tyson finally coming back to show his glory in the. In the gladiator stage. And we got this white boy that nobody likes and we get to pit good and evil and David and Goliath. He's.
[00:04:09] Speaker B: Who's growing up who.
[00:04:10] Speaker A: See, that's what I'm saying.
[00:04:11] Speaker D: You could evil.
[00:04:12] Speaker A: You could pick your David. And you could pick your Goliath.
[00:04:14] Speaker D: I was just hoping this wash up wasn't washed up enough.
[00:04:16] Speaker A: You were right. No matter which way you picked, you got everything you wanted. Except for the knockout from Mike Tyson. But here you are pissed.
[00:04:22] Speaker B: That's all.
[00:04:22] Speaker A: I'm grateful, bro.
[00:04:23] Speaker B: No, I didn't want any of that other shit.
[00:04:25] Speaker A: You got everything else.
[00:04:26] Speaker C: And you'd even have to pay for that.
[00:04:27] Speaker A: And you didn't have to even pay for it.
[00:04:29] Speaker B: You got everything to pay for Netflix anyway. Netflix is not free.
[00:04:34] Speaker A: It's not not free.
[00:04:35] Speaker C: But you was going to pay for Netflix.
[00:04:37] Speaker A: You already paid for years.
[00:04:38] Speaker C: Your bill came on the front. The fight wasn't like the 12th.
[00:04:41] Speaker B: What about, what about the 18.1 million that they grossed at the fucking gate?
[00:04:46] Speaker A: What's wrong with that?
[00:04:47] Speaker B: I'm just, I'm just saying.
[00:04:48] Speaker A: Making money.
[00:04:49] Speaker B: No, I'm saying there's nothing wrong. But do you think that those people thought that they were paying for bullshit?
[00:04:54] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:04:55] Speaker A: Do I think that they thought that there was a chance that this was all just lights and mirrors? Everyone knew that. But yet we still were all completely glued to our seats on Friday night to watch that late ass fight because it didn't even come in time. It was supposed to come.
[00:05:07] Speaker D: Yeah, we all waited that extra month like midnight.
[00:05:10] Speaker A: And I'm like, I'm not going to fuck with you. That first fight was stupid.
[00:05:12] Speaker D: But them first fight was stupid though. You got the girls in the one before that, the boys, the two Mexicans.
Yeah, the girl won the one. The wrong one. The wrong one.
[00:05:25] Speaker A: No shit. I don't ever think I've ever seen an undercard that dope, ever, ever. And you're saying we didn't. This bullshit we didn't get. No, we got a lot. I get there was a lot to chew on.
[00:05:35] Speaker D: Those two fights made.
[00:05:36] Speaker A: I was so excited. By the time the Tyson fight came, I was like, I couldn't even watch some of the end of that, of that girl fight. It was just because that cut on.
[00:05:42] Speaker C: Her eyes, bro, that's crazy. The fact that she kept fighting, she said.
[00:05:46] Speaker D: The fact that that referee didn't say. And she kept headbutting her, bro.
[00:05:50] Speaker C: Like they only took one point away, right?
[00:05:53] Speaker D: They took, they, they gave her a warning. I think they, they might have took one away.
There was like six times that she purposely went into her and there was probably like eight that you can say were maybe incidental, but there was like six good ones that she just went full into her.
[00:06:09] Speaker C: But apparently that's her bag though. That fighter, she been doing that, she.
[00:06:12] Speaker D: Leads with her head. But that's what, like the other girl's trainer was calling that out. He's like, no, what we need is a ref that can see this and call this out. But he was like, there's no way she should have been able to do this this many times.
[00:06:21] Speaker C: That's unstoppable.
[00:06:22] Speaker D: And apparently, and from what he was saying too, like the girl that lost, he said she's been in like 30 fights and she's never been cut up like this.
[00:06:30] Speaker B: And then he said, but if you.
[00:06:31] Speaker D: Look, but if you look at the girl who won and look at her opponent, she said this shit happens all the time.
[00:06:36] Speaker B: All the time to her opponent.
[00:06:37] Speaker A: So my, so my challenge to you, Mac, my offering is that this was one of the greatest events I've ever been a part of. However, the ultimate payoff, which was Mike Tyson putting him on his ass, didn't work out. But that's not because Mike Tyson couldn't have. I believe it's because of that script. That's what I believe. And because of that, I'm willing to give Mike Tyson bitch ass a pass for using us like that. Because at least he got 20 million, which he deserved. Yeah, because he's the reason why anybody watched that fight.
[00:07:05] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. We all were hyped up to see if we saw the videos like you said, the training videos, the sparring shit. And we're like, this nigga is going to, we're going to see at least these two minute rounds. He's not going to get tired. Like.
And then it just was like, again, that's like your motherfucker talking that shit, you know, Oh, I got this fucking bomb ass pussy. Like this is gonna be this. And they talk it up, talk it up. And then you get the fucking. And it's like your fucking pussy is trash. Like that's. I'm not supposed to be. So, yeah, great. You know, we danced the fucking night, we had a good dinner, you know, I mean, okay, you got some skills in head and whatnot, but when you. All that shit you was talking, when I got to that, it wasn't what you said it was. And that's kind of how I'm never.
[00:07:53] Speaker A: Gonna call her again.
[00:07:54] Speaker B: Nah, like I'm gonna get some more head.
[00:07:57] Speaker A: Like, exactly.
[00:07:59] Speaker D: Just like we gonna watch the next J. Paul fight.
[00:08:01] Speaker B: No, no, no, no, it's not, it's not. I won't watch his fights. Cause again he's, he, we will.
[00:08:06] Speaker A: He's shown his hand too many times.
[00:08:08] Speaker D: I'm saying. I'm not saying you specifically, J. Mac. I'm saying we.
[00:08:11] Speaker C: He always comes back with a draw.
[00:08:13] Speaker B: We'll see what it is. Yeah. Cause he's.
[00:08:15] Speaker C: He's gonna get Canelo one of them.
[00:08:17] Speaker B: He will not fight Canelo.
[00:08:19] Speaker D: He's not getting anybo. That's in there.
[00:08:22] Speaker A: You buy. You guys are, I believe, for tragedy. That money that he gave Tyson with virtually no pain on his face.
[00:08:28] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:08:28] Speaker A: Think about Canelo. Think about how much Canelo had to. Had how many punches he had to earn his way through to get the last million he made in a fight. This fight, he don't have to take none of that. And he get 20 million.
[00:08:37] Speaker C: He can tell Canelo, would you do it? He can tell Canelo right now.
[00:08:41] Speaker D: Right now.
[00:08:42] Speaker A: Hold on.
[00:08:43] Speaker D: Right now.
[00:08:43] Speaker A: No, Mack, Would you do it?
[00:08:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I would do it, but this is the thing. How many times are we going to. So this is the thing, right? Like, I. I'm not going to.
[00:08:53] Speaker D: If you're Canelo right now, you take that fight.
[00:08:55] Speaker B: No. Fuck, no.
[00:08:56] Speaker D: You probably take that fight. When I'm done.
[00:08:58] Speaker A: Yeah, When I'm done.
[00:08:59] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:09:00] Speaker B: And he.
[00:09:02] Speaker D: Nobody that's actually fighting.
[00:09:03] Speaker B: He's not even going to fight a real boxer.
[00:09:05] Speaker D: That's what I'm saying. He's not going to fight nobody who's actually fighting right now.
[00:09:08] Speaker C: Yeah, he's probably. His next fight is going to be McGregor once he gets his.
[00:09:11] Speaker A: Yeah, but y'all.
[00:09:12] Speaker D: But he said he wants to do it as an MMA fight, though.
[00:09:14] Speaker A: Y'all are misunderstanding.
[00:09:15] Speaker C: We can write the script.
[00:09:16] Speaker D: That's different, though.
That right there makes. It generates more interest.
[00:09:21] Speaker A: You're missing understanding. I don't think that it would. There was ever a time that Jake Paul got into a ring and there wasn't a script involved. It's not like he used to fight for real and now he just did. I don't believe there was ever that way. I think there was always some type of stipulation in the contract that protected him in some kind of way. It just got to the point now where he's the biggest draw, where he can actually say, oh, you can't knock me out. Oh, you. You know what I'm saying? It just got to that level. But I think it's always been there.
[00:09:43] Speaker B: It didn't. What was this name? Nate Robinson.
[00:09:48] Speaker C: But I was. That was a undercard exhibition.
[00:09:51] Speaker B: The contract was an exhibition for Nate. Nate sleeping.
[00:09:54] Speaker A: Yeah. But Nate is five.
[00:09:55] Speaker B: I understand that, though.
[00:09:57] Speaker A: So there was no need For a contract. I'll knock Nate out.
[00:09:59] Speaker C: Yeah, it wasn't.
[00:10:00] Speaker A: Did.
[00:10:00] Speaker D: Not even the first time we actually thought that it might happen because the auto fights that he's done always seem like they'd be one sided.
[00:10:07] Speaker A: Troy somebody. No Furry, No Fury.
[00:10:10] Speaker C: Yeah, he lost the. Yeah, so he lost. So he. He's proven that he can lose in one of those exhibition fights. But I don't think he says knock me out. Yeah, I think that's part of the contract because that'll fuck up.
[00:10:21] Speaker D: It's hard to say. Most of this shit ain't scripted now, to be honest. I mean, I look at the NBA and I'm like, this shit is wwe. I look at the NFL and I'm like, this is wwe.
[00:10:30] Speaker A: Have y'all been watching NBA a lot?
[00:10:32] Speaker D: I'll be honest, I only watched one game this season and that was the last season. Yeah, and it was the game that. That clay came back to the bay. That was the game I watched.
[00:10:43] Speaker C: Are y'all not watching because y'all schedules don't lie because the games are late.
[00:10:46] Speaker A: It just doesn't matter.
[00:10:48] Speaker D: I'm be honest. Just even when I was like really into the NBA and stuff like that, like, it's just. Football's on. Like when football's on, football's on. When football's over, then it's like, okay.
[00:10:58] Speaker C: Yeah, that's always been the thing because they used to say NBA season really starts after Christmas.
[00:11:03] Speaker D: And this is the whole reason why they have the cup and everything now is because people didn't give a about the NBA at first. I think the NBA didn't give a about the NBA at first. Like, you got people just resting, just.
[00:11:13] Speaker C: I think the problem. The problem now with the NBA is they won't be able to get new audience. I think people like us, people that grew up with the league, but I don't think the young kids can sit down and watch a full fourth, fourth quarter game.
[00:11:27] Speaker D: I just think that they getting hurt by the. By where they play in. In. In the. In the year because.
[00:11:33] Speaker C: But they have always been playing that. That time they have football.
[00:11:37] Speaker D: Are they. Is the NBA gaining more viewership now? I don't know, but I'm just wondering. I don't think it seems like the NFL is.
[00:11:47] Speaker C: Yeah, because the NFL is like tradition. It's like.
[00:11:50] Speaker D: It's like the NFL.
You know what I mean? And so like it. I see that growing. Like the NFL's grown to the point where, I mean, they, they got Black Friday games now. They're gonna start Having Saturday games earlier now. I mean, you got everybody just bidding to try to get exclusive games on their. Like, my biggest thing walking away from the Tyson fight was how the fuck is. If Netflix couldn't handle this, how the fuck are they going to handle it?
[00:12:13] Speaker B: It was buffering.
[00:12:14] Speaker D: You didn't see, like, how much it was crashing.
[00:12:17] Speaker C: You believe that no matter what.
[00:12:18] Speaker D: Do I believe it?
[00:12:19] Speaker A: Yeah, that. That's. Look, I got a conspiracy theory on that.
[00:12:22] Speaker D: There's a conspiracy theory for everything, in my opinion. I mean, I don't know what to believe. We're in America.
[00:12:27] Speaker A: I feel like that. I feel like that event. And I'm opposite of Mac. I feel like they did their motherfucking thing on that. Yeah, I think that was from success to bottom. It was so well produced. Even the D. Wait, who did their thing?
[00:12:39] Speaker C: Netflix.
[00:12:39] Speaker D: Oh, yeah.
[00:12:40] Speaker A: Even from the.
[00:12:41] Speaker D: Netflix was the biggest winner. All of it.
[00:12:43] Speaker A: Well, no, but I'm saying who did their thing? Netflix put together a real production that rivals wwe. How the Be fanatical about it.
[00:12:52] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:12:52] Speaker A: From the top to the bottom, it was well produced. Even those dumbass ads for those movies that we didn't want to see, we kind of wanted to see a little bit in the moment.
[00:12:59] Speaker D: I had nothing wrong with the programming. I had a problem with the fact that you couldn't stream the. Hold on.
[00:13:03] Speaker B: But it was easier.
[00:13:04] Speaker D: It was easier to stream on the pirate sites.
[00:13:07] Speaker A: So the point I'm trying to make is that it was a production, and in that production, I don't even believe it was live. That shit was so well done. From a person who has to produce things. That thing was so well put together and done. I believe those buffering, those little microphone things that was intentional to make you think it was live. This shit was too well done to.
[00:13:25] Speaker B: Make it seem like it was so much. It was so much to make you.
[00:13:28] Speaker A: Think it was live interest.
[00:13:29] Speaker D: Yes, but people would live.
[00:13:31] Speaker A: Who says Netflix has the ability to stream something live? When have they ever done it before? They probably.
[00:13:36] Speaker C: They did it with Chris Rock. Chris Rock was the first live event.
[00:13:39] Speaker A: Says.
[00:13:40] Speaker C: Oh, who says?
[00:13:41] Speaker A: Who says it wasn't edited and produced. And maybe it was an hour, maybe it was whatever. But who says that it was actually live? I don't know that they have the technology to do that.
[00:13:49] Speaker B: So when they're. So you could have the latest. So at the ATT stadium. When did. I mean, so there had to be proof somewhere, right? Like there had to be an event at, you know, that could be delay.
[00:13:59] Speaker C: Jamie Mac. Even when you put your Mic on. For a game. As a ball player, they can put a 15 seconds delay on the line, bro.
[00:14:05] Speaker A: They got people saying they was at Sandy Hook. Some people and other people saying that I saw that person at another place, too.
[00:14:10] Speaker C: Yeah, that's Sandy Hook should tell me.
[00:14:12] Speaker A: So you're sitting there trying to make sense of whether or not people at the stadium, and I see Pac. Pac is looking off into what the fuck?
[00:14:17] Speaker C: Sandy Hook should change my mind. After I Google the school, you can't find anything. It's hard for me to go into.
[00:14:22] Speaker D: That without just going into, like. I just get into the realm of, like. When I get to thinking like that, I just like, what is real and what isn't. So it's kind of like, what are we talking about?
[00:14:30] Speaker A: Okay, I'll be quiet.
[00:14:32] Speaker D: No, I mean, seriously, we can do that for anything, honestly. Because what can you believe? We're only fed information from sources. Like, how do we believe this source is right? And this one's not like, Fridge Reg was so quick.
[00:14:45] Speaker B: This is like, yeah, no, let me. He starts spouting, sandy Hook. No.
[00:14:51] Speaker C: When Alex Jones got sued for like 900 billion, I was like, how much.
[00:14:54] Speaker B: Do you want to get sued for?
[00:14:55] Speaker C: 0. Because I don't even got.
[00:14:57] Speaker B: Because you over here regurgitating this.
[00:14:59] Speaker C: But I'm saying, when you Google every school in America, they tell you when the school was built. And if the school's closed, they tell you when it's closed. Sandy Hook, they don't tell you when it was built.
[00:15:07] Speaker B: So you're saying. Come on, man, just think about what you're saying, bro. Just Google it right now.
Listen, listen, listen. So you're saying that in the midst of making a conspiracy, they. They can't fucking edit a page to fucking say some shit?
[00:15:23] Speaker A: Mag.
[00:15:24] Speaker D: It's hard.
[00:15:24] Speaker A: It's hard to hear me. It's hard when it comes to yourself because you're the one who started this crisis. Actor shit. You started it with Sandy Hook, too. It's hard to hear you going back.
[00:15:33] Speaker C: And then those kids are old now and they got their P pictures, and you like, yo, that's the kid that's supposed to be dead.
Like, like, this was your argument.
[00:15:40] Speaker A: It's hard for me to hear you argue against it because Prince Reggie finally caught up to you. But you think he's agreeing with me. He's agreeing with you.
[00:15:46] Speaker B: What happened to Tyrone?
[00:15:50] Speaker C: No, I mean, I think the NFL event, I think the Netflix was that test run to be able to handle the NFL.
[00:15:57] Speaker B: So was it real or not, Fred?
[00:15:58] Speaker D: That's I think it was real. That was kind of the talk and whatnot was that it was her audition. Because they were basically like, you know, if they're trying to have exclusive games and things of that nature, you need to test. You can't have that sort of thing happening.
[00:16:11] Speaker C: You have to test it. And then you can do tests, like internal tests. But the best test is doing it, actually doing it.
[00:16:17] Speaker A: Some people said they were just trolling. For instance. No. Evander Holyfield.
[00:16:22] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:16:22] Speaker A: Earphone didn't work. Why couldn't he hear? Why couldn't Evander hear? Of all people, to not be able to hear the nigga that got his ear.
[00:16:28] Speaker D: Let me guess, the ear that was missed. That was the one that he couldn't hear out of.
[00:16:32] Speaker C: And then apparently with the buffering that Netflix was experiencing, the people that got it the worst was like Europeans. It was like people. That's not even in America.
[00:16:42] Speaker B: It was happening in America.
[00:16:45] Speaker D: I was at a house. I was at a house and they were streaming it on like three TVs or whatever and all three of them were going crazy. I had that on a pirate site and that was working flawlessly all night. That's hard.
[00:16:58] Speaker C: But what if that was the people's WI fi up and not necessarily Netflix?
[00:17:01] Speaker D: So just some people WI fi fucking up was leading to like articles being written that are like across the country?
[00:17:08] Speaker A: Well, no, but hold on, think about those. Like, right, let's just say that. Let's just say that a group of people in this nest of the fiber optic network or whatever, we're all watching at the same time. Netflix can't control what ATT's router system can do at this point, this access.
[00:17:24] Speaker D: Point is down and that's what will be there.
[00:17:26] Speaker A: That one gets. That's not Netflix's fault though, is it? But is it though?
[00:17:30] Speaker C: I mean, Netflix can provide. Is the.
[00:17:31] Speaker D: To be honest, yes and no.
[00:17:33] Speaker A: So when Netflix watching a movie and Netflix buffers, you think it's Netflix that's fucking up or your. Your Internet?
[00:17:38] Speaker B: Well, when I watch B.
[00:17:39] Speaker D: Or could not.
[00:17:40] Speaker B: When I watch the NFL Paramount, you.
[00:17:42] Speaker D: Know, all I know is, is that Netflix does pay to net to Internet providers to open up more ports for their content versus others. So if you're doing shit like that.
[00:17:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:54] Speaker D: Why can't that be true?
[00:17:55] Speaker A: Why can't what be true?
[00:17:56] Speaker D: Why can't them something being like something playing and being fucked up, why can't that be on?
[00:18:01] Speaker B: Well, all I know is when I watch Thursday night, that's why I said.
[00:18:03] Speaker D: It could be or it could not be.
[00:18:05] Speaker B: I don't have that problem. Or this Thursday night.
[00:18:08] Speaker A: That's because nobody gives a fuck about football. Y'all the only one.
[00:18:10] Speaker D: No, because Prime's not going to have that issue. Amazon not going to have that issue.
Amazon's not going to have that issue.
[00:18:18] Speaker A: No, I don't agree. There's no. There's no disaster.
[00:18:20] Speaker C: Last year they used to look at. What was the last year when they first started, they had a little buffering problem.
[00:18:25] Speaker A: They don't even have good teams on Thursday night. Rarely do they even have good teams play Thursday night.
[00:18:29] Speaker B: That's. That's old. That's old.
[00:18:30] Speaker D: I'm about saying no.
[00:18:31] Speaker A: They got I saw Indianapolis in somebody game this year. Nobody watched that game. Nobody watched that. Man. The amount of people who tune into Netflix compared to the amount of people tuning to Thursday Night Football. Come on. My. No, you know, that's not even close to the same number, bro.
[00:18:44] Speaker B: Are you kidding me? It's. Look at the NFL.
[00:18:46] Speaker A: Look it up.
[00:18:47] Speaker B: It's the NFL.
[00:18:47] Speaker A: It's a Thursday night game.
[00:18:49] Speaker B: Look at matter. It's the NFL. It's the king.
[00:18:52] Speaker A: If they had that many million view at that time, there may have been trouble. That's all I'm saying.
[00:18:56] Speaker B: Yeah, it's the NFL. NFL, okay. Like dominates anything.
[00:19:01] Speaker A: You got it. You got it.
[00:19:02] Speaker D: That event could have been bigger than a Thursday night game.
[00:19:05] Speaker A: It was.
[00:19:06] Speaker D: Because people that probably don't even watch sports exactly. Were tuning into that because of all the hype and things of that nature. I mean, kind of the same hype machine that B's been talking about that got WNBA popular is kind of the same sort of thing that they kind of use for that too.
[00:19:21] Speaker A: Has there been. Have there been numbers on whether this is the record event for all streaming?
[00:19:25] Speaker C: 60 million.
[00:19:26] Speaker A: Is it the most has ever been streamed ever at one time? Because I believe it is.
[00:19:29] Speaker D: I believe it is.
[00:19:30] Speaker A: It is. Mac, what are we talking about? This is the. Nobody's ever done this before. And you're saying they should have been flawless. Nobody. The.
[00:19:36] Speaker B: So the super bowl.
[00:19:37] Speaker A: The ISP had.
[00:19:38] Speaker C: Super bowl is not stream.
[00:19:39] Speaker A: Super bowl is not streamed. It's on tv, my nigga. That's what I'm saying. So most of people watching the super bowl are watching it on antenna.
[00:19:47] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:19:47] Speaker A: Because it's on a cable or through antenna.
[00:19:49] Speaker D: I promise you.
[00:19:50] Speaker A: Most of the people who watch the super watch through cable or through an antenna. The streaming thing is NBC too, and.
[00:19:56] Speaker C: It'S not even on a cable network.
[00:19:57] Speaker A: That's What I'm saying, it's regular tv.
[00:20:00] Speaker D: Well, it changes. It changes whoever pays the most right?
[00:20:05] Speaker A: Now, we've never seen a Super bowl that wasn't on a network tv, have we? No.
[00:20:09] Speaker D: Oh, no. They're.
[00:20:10] Speaker A: They're there. We've never seen a Super bowl that we're on network tv.
[00:20:12] Speaker D: The only. The only one that might even try to compete with that would be Amazon, but I can't see them winning.
[00:20:19] Speaker A: Who? Amazon? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:20:23] Speaker D: There's no way their subscription is not.
[00:20:25] Speaker C: As big as Amazon's Disney plus, is it? Because I know a lot of people.
[00:20:28] Speaker D: Can't you understand what all Disney owns?
[00:20:30] Speaker C: I understand what we own is damn.
[00:20:32] Speaker D: Near almost everything you're watching on TV is Disney.
[00:20:35] Speaker C: All of that. But I don't know if it ain't.
[00:20:37] Speaker D: Disney, it's probably AT and T. I.
[00:20:39] Speaker C: Just know they've been. Their stocks been going.
[00:20:41] Speaker A: They can go down there. Espn, Disney.
[00:20:45] Speaker B: Right.
[00:20:47] Speaker A: So my point is, though, Mac and what y'all. Y'all are. Y'all are kind of dissing in Netflix. But then nobody's ever done this.
[00:20:52] Speaker B: I'm not dissing Netflix. And that wasn't my argument. My argument, all I said is that, oh, go ahead. They got me to fucking think that it was something that it wasn't. And maybe I'm just ignorant, right, like, for believing it or, you know, I mean, but I thought that I was going to see a fight. It was hyped up like. I thought I was going to see fucking Tyson. This nigga slapping people. He's a fucking. He looks like he's in his old bag. And what I saw was that bullshit.
[00:21:18] Speaker A: Can I offer something?
[00:21:19] Speaker B: Like some dry pussy stanky?
[00:21:21] Speaker C: Like, damn dry stink, bro.
[00:21:23] Speaker B: Hairy.
[00:21:25] Speaker A: It wasn't good. Can I offer something?
[00:21:27] Speaker B: It wasn't. It wasn't watchable.
[00:21:29] Speaker A: This fight is. To me, this fight is very much like a lot of Mike Tyson's career fights.
[00:21:34] Speaker C: What do you mean?
[00:21:35] Speaker A: There's the lead up, and then it's 20 seconds long. Or it's kind of true.
[00:21:39] Speaker B: That's kind of true.
[00:21:40] Speaker A: So what are you. What are you seeing differently? Because either Mike Tyson mauls you in the first 45 seconds.
[00:21:43] Speaker B: Well, that's what I.
[00:21:44] Speaker A: And you like, God the fuck. Damn. Or he. He draws it out and gets beat on. You're like, oh, this isn't the right Tyson. This is the old Tyson. Think how many times we've seen this. Yeah, this isn't new. So I think maybe.
[00:21:54] Speaker B: Well, I wanted them all. Yeah, I wanted them all.
[00:21:56] Speaker A: I wanted it To. I wanted it to. But I'm happy that I got a chance to feel like that about boxing for a second.
[00:22:02] Speaker B: I mean, he said he was back, right? He said he, you know, had woke up with a demon in himself. Like, and you saw it and you believed it. I wanted to talk about fucking the nigga till he love him. Like, I wanted this nigga to be that dude again.
[00:22:12] Speaker A: Like, you know, he was like, I.
[00:22:13] Speaker D: Just wanted a better scripted.
[00:22:14] Speaker A: I don't want to have a legacy.
[00:22:15] Speaker B: Legacy.
[00:22:17] Speaker A: I don't want a legacy.
[00:22:18] Speaker B: And it's always something different, like, after the fact. Like, he was talking about, like, you know, my kids, you know, and he's talking about the kids, right? You know, my kids don't know shit, but they're gonna know after this fight.
[00:22:27] Speaker D: And I'm like, he didn't want to know that shit.
[00:22:29] Speaker B: Not, not, not what they Before.
[00:22:31] Speaker A: I don't want anybody to think of me as the old man. He said in all his interviews, he said I'm different now.
[00:22:35] Speaker D: He took 20 million to let. To show it. To let it be shown, basically, is.
[00:22:39] Speaker B: What I'm just going to fade into Bolivian. I'm just going to fade off into Bolivia.
[00:22:42] Speaker C: But I think it's. I think for me, what I liked about it is.
[00:22:44] Speaker A: Wait a minute. I'm sorry, Mac.
Bolivian.
[00:22:49] Speaker B: That's what he said.
[00:22:50] Speaker A: He said Bolivia said Bolivian.
[00:22:53] Speaker B: He said he's good after he got beat up. Said he was going to just in one of fights. And they said he was just gonna fade off into Bolivia's dumb. He is. But she still wouldn't say it to that. Like, I want the. That busted Green's face in the street, right?
[00:23:09] Speaker A: Like, Mike, you know, it's oblivion. Like, what the you talking about, right?
[00:23:11] Speaker B: Like, do you remember that when he busted Ms. Green's face, like, in public, in public like that? Like, what you ran up on me, bro. Like, I'll fuck you up on the street.
[00:23:20] Speaker A: I, I. Mike Tyson could be beating Robin Givens and wouldn't nobody stop him.
[00:23:24] Speaker B: No, right, right.
There was a. There was that.
And I think that's the thing, like, for people that never, like, you never saw that nigga French like you. You was. When Mike Tyson was at his peak. It was a fucking, like you said, a spectacle. It was. It was different. Like, he looked like he was crazy. He fought like he was crazy.
[00:23:46] Speaker C: He's from Brownsville.
[00:23:48] Speaker B: He fought like a nigga. That was never.
[00:23:50] Speaker A: It has no idea where Brownsville is in New York. But where is it, though?
[00:23:53] Speaker C: Brooklyn.
[00:23:54] Speaker A: Well, where, though? What. What is it? What is the neighborhood like?
[00:23:57] Speaker D: You.
[00:23:57] Speaker A: You have no idea.
[00:23:58] Speaker C: I'm not saying I'm from Brownsville.
[00:24:01] Speaker B: What you respect.
[00:24:05] Speaker D: He from Brownsville. I said, oh, they ruthless.
[00:24:09] Speaker B: You don't know about the Brownsville.
[00:24:10] Speaker D: They do in Brownsville.
Like Mike Tyson over there.
[00:24:16] Speaker C: I never met somebody from Brownsville. That. That's kind.
[00:24:18] Speaker A: Yes, you have Sierra Rogers. She's from Brownsville. She's from Best.
[00:24:21] Speaker D: So. So wait, so. So from. From Brownsville is like Mike.
[00:24:27] Speaker B: Who else is he? I just want to know who else he's met from Brownsville.
[00:24:30] Speaker C: A few.
[00:24:31] Speaker D: Is there somebody else from Brownsville that they know?
[00:24:33] Speaker B: This is like the few. This is like the contractor.
This is like the contractor I've met all my life. We're from Brownsville because you know what the contractor told you?
[00:24:45] Speaker C: What? That young millionaires was not gonna buy houses?
[00:24:48] Speaker B: No, they were building. You said something. The reason why we're building this is because of the future of the. This, that, the other. Like nothing.
[00:24:55] Speaker C: Yeah, that's exactly.
[00:24:56] Speaker A: We're doing apartments only.
[00:24:57] Speaker C: That's what they were saying.
[00:24:59] Speaker B: Yeah, housing. Neighborhoods are going up, bro, like everywhere.
[00:25:03] Speaker A: Most the contract.
[00:25:04] Speaker C: Most of the new buildings that are being built right now are either condos or apartments.
[00:25:09] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:25:09] Speaker B: Some houses are still being built their fucking whole like.
[00:25:13] Speaker D: But not like that.
[00:25:14] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, they're not. They're not building single family homes like.
[00:25:17] Speaker A: They used to preach. French preach like they used to.
[00:25:19] Speaker B: You see you didn't fucked around and got fucking park all kind of like, how does he know who's buying them?
[00:25:26] Speaker C: What do you mean?
[00:25:27] Speaker B: Like you guys were just spouting shit though.
[00:25:30] Speaker D: Like. No, I said. I just got done reading shit about how basically is these companies that are buying the houses so they can rent them out.
[00:25:37] Speaker B: Oh yeah, that's what I said.
[00:25:38] Speaker D: I didn't say that. They're just building apartments and things of that nature.
[00:25:42] Speaker A: And what I was.
[00:25:42] Speaker D: I just said that it isn't families that are buying the houses that are being built.
[00:25:45] Speaker C: That part.
[00:25:46] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. That's fine.
[00:25:47] Speaker A: What are y'all drinking to? The internal crumbling.
[00:25:49] Speaker B: Yeah, like. I mean like the. To just French Reggie's knowledge. French Reggie's. French Reggie's network system. Like French Reggie knows have a strong network. Yeah. Bed sty like Brownsville to his Brownsville connects. Come on.
[00:26:03] Speaker D: I need to plug into that network, bro. Listen, they know everything.
[00:26:06] Speaker B: And again, I. I just could imagine.
[00:26:08] Speaker A: Remove the mic stand now. You don't have to worry about it. You know what I'm saying? You can push it out of the way and pull it right back.
[00:26:12] Speaker B: Cheers.
[00:26:13] Speaker D: You didn't think about it. I knew what she was talking about. I don't think everybody else knows that.
[00:26:21] Speaker B: Four Roses.
[00:26:22] Speaker A: Four Roses Bourbon.
[00:26:24] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:26:27] Speaker A: Nobody can hear you, French, if you're trying to give an advertisement.
[00:26:30] Speaker C: Four Roses Bourbon. Yeah, I might have to keep getting that now.
[00:26:33] Speaker B: Yeah, that's nice, yo.
[00:26:35] Speaker C: That's pretty good.
[00:26:36] Speaker A: You even follow on drinks, bro? You don't have, like, any of your own things.
[00:26:39] Speaker B: He brought that barbacoa.
[00:26:42] Speaker A: I couldn't even smell that.
[00:26:43] Speaker C: It's a Haitian rum. Pac was making a face.
[00:26:46] Speaker D: Well, I didn't know what the hell y'all was talking about.
[00:26:48] Speaker C: That's a Haitian.
[00:26:49] Speaker B: What's it called again?
[00:26:50] Speaker C: No taste. Just pure.
[00:26:52] Speaker B: No, really.
[00:26:53] Speaker A: Huh?
[00:26:55] Speaker B: Yeah, that is.
[00:26:56] Speaker A: It tastes like babon Cool, too. That's the noise you make.
That's the noise you make.
[00:27:01] Speaker B: It's not great. It's not good at all. So. Yeah, okay. So I guess we didn't fall for the shit it was planned to be that. And I was the only one that fell for it. Everybody else.
[00:27:10] Speaker A: No, we all fell for it. I'm just okay with falling for it. I felt good. It felt good. It felt like the 90s again for a second, but.
[00:27:16] Speaker C: Jimmy Mac, what's your problem?
[00:27:17] Speaker A: I was upset that night. I was like, oh, that could have been better. But I still.
[00:27:21] Speaker B: It was a fucking hard.
[00:27:22] Speaker D: I wasn't upset because them two fights were great.
[00:27:23] Speaker A: Yeah, but.
[00:27:24] Speaker B: Oh, but that's not.
[00:27:25] Speaker A: But, Mac, what I'm trying to get you to understand is until that moment where he just looked like he stopped trying and Jake Paul stopped punching. Up until that moment, I loved everything about the experience.
[00:27:34] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:27:34] Speaker D: Walk in everything.
[00:27:36] Speaker A: So I'm not gonna just shit on the whole thing because I didn't like that laugh. Cause I had so much. I had so much enjoyment being. Enjoyment. Being tricked into thinking Mike Tyson's about to fuck this nigga up. I really enjoyed the day leading up to the fight, bro. I was like, my nigga. I can't wait to see him knock this nigga.
[00:27:51] Speaker B: The making out and the kissing on the neck and all of that.
[00:27:53] Speaker A: That's beautiful. That's what I needed. I needed that. Now. The payoff would have been awesome and great, but, you know, I'm not saying I'm settling for the foreplay, but the foreplay was nice. We can't discredit the foreplay.
[00:28:04] Speaker B: I just need to get more back in the foreplay.
[00:28:06] Speaker A: You ain't got a nut every time you fall.
[00:28:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I need to get more back into the foreplay.
[00:28:10] Speaker C: And also too, if he did knock Jake Paul out. Jake Paul seems to look like he's going to have a business lane in the world of boxing for a couple years. If he gets knocked out, you stop.
[00:28:22] Speaker A: That flow of business as a young dude. That's why he, that's why he's looking.
[00:28:26] Speaker C: At Jack for a couple of years.
[00:28:27] Speaker A: No, you're not wrong.
[00:28:28] Speaker D: No, you're not, you're just wrong. To us, you're not wrong, you're just.
[00:28:30] Speaker A: Wrong to us you're not wrong.
[00:28:32] Speaker C: But I'm just looking at it from.
[00:28:33] Speaker A: A business perspective and we're looking at it from a boxing perspective and that's why Jake Paul fans are not paying attention to. Not the greatest boxer. He's not the quickest boxer to get from A to B. He's none of those things he says he is. He won't fight a real fighter in real with real stakes, cuz but he.
[00:28:49] Speaker C: Can bring a crowd and that's what the business is all about.
[00:28:51] Speaker A: And that's the business side, which is what a lot of younger people think is more important than the older who like man boxing. Like you got to have some integrity in this. Like we were, we were raised on integrity.
[00:29:01] Speaker C: And I love, I love, I love hearing that hearing.
[00:29:04] Speaker B: I mean like we all know. So like we talked about the real matches that went on and the integrity you're talking about which is often not there in boxing.
[00:29:15] Speaker D: Right.
[00:29:16] Speaker B: Like, like, like, like with the girl, like she got robbed. Yeah. There was no integrity in that. Like everybody, the fans knew it, she knew it. Everybody like they booed immediately. But that's, we've seen that.
[00:29:28] Speaker A: But the chick, what's the other girl's name? Not the Serrano, but the other one. Kelsey or Katie Holmes?
[00:29:33] Speaker B: Yeah, not Katie Holmes.
[00:29:35] Speaker A: Katie somebody.
[00:29:36] Speaker B: Yeah, I think Katie Taylor was it Kat Taylor.
[00:29:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Even though she won. She earned that ass whooping too though. She didn't, it didn't, like she didn't get punched.
[00:29:43] Speaker B: Which one, which one was. I think it was not Pacquiao. Not. There was the other dude that was getting his ass whooped by the black dude for like the whole fight and he ended up winning. Like I, I forget the name of that.
Him and Pacquiao used to have fights, good ass fights. I can't think of it. I think it might have been a Mexican. He's not even Asia now. But that we've seen this before where you have a fucking lopsided fight and it just doesn't go the way it's supposed to go.
[00:30:13] Speaker A: But it was a good fight, though. And that girl got her ass whooped. Even though she won, she still got hit in the face a lot of times. So the difference in Jake Paul and his situation is he's going home. He's gonna go on a date tomorrow, right? She not going on no date tomorrow. Cause she can't.
[00:30:25] Speaker B: Right?
[00:30:26] Speaker A: Cause she go out there. You see what I'm saying? So even if.
[00:30:28] Speaker D: Even if boxing matches, Jake Paul went to the club. That's what I'm saying.
[00:30:31] Speaker A: Even if boxing matches have an integrity problem on the business side, the fight fighting side still has integrity.
[00:30:37] Speaker B: Yes. Okay.
[00:30:38] Speaker A: You got to be ready to get your ass whooped to get into a ring with another nigga that's trying to whoop your ass.
[00:30:42] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel you.
[00:30:42] Speaker A: That's not the same as what Jake Paul is because there's not the same stakes.
[00:30:46] Speaker B: So, again, so. I don't know. I know French Reggie said that he's ready to sign up for the next.
[00:30:52] Speaker A: He might be his stretcher.
[00:30:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I could see.
[00:30:55] Speaker A: Would you stress Jake Paul? Yeah. Okay. He said that with conviction.
[00:30:59] Speaker B: Like, conviction, good money. Yeah, I bet. So what would you. I mean, like. Nevermind, never mind. I didn't want stretch today. Look, I'm not. I'm not trying to be your pimp, but, like, I feel like I could be like. Yeah. For money. I think, you know, I think Fred.
[00:31:15] Speaker A: Would be an easy hoe.
[00:31:16] Speaker C: Can we.
[00:31:16] Speaker A: No, for sure he's amicable.
[00:31:18] Speaker C: Can we?
[00:31:19] Speaker A: Because he, like, he likes to please the customer so much, he'll change himself to make the customer satisfied.
[00:31:22] Speaker B: And again, he's a. He's a millennial or he. What? Yeah. So he's about the business. So if I, like, if I just give him. Yeah. Like, listen, you get 60, like, you a new age ho. Like, these other hoes is getting crumbs crazy.
[00:31:35] Speaker A: He'll tweet about it too. He'll, like, put it on.
[00:31:37] Speaker B: You get social media, you get 60. All I want is 20.
[00:31:39] Speaker D: 24 is different now. You can't hoe shame no more.
[00:31:41] Speaker A: Yeah, shame.
[00:31:43] Speaker B: I just want.
[00:31:43] Speaker D: I just want to be proud of that shit. And we're supposed to celebrate it.
[00:31:46] Speaker C: But can we talk about, like, that business thing, though? Like, for me, I'm seeing a whole bigger play besides just boxing and entertainment, of course.
[00:31:55] Speaker A: What are you seeing, French?
[00:31:57] Speaker C: I'm seeing that once the tech companies get involved, a lot of shitty things starts to happen. Like, that's how you were talking earlier about that point the Netflix I mean shady things has always been happening. But like with the tech being like with Netflix, Amazon, all those tech companies are now entering the sports field. Sports betting becoming bigger and bigger year, year after year. I feel like we're going to continue to have the like what Jamie Mac is calling bullshit in anything entertainment related or sports related because the tech companies now are involved. They can play with the tech, they can utilize whatever data they're getting to either please the crowd, not please the crowd, created some type of fake commotion. Even shit was going on right now in the, in the beef with Drake Suling. It's all tech related. It's not even about the product anymore.
[00:32:50] Speaker B: It hit me because you know I'll be out on the road.
[00:32:52] Speaker A: Drake suing umg, umg Universal Music Group for, for flating the. Or changing the value of a stream for Kendrick so that he could profit more and get more spins on Not Like Us. Yeah, here's the problem with that.
[00:33:07] Speaker C: That's.
[00:33:07] Speaker D: Wait, what?
[00:33:08] Speaker A: Here's the problem with that.
[00:33:08] Speaker C: That's a. That's on some real business shit here.
[00:33:11] Speaker A: Here's the problem with that. I don't agree with Drake's timing, but you know, he's right.
[00:33:15] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:33:15] Speaker A: This is what Taylor Swift sued Spotify for earlier a few years ago. Everyone knows that the record labels are major stockholders in Spotify, Apple Music, they own stock. They're owners of the streaming platforms. And so they negotiate a different rate that the artists don't get access to. So the amount of a stream right now is something like.00001 cents per stream. And every artist just has to deal with that. Why? Because the streaming platforms are in bed with the labels. The labels on major stocks in the streaming platforms. So they work together and there's no oversight to the point.
[00:33:49] Speaker B: So what's his.
[00:33:49] Speaker A: What's his most current beef is funny I said that. Pun intended. Drake's most current beef is that what they did was they devalued the amount of a stream so that more streams could come in or something.
[00:34:01] Speaker C: The distribution of Not Like Us.
[00:34:03] Speaker A: Right.
[00:34:03] Speaker C: They brought it down 30% so that.
[00:34:05] Speaker A: Not Like Us would appear to be more valuable than it was and get more streams than it was. And it looks like it's a bigger thing. The problem I see is that he needs to be worried about his own situation because I know for a fact. Well, no, let me, let me take that back. Allegedly little not Lil Kim, Nicki Minaj and Wayne album sales back in the day, back when we had sound scan numbers were physical. Physical Items. They were going and buying a million dollars worth of Nicki Minaj CDs. Going, making her go platinum, right? And then the other stuff was just what the humans were actually buying. They were buying them. They were platinum on their own. The reason why that's a genius move back was because if Nicki Minaj is a platinum selling artist, when I do a show now, I can charge more. Cause she's obviously a platinum artist, but.
[00:34:52] Speaker C: What'S the difference of them buying a million copies of their album? When Jay Z got Samsung to buy a million copies of his album, and.
[00:34:58] Speaker A: That was the evolution of it, we were gonna do it on one of my artists too. You buy this phone, you get a preloaded copy of my artist's album on the phone. Our deal fell through. But Jay Z's did. Remember that little Samsung Magna Carta. Magna Carta, Yeah, Magna Carta. So you buy that Samsung phone, it's comes preloaded with Jay Z's album. That also counts as one sale. So everybody who buys that phone makes a sale. If I sell a million phones, that's a million. That's a million sales.
[00:35:22] Speaker B: What's the name of did that too, right? Apple, YouTube, YouTube.
[00:35:25] Speaker C: YouTube, yeah, YouTube. Just put that shit on your phone.
[00:35:27] Speaker A: So the problem here is that the labels have too much say in what the streaming platforms are willing to pay the artists because they're partners. And so artists are like, what the fuck? And Taylor Swift was like, nah, fuck y'all. Y'all not. I don't want my music on your streaming platform. Because you are the. Of all the streaming platform spots, you're the worst. You're the worst at this. And now here we are again. Fast forward four or five years. Drake is now having a problem with Spotify and Universal Music Group again.
[00:35:52] Speaker B: Well, she did it with Apple too. First. She did it with itunes. Right.
[00:35:56] Speaker C: And there's only three artists that could possibly do that type of lawsuit. There's Drake, Taylor Swift, and probably Beyonce.
[00:36:01] Speaker B: But no, she didn't do a lawsuit. She just.
[00:36:03] Speaker A: She said, y'all.
[00:36:05] Speaker D: Beyonce.
[00:36:06] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, but beyond.
[00:36:07] Speaker B: Definitely.
[00:36:07] Speaker A: But not Beyonce. Definitely.
[00:36:08] Speaker B: Definitely.
[00:36:09] Speaker D: But not.
[00:36:10] Speaker C: She seems to be like.
[00:36:12] Speaker B: I'm gonna need you to say her name real quick, though.
[00:36:13] Speaker D: Beyonce.
[00:36:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Because you didn't put an end in there a couple times. Beyonce.
[00:36:17] Speaker C: Yeah. It's just she seems to be like corporate friendly. That's what I'm saying. Beyonce seems so far. She seems to be diplomatic.
[00:36:24] Speaker A: She's very diplomatic.
[00:36:26] Speaker C: While Drake and Taylor Swift. Never seen, never showed that.
[00:36:29] Speaker A: I think Drake is just ass Hurt because of all this stuff.
[00:36:32] Speaker B: Why?
[00:36:32] Speaker A: Hold on, hold on.
[00:36:33] Speaker C: Because he lost.
[00:36:34] Speaker A: He's asked her he's ass heard about this stuff that's going on and, and he picked a terrible time to be a righteous nigga.
[00:36:40] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:36:40] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? Like he's, he's thinking, well this will get me back on the boat. Because people, everybody has to agree with it. And the fact is everybody does agree with you, Drake. The problem is it's poor fucking timing.
[00:36:50] Speaker B: This going back to what Pac said earlier when, before we started recording. That nigga is extra sensitive. Like there's some like. No, no, seriously. Like the fact that like we talked about it, you know, in the show where he was fucking dogging Derozan and, and like who does that? Like you. I mean you're, you're in.
[00:37:08] Speaker D: It's just that it just, it reminds me of this homeboy I got where ages cracking me up. Because anytime there's any sort of thing like he's like, like bro, like that's some, that's what a should do. And that's what I think about every time I think about shit like that.
He do a lot of it was.
[00:37:23] Speaker A: It was the reason why. And I, and I got called out listeners today, Pac and Matt called me out. They said that I was a Drake Stan fan, whatever on that episode. I apologize if I. If I gave that impression. I was more talking about the situation itself and not necessarily having a kinship or a fanship to Drake. In fact, I used to forbid Drake to be played in my car with my wife because I'm dead. I was like, I don't want this soft ass insecure like appealing to the woman. Like I don't want this energy around me. Cause you don't think all light skinned n is way you can ask my wife. It was forbidden. He was trying to out light skinned Drake was forbidden.
[00:37:58] Speaker D: That's so funny. Cause everything he just listed are all the reasons why I never liked him.
[00:38:02] Speaker C: But this is what made Drake though.
[00:38:03] Speaker A: So you know that I'm real.
[00:38:04] Speaker D: I get it. Look, it's one of those things. I get why he is so popular. I get why everybody likes him. And I don't hate on what his success is. I just prefer not to play his music.
[00:38:17] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, but so this is what.
[00:38:20] Speaker D: That's why I don't talk about the beef. Because like I already said to anybody who asked, I'm 100%.
[00:38:24] Speaker C: But if this is a successful lawsuit though, if he kind of wins it.
[00:38:28] Speaker A: He won't.
[00:38:29] Speaker C: Yeah, but I Don't think you could ever beat the Giants.
[00:38:30] Speaker A: Them niggas actually came back and said some integrity shit.
[00:38:33] Speaker C: Yeah. Did you see the quote that you just lost?
[00:38:36] Speaker A: No, no, they didn't. That's what the people said. They were like, we always hold our integrity to the utmost standard, and we take care of our artists on a consistent basis. We've always had evidence of this. And. But, nigga, what, Are you kidding me? Nigga.
[00:38:48] Speaker B: But isn't Drake the same one that had a special contract too? Like. Well, that's.
[00:38:52] Speaker C: That's the whole reason why this. Also, because now they got to re up again.
[00:38:55] Speaker A: See, the problem is he had eye. They gave him eyes on this shit. So now he has a different perspective than other artists do, and that's their fault.
[00:39:01] Speaker B: Right.
[00:39:02] Speaker A: I'm just saying, I feel like Drake, the reason why this is a bitch move is because you waited until you're unfavorable and now you're trying to get back in good graces by playing this card. Would you have done this? Would you have done this if there were no beef and you didn't feel butt hurt because you were still making billions while all the other artists were fucking starving?
[00:39:21] Speaker B: Right.
[00:39:21] Speaker A: So now you're doing this starving artist bullshit, and it's gonna help a whole bunch of artists. So you're hoping that all these n jump back on your team. That to me, is not in. That's not integrity. That's some bitch.
[00:39:31] Speaker C: And then they've also used the same tactic that you're suing for. They've used that tactic to help you.
[00:39:36] Speaker A: Exactly. You know, there's no way they didn't.
[00:39:38] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. That's the only reason.
[00:39:40] Speaker A: That's why I brought up the Nicki Minaj and Lil Wayne, because guess who he signed to. You think they didn't do that to him back in the day? You think they didn't buy copies of his album on itunes? I don't know what CDs were saying.
[00:39:50] Speaker C: No, no, no, they did.
[00:39:51] Speaker A: They bought a million.
[00:39:52] Speaker C: There's even video of him out with J. Cole buying J. Cole's album when he came out back in.
[00:39:56] Speaker A: No, but I'm saying no, no, no. You're talking about one season.
[00:39:59] Speaker C: No, no, they went to Best Buy.
[00:40:01] Speaker A: No, you're talking about 50C. Nigga, I'm talking about a million.
They had to set up where they would send niggas.
[00:40:08] Speaker D: You need a truck for your shoes.
[00:40:09] Speaker A: Yeah, right. Like you would send off, like, a street team member. Street teams. Back in the day, listeners who were younger, street team what it was is your album was about to come out. You get a bunch of niggas to go to clubs at night and pass out flyers. People in the streets putting up posters. The street team would go out and be like your forward facing promotions, right? They had street teams with the vans going across the country buying albums, bro. Like, so that way it wasn't like it was so scan.
[00:40:33] Speaker D: So it wasn't all in one place.
[00:40:33] Speaker A: Sound skin wouldn't say, oh, Atlanta had a mean sales at one store. Obviously y'all bought it. They would send their street teams out to buy it across the country. So it looked like it was unique.
[00:40:42] Speaker D: And sold across the country.
[00:40:44] Speaker A: You think Drake didn't get that love from Universal? My stop. Young Money, Come on, man, stop it.
[00:40:50] Speaker C: But that's what I'm saying. Like when with the tech companies being involved, they have the power to manipulate the whole entire.
[00:40:57] Speaker D: And I'm saying this has been going on before the tech company.
[00:41:01] Speaker A: Let me, let me take it one step further because I didn't think about something what y'all also fail to realize. And you probably have heard this, but you didn't correlate it. Universal Motown's deal with Cash Money was the first of its kind. Because Universal gave Cash Money pretty much all the ownership to the masters. They only wanted to share in the distribution. So that means that Cash Money is making like 80, 90% of their record sales anyway. No other label, they shut that whole shit down after Baby and Slim and made that deal. They shut that whole idea down. So first of all, we talking about this is built off of Cash Money. Who is Young Money, who is Drake's whatever shit. All that shit is based off of the deal they made with Universal back in the 90s or whatever. The Hot boys and Juvenile.
[00:41:50] Speaker B: Juvenile, yeah.
[00:41:51] Speaker A: Not. Is that them?
[00:41:53] Speaker B: He was the original.
[00:41:54] Speaker D: Wayne was in there too. He was like 13 or something. But.
[00:41:57] Speaker B: But that was the first artist.
[00:41:58] Speaker D: But the first artist was Juvenile. Yeah, yeah.
[00:42:01] Speaker A: And remember Lil Wayne had a beef with them about his money. Like this shit is way deeper than you thinking.
[00:42:08] Speaker B: He was like 15.
[00:42:09] Speaker D: Would you just mention Drake's current Mercedes with no license?
[00:42:14] Speaker C: Drake's current Universal deal is the same exact way he owns all his masters. They just got to distribute the music. That's why they had to give him the 400 million. And now he recouped it so fast because he dropped an album every year. Even shit that he already had released, he re released that they have to now recoup pay him again. And this is when this whole and I'm trying to now he's more expensive.
[00:42:33] Speaker A: You don't think, you don't think Drake knew what he's suing for right now? 20 years ago, 50, 10 years ago. Or not 20, but 10 years ago you don't.
[00:42:40] Speaker C: Cuz even in old songs he was already mentioning it, bro.
[00:42:42] Speaker A: He knew this, but he saved it till now. And that's why it's ass. Because he saved it until the heat is on his ass and people are. It's kind of unfavorable.
[00:42:50] Speaker D: And every time you say that reminds me of Colin Kaepernick. That's what people say about Colin Kaepernick.
[00:42:55] Speaker C: But this makes me feel.
[00:42:56] Speaker D: You waited until you was nobody and then you start bringing up all this.
[00:43:00] Speaker B: Wait a minute. So. But to me it seemed like Drake even know he lost.
[00:43:07] Speaker C: Oh yeah, you, you, you know you lost.
[00:43:09] Speaker A: I, I still don't necessarily.
[00:43:11] Speaker B: So why you, why would he act this way if he didn't think that he lost or if he didn't think.
[00:43:14] Speaker D: Hey, did anybody respond when Cuz you said you was asking for people that listen to the show to respond and what they thought?
[00:43:20] Speaker B: No, I don't think so. But, But I know that. I know this is how it all came up is because Nathan nice, you know, he's the one that dropped it in the slack.
[00:43:27] Speaker D: Was like, you ain't. You ain't with this be right like.
[00:43:30] Speaker B: And again. And it's like. Well be like. Who said that? It was like. That's how you came off.
[00:43:34] Speaker A: That's why I didn't get that impression of myself. That's why I wanted to apologize to everyone because I am not at all a Drake. My goodness, if you knew the disdain I had for this light skinned.
[00:43:42] Speaker D: For the record. For the record. I did. I did correct what, what you thought. I thought. I didn't think you was like super Drake fan. I just thought you were anti Kendrick.
[00:43:52] Speaker A: Okay, okay. And I get that because they're in the beef, but I was looking at.
[00:43:55] Speaker B: The logic of you are anti Kendrick, right?
[00:43:57] Speaker A: Anti Kendrick. Kendrick. I hate, I hate the munchkin voice and I've always said that. I said that I thought his albums were pretty good. He's a good rapper, but it's like I can't put him in my top five because of the munchkin voice and I can't because of the munchkin voice. Come on, I gotta be shitting on because of that.
[00:44:12] Speaker B: No, I mean, but this got multiple voices, right? It's like. Okay, that's not, that's One song. Come on, bro.
[00:44:20] Speaker A: I like. All right.
[00:44:21] Speaker D: That's like a character.
[00:44:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't like the character. I like.
[00:44:24] Speaker B: All right, but he's got. He's got.
[00:44:26] Speaker A: All right, hold up. Hold up. Is my. All right. Is my. And there's one more.
Oh, Money trees. Those are my shits.
[00:44:35] Speaker B: Okay? So.
[00:44:35] Speaker A: My shits.
[00:44:36] Speaker B: So. So let's. Let's. Let's trans. Yeah, yeah. J Rock.
[00:44:39] Speaker D: But there's. I mean, like. You don't like Hood Politics, though.
[00:44:42] Speaker A: I don't even know what that is.
[00:44:43] Speaker D: Yeah, that's probably the problem.
[00:44:44] Speaker B: So this is the thing, too.
[00:44:45] Speaker A: So I still haven't listened to Mad Stepper, Hot Stepper. I haven't listened to.
[00:44:48] Speaker D: No, no. Hood Politics is on the Pima Butterfly.
[00:44:51] Speaker A: I listen to Pimp Butterfly, but it was. It was kind of weird to me.
[00:44:54] Speaker D: So Hood Politics was a song. He was talking about the Democrats and the Republicans.
[00:44:58] Speaker A: I'll listen to it if you. If you. If you tell me that one song, I'll go back and listen.
[00:45:01] Speaker D: It's called Hood Politics.
[00:45:02] Speaker B: So. So can we. Let's transition to the new album.
[00:45:04] Speaker A: Okay?
[00:45:05] Speaker B: So you.
[00:45:06] Speaker A: No, don't make this about me. Y'all say what y'all feel about the album. Come on, man. Don't make.
[00:45:09] Speaker D: Are we talking about the album?
[00:45:10] Speaker A: Yeah, let's talk. He said he want to transition. Y'all talk about what y'all think about the album. Don't put it on me to. To hate or like. Come on, man.
[00:45:16] Speaker B: Well, you already sent us you. Cuz. Again, you were on me saying that I. The way that I'm looking at this album is what's wrong with America today.
[00:45:24] Speaker A: Okay?
[00:45:25] Speaker C: Kendrick's new album.
[00:45:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:45:26] Speaker C: He said that to you?
[00:45:27] Speaker B: I did, yes. Because before you got here, I did.
[00:45:29] Speaker A: Well, here, let me explain why. So you're gonna make this about me? I didn't even want to make this about me, bro.
[00:45:34] Speaker D: You're gonna make this about.
[00:45:35] Speaker C: In America.
[00:45:37] Speaker A: Listeners. Listeners, I promise you there's some agenda going on right now.
[00:45:41] Speaker D: You're gonna make this.
[00:45:43] Speaker A: As opposed to them giving their favor about this album and tell y'all why they love it. They would rather bring up what I said about him so that we can put me as the nemesis and we can have this argument. I want to know. I want you to know this is happening real time. I did not choose this.
[00:45:58] Speaker B: You are the antagonist, okay?
[00:46:00] Speaker A: I did not choose this. Listeners. This is my nigga doing this to me.
[00:46:03] Speaker B: Okay?
[00:46:04] Speaker A: So you asked for it.
I didn't want to do.
[00:46:07] Speaker C: What's wrong With America.
[00:46:08] Speaker B: Right?
[00:46:09] Speaker A: So the idea I had was, what's wrong with Jamie Mac is the same thing that's wrong with. With this kindred uproar. Right? So he's saying, everybody understands. It's obvious. And I'm saying. Well, I don't think that it's obvious because there are a lot of people who are on the other side saying this album is mid. Saying this album is too West Coast. Yes. Saying this album is trash. Saying this album is like, what? I don't even like this.
[00:46:31] Speaker C: I haven't heard none of those.
[00:46:32] Speaker A: They like this even in the best album this month. That's what I'm saying, though. The problem with America is when I said that to Jamie Mack, him and Pac looking like, nigga, what are you nuts?
[00:46:39] Speaker B: Look at French Reggie's acting. He's. He's looking at you like you're.
[00:46:42] Speaker D: No.
[00:46:43] Speaker A: And that's what I'm saying is wrong with America. Right. I have a feeling we're in bigger trouble than we thought. We thought it was just about politics. These niggas now got us confused of whether or not this is a good album. When has that ever happened? No, you're fucking wrong. And that's why I need you to hear me right now. Hold on. You're not paying attention, Mac. You are wrong. It's not a surefire fit. There is an entire group of people who do not agree with you about this album.
[00:47:09] Speaker C: That's any album that ever comes out.
[00:47:11] Speaker A: No, no, no, too, though. You started off with not every album that comes up. Pac and Jamie Mac looked at me like, nigga, you stupid. Like, there's no way. There's. Everybody knows this is the pin in the period at the end of the sentence. Everybody gets it. And I'm saying to them, no, they don't get it. And in fact, y'all, for the record.
[00:47:30] Speaker D: I'm being put in this boat and.
[00:47:31] Speaker A: Oh, you didn't agree with me.
[00:47:32] Speaker D: I wasn't in that.
[00:47:33] Speaker A: Okay, okay, okay, My bad.
[00:47:34] Speaker D: Because I was the one that actually said, well, if we come from that perspective, what is victory? Who actually won? How do we know?
[00:47:41] Speaker A: I sent a dm. I sent a DM earlier today.
[00:47:44] Speaker D: Oh, you're talking about anybody that talks.
[00:47:46] Speaker C: Shit about the album with, like, hardcore Drake fans.
[00:47:48] Speaker B: That's what I told you.
[00:47:49] Speaker A: But, see, but, Cena, that's the best. The bullshit right there. You sound like Republicans and Democrats. Now, anybody who doesn't think this the best album of the year is a.
[00:47:55] Speaker C: Drake, I'm not saying you have to say it's the best album of the year.
[00:47:57] Speaker A: What are you saying? What. What line?
[00:47:59] Speaker C: Good album.
[00:48:00] Speaker A: If there's any line that you have to cross and you say that's not possible, that's the problem right there.
[00:48:04] Speaker C: That's what you are.
[00:48:05] Speaker A: You are not open to any other suggestions than your own belief. And you're just going to. All you're listening to is the people that sound like you. We have all become part of.
[00:48:12] Speaker C: So that's what you are.
[00:48:13] Speaker A: So it's not even a sense of. There's some people who are in echo and we're not them. We're all them now. Every single one of us is them. They've gotten into the point where we're not arguing about Donald Trump and Kamala Harris anymore. We're really arguing about whether or not GNX is a good album. And I'm talking about Ready to Fight. And like, you, nigga so dumb. All y'all, y'all just want. Because y'all are Drake fans and y'all do this, this, this and that. Oh, because you're Kendrick fans, y'all do this, this, this, this, and that. And now it's got to the point where every single thing has been broken up to where whatever you believe is the only way that it can.
[00:48:45] Speaker C: Okay? That's what you are.
[00:48:46] Speaker B: So, I mean, Christianity that way for a long time.
[00:48:49] Speaker D: So anything that has someone who doesn't agree has been doing that forever.
[00:48:53] Speaker B: So this is the thing. This. And it's funny because even before we got to this point, I was driving the other night and I was thinking to myself, I was like, well, okay, what.
At what point do other people's opinions of you matter versus what you.
[00:49:10] Speaker A: Come on, Prince Rob. Come on, Prince Rogers Nelson. This ain't Purple Rain, my nigga. You're an artist for the people, not for yourself. Cut that bullshit out, man. Stop that.
[00:49:18] Speaker B: No, no, I'm not talking. I'm not even talking about being an artist. I'm just talking about your. Your.
[00:49:23] Speaker A: We're going to get away from the topic.
[00:49:24] Speaker B: No, no, but just the same thing, though, right? Like, people say, like, you think I'm a fucking good person, right? But then there's a large majority of people go, no, you're not that great of a person. But you go, I am a fucking. I feel like I'm a great person. Like, I know. At what point do you go, wait a minute, Maybe I'm not a good person and I need to believe or these people? Or do you go, no, I can't be fucking influenced or Changed by what they're telling me because they don't know I am a good person. Like what. At what point does that teeter totter have to go in. In what direction? What part do you stop relying upon your own and then rely on what other people are saying versus what you think you know? Unequivocally.
[00:50:05] Speaker C: I think in general, most individuals will. Will choose their own belief. Right. Because look at Penguin in his mind.
[00:50:13] Speaker D: Not true.
[00:50:14] Speaker C: Honestly, the show. The show.
[00:50:16] Speaker A: The show.
[00:50:16] Speaker C: Penguin in the show. Penguin in his mind. He thinks he's a good person. He thinks he.
[00:50:20] Speaker D: That he thinks he gives people jobs. He know he ain't.
[00:50:23] Speaker B: No.
[00:50:27] Speaker D: But what I'm saying.
[00:50:28] Speaker C: What I'm saying, what he tells himself. What he tells himself to. To keep going is like I. I help feed.
[00:50:35] Speaker D: That changed by the end, though. That changed by.
[00:50:38] Speaker C: But him keeping his mom still alive. Him.
[00:50:41] Speaker D: It wasn't about her and his love for her any. He was with her at that point.
[00:50:45] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:50:45] Speaker C: You think he was with.
[00:50:46] Speaker D: She turned on him.
[00:50:47] Speaker C: I understand.
[00:50:49] Speaker D: He kept her alive and kept her there.
[00:50:53] Speaker A: I don't have any idea where you.
[00:50:54] Speaker B: Are for that now.
[00:50:55] Speaker A: No way. Y'all for real listening to this. This is about Kend Lamar's album, cuz. I mean, y'all know where the.
[00:50:59] Speaker C: Read what you got.
[00:51:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:51:01] Speaker A: Kendrick Lamar.
[00:51:02] Speaker C: Who said this? What you're reading.
[00:51:03] Speaker A: Anyway, this is Z.
[00:51:05] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:51:06] Speaker A: So like sounds so gimmicky. His voice is annoying as lol 600 likes how the is.
[00:51:14] Speaker D: Wait, wait, wait. Who is this person?
[00:51:15] Speaker A: These are different people. This is a Twitter.
[00:51:16] Speaker C: This is people.
[00:51:17] Speaker A: Tell me this. There are several people.
[00:51:19] Speaker D: When he says what are we proving here? Because we're proving that you're. You're no one. There's no 100% of anything.
[00:51:25] Speaker A: No, listen to what I'm saying. The beginning of this conversation was the fact that people have gotten to a place now where everybody's in an echo chamber. Nobody really recognizes that there's a large group of people that don't agree. Agree with them. So like I heard on the. On the. On the. I'll tell you, I was listening to progressive radio a lot. Oh, wait a minute. I don't want to get. I don't get off topic. I was about to do it again.
This gets zero play outside of Cali.
[00:51:45] Speaker D: Just look, I know. Hell, people don't like the. I get it. Like, I had a meeting with a guy when I was working. Y'all keep that I was talking about. I. I just brought it up, like, just kind of nonchalantly because you Know, if you look at, like, the. I guess the popular vote, Kendrick Lamar won, right? I mean, if you got CNN talking about Kendrick Lamar, Juan. I mean, it seems like it's the popular vote. And so I just kind of talked about it. No, no, I'm just saying I was watching, like, the f. The top five things of the day, and she mentioned it. Yeah, but. But anyway, I brought it up.
[00:52:13] Speaker B: It did go mainstream.
[00:52:14] Speaker D: And like, literally, this dude and like, this is like, we're just talking at work type thing or whatever. And I just kind of. And like, this dude literally shut down, like, the rest of the meeting because, like, I offended him by talking, like, by saying Kendrick killed him with they're not like us. Like, I mean, this dude was such a Drake fan that, I mean, like, he didn't want to talk to me no more, type thing. Like, so I know that type of. And like I said. I don't know if I said it on the show or whatever, but anybody who's ever talked to me about it since it started, I said from jump. I'm 100% biased. There's no way you're like. Because I never liked Drake and I've always liked Kendrick, so I'm 100% biased in any of it.
To me, when the Kendrick album drops, like, like, that's what I'm doing for the day. Like, I don't drop many things for an album, but, like, as soon as my brother told me that was out, like, he tell you in the chat, I'm like, oh, this is what I'm doing today.
[00:53:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:53:03] Speaker D: And that's what I started doing. But the point is, is that there's always going to be people who do and people that don't. So I guess for me, for the record, I go for what I like. Just like the.
I can't think of the name of it right now, but the Steppers album or whatever, nobody likes that album.
[00:53:21] Speaker A: I haven't even heard it.
[00:53:21] Speaker D: Nobody likes that.
[00:53:22] Speaker A: I've heard two songs. I heard the one where he's nobody likes that. Arguing with the girl, which I thought was dope.
[00:53:27] Speaker D: Yeah, I love the shit out of that album because. Because the point of the album, which he started with the heart number five before the album came out, is talking about this black culture. We are so toxic. How we. How we. How our culture is. And we keep upholding this and acting like it's something precious.
[00:53:43] Speaker C: Whole theme even now.
[00:53:45] Speaker D: But every album of his is a different theme.
[00:53:48] Speaker A: Right.
[00:53:48] Speaker D: Just like this GSX is nothing on.
[00:53:50] Speaker C: That at all for The West Coast. He said, yo, this ain't even that album.
[00:53:55] Speaker B: That album was so.
[00:53:56] Speaker D: Because nobody does that type of, like, to that degree. Me, what type of criticize our culture put on blast. That just needs to be put on blast. Or just speak from the heart and don't just go with what the culture said. That's like, Cardi B, it came out and said that, like, the reason why she came out with W is because she tried to do, like, some. Some conscientious music and nobody liked it. So it. I'm talking about wet ass and.
[00:54:17] Speaker B: And I'm sell records.
[00:54:18] Speaker A: You know what I mean? Perspective on this. I was sent. I was still in the music industry, and I was sent a pre album for Bar. Cardi B was terrible, bro. And she was trying to rap. I probably still got it in an email somewhere. If I pull it up, I'm going to let y'all hear it. It was terrible. They were trying to get her name out. She was. She was nobody at this point, and.
[00:54:38] Speaker B: She was trying to be.
[00:54:39] Speaker A: They were sending all the DJ pools.
[00:54:41] Speaker D: She talked about it.
[00:54:42] Speaker A: They were sending all the record pools and stuff. So all the DJs had. Everybody heard this album, and it was like, yo, what is this? So nobody really believed she was about to pop, except for the people who, like, were part of it and saw it because they knew what they were about to do. It was terrible.
[00:54:54] Speaker B: It was the same reason why Rhapsody don't get no play. I mean. I mean, she's probably one of the dopest female rappers.
[00:54:59] Speaker D: She's my favorite female rapper right now.
[00:55:03] Speaker A: Right now, I'm. This is gonna be mainstream. Y'all not gonna like it, but DOI is killing do.
[00:55:07] Speaker C: She's killing it.
[00:55:07] Speaker A: Dochi is a monster.
[00:55:10] Speaker C: And she can sing.
[00:55:11] Speaker D: I have to hear something do.
[00:55:12] Speaker A: She is a monster.
[00:55:13] Speaker B: Is she out spinning? You know, she's with Kendrick's label. No, no, but I'm just saying. Is she outspending the stallion?
[00:55:20] Speaker C: No, I'm not talking about popping my pieces.
[00:55:23] Speaker A: She's rapping. She's rapping, bro.
[00:55:25] Speaker D: So I'm listening.
[00:55:26] Speaker C: But she can be marketable.
[00:55:27] Speaker D: Like, that's the.
[00:55:28] Speaker C: That's the one thing I give.
[00:55:29] Speaker D: I can' Like, I'm so. Like, that's so dime a dozen now. So, like, for. For a female to really get me to listen, she got to talk about something other than my ass is fast.
[00:55:37] Speaker A: I challenge you not to listen. I challenge you not to.
[00:55:40] Speaker D: I'm gonna listen to her. I'm gonna check it out.
[00:55:41] Speaker A: I challenge you not to Use start with the first, the new album. Because the new album is kind of a 90s theme and I don't want you to get caught in. That's who she is.
[00:55:49] Speaker D: Oh, I'm cool. I take direction. Tell me where to start.
[00:55:51] Speaker A: Go back. Go back earlier and listen to some of the earlier stuff and then.
Oh, man.
[00:55:56] Speaker D: Oh, yeah.
[00:55:58] Speaker A: Go back to some of the earlier stuff and then work your way back. I'll send you a couple of things. But she's dope, man. And Rhapsody is good, but to me, Dolce is. She's like, I don't know. I can't explain. You'll have to hear it. It's very dynamic.
[00:56:13] Speaker D: Well, hey, who's the first. Who's the first mainstream to fuck up Rhapsody?
[00:56:18] Speaker C: What do you mean?
[00:56:19] Speaker B: I'm not sure.
[00:56:20] Speaker D: I was just saying if anybody knew.
[00:56:21] Speaker A: Say it again. What's the question?
[00:56:22] Speaker D: Who's the first mainstream rapper to fuck with Cast or to fuck with Rhapsody?
[00:56:26] Speaker A: You're gonna say Kendrick.
[00:56:27] Speaker C: Was it.
[00:56:28] Speaker D: It was Kendrick.
[00:56:28] Speaker A: He g say Kendrick. He wanted.
[00:56:31] Speaker D: No, I didn't want it to be.
[00:56:32] Speaker B: It was so. He willed it so. So French. Reggie's not from Cali. And when I asked him, I was like, have you listened to the album? What you. What was your answer?
[00:56:43] Speaker D: Gnx?
[00:56:44] Speaker B: Yeah, he said several times. He's not. He's not a Cali. So again, that's some. The only that going to feel that are from Cali. That's. That's just. Again, your boy got Molly whopped. Were you probably feeling the guy who's Drake standing this like. And it. I understand Drake, but you know what's funny?
[00:57:06] Speaker A: I was trying to read off what other people thought and y'all shut me up so quick. I only got a three or four point. Y'all didn't even let me finish. Y'all. Y'all wouldn't even listen to it.
[00:57:14] Speaker C: You started talking on top of your example.
[00:57:17] Speaker D: The actual words they were saying didn't matter. Just people that don't like it. They think it's trash.
[00:57:20] Speaker A: But this is a long bro. I could go on for hours and we can read these comments. I know there's people and you say.
[00:57:26] Speaker D: Oh, but it's on both sides. Because you can say that for the other side.
[00:57:28] Speaker A: I didn't say there wasn't on the other side.
[00:57:30] Speaker D: But to me that's what makes it pointless is because you literally have it on both sides. That doesn't measure anything.
[00:57:35] Speaker B: No. So again.
[00:57:36] Speaker C: But his argument was like, when you hear an opposite take, people act like it's the end of the world.
[00:57:42] Speaker D: His argument is that, like, it's hands down. What do you mean? Like, he won hands down. Like, there's no competition, but, like, there's people that don't think that.
[00:57:50] Speaker A: Right.
[00:57:51] Speaker D: And I acknowledge that.
[00:57:51] Speaker A: And they're not. They really believe that.
[00:57:54] Speaker D: And I even gave examples of this. Like the guy that I was talking to at work that didn't want to talk to me no more.
[00:57:59] Speaker A: That's more what I was saying on the last episode. I don't know that I was embodying that opinion. I was just saying that there is an opinion that way. So Nathan Ice and other listeners who felt like I was caping for Drake. I promise you, I promise you, I didn't mean to.
[00:58:11] Speaker D: That was like MC Hammer versus Vanilla Ice. There was people on both sides that would burn it down to tell you why one side was better than the other. So, like, people had the opinions.
[00:58:20] Speaker B: Like, what. And what I said to you is like, so I'm supposed to read these or listening to these. These other people's opinions and not believe what I'm hearing? Like, again, so I'm not. I haven't been.
[00:58:32] Speaker A: You're supposed to question what you believe. Because there is not.
[00:58:35] Speaker B: About what I believe. It's what I listen to.
[00:58:39] Speaker A: No, it's. What do you know? You're about to say what I know.
[00:58:40] Speaker B: I was not gonna say what I know what I listen to.
[00:58:43] Speaker A: Yeah, that's not a real point.
[00:58:44] Speaker B: You said it is.
[00:58:46] Speaker A: Yeah, it's what I listened to. That wasn't a real point.
[00:58:48] Speaker C: I know what you're saying.
[00:58:49] Speaker B: It's not a. I don't know what you're saying.
[00:58:50] Speaker C: What you mean by enjoyed it when you enjoyed the.
[00:58:52] Speaker A: You're not just saying because you listen to it.
[00:58:54] Speaker B: It's because you enjoy it. What I hear. Yeah, I fucking. I like. Right. So I'm attracted to. I fucking think that it's good. And so someone telling me that ain't good is not going to change that for me.
[00:59:08] Speaker A: It shouldn't. But it should make you question if there are enough people who are saying it's not good. At least give it another go. Like, try to say, what is it about this album that would. If there were a reason that it would fool me, what would be the reason I got fooled. That's all I'm saying. I need you to do. That's it. You looked at me like there was obviously no reason for me to ever question myself on this one. Because it's obvious it's a win. It's a period at the end of the sentence. It's all these things. I'm like, well, damn, there are a lot of people who don't feel that way. So if I tell you that, does that give you any pause in your conviction? In your chest puffing? And you're like, nah.
[00:59:40] Speaker D: And that led to the next thing that I said too. Cause I was like.
Cause taking that into consideration, how do you consider what is good and what's bad?
[00:59:49] Speaker A: You don't.
[00:59:50] Speaker D: Who considers these things?
[00:59:51] Speaker A: You don't. All I'm asking is the double challenge. So you heard it the first time. You made your opinion, double yourself, double the challenge on yourself to make sure. Because sometimes you don't got it right, obviously. Because Mac feels right now that every person who said that stupid shit about Kendrick's album, them niggas don't got it right. So maybe they need to do the same thing too. But who's gonna ever take the. Take the. Swallow the pill to do that? Because if we're all just saying, nah, my opinion is right, theirs is wrong. And we always do that. Now they got us in our songs. They got us doing this over an album. Bro won't talk to you at work.
[01:00:22] Speaker B: So I know to stop talking to you.
[01:00:24] Speaker C: That's not supposed to happen because of an album, right?
[01:00:26] Speaker D: Well. Well, this was. This was during the middle.
[01:00:29] Speaker C: That is weird.
[01:00:30] Speaker A: You don't think there's something funky about all this energy that.
[01:00:32] Speaker D: Well, to me, it seemed petty, though.
[01:00:34] Speaker A: That's what I. But to you, you feel justified, cuz.
[01:00:37] Speaker D: No, no, no, no. To. To me, it seemed petty. To him, it seemed justified. Because that's what I meant.
[01:00:40] Speaker A: That's what I meant, cuz I was still willing.
[01:00:42] Speaker D: Okay, you like Drake. Like, okay, cool.
[01:00:43] Speaker A: Like, that's what I meant the other way around. Yeah, he feels justified in that. Convicted in what he's doing.
[01:00:48] Speaker D: And he feels. Felt like. Like there was no other Drake as there was no other good that could have came from me because I liked Kendrick better.
[01:00:55] Speaker B: So. So if we were to. So there's a bunch of albums that came out this weekend. Crazy. Like, it was like. It was like, well, can I get.
[01:01:03] Speaker A: Yalls opinion on the Kendrick album? Because we never even talk. I would like to know what y'all actually think about the album.
[01:01:07] Speaker C: I like the album.
[01:01:08] Speaker D: Look, I tell you, I think this will show you my opinion.
[01:01:11] Speaker C: I think this album was Kendrick's best replay value album. Because I feel like Kendrick, like, if you have to say something negative about his music, is like, yo, a lot of his albums or a lot of his songs don't have good replay value. But I think this album rep is probably the best replay value.
[01:01:29] Speaker A: It's funny because a lot of Drake people are saying that this album has no replay value. Go ahead.
[01:01:33] Speaker C: So like, that's the one with the replay value?
[01:01:36] Speaker D: Yes, the same.
[01:01:36] Speaker C: That's the one with them out of his catalog.
[01:01:39] Speaker A: No, that's the one with complaints is too West Coast. That's what I've read.
[01:01:43] Speaker C: Yeah, I heard that.
[01:01:44] Speaker D: But very west coast for me.
[01:01:46] Speaker B: For me didn't give a fuck about that when they were.
[01:01:50] Speaker C: But what I like, I like the fact that it's West Coast. Cause I've been asking for. I want to hear regional sounds again in hip hop. I'm pro that as a kid. That's from Haiti that moved to Boston. Like, I love the fact that was regional sounds in hip hop.
[01:02:02] Speaker A: Were you about to say Mac, sorry.
[01:02:04] Speaker C: We got into West Coast.
[01:02:05] Speaker B: Nobody gave a fuck about like Snoop when, you know, Snoop was West coast. Like, you know what I mean?
[01:02:09] Speaker A: Oh, man, you lost your thought. You had a better thought.
[01:02:11] Speaker B: No, I'm just saying you were about.
[01:02:12] Speaker A: To take something else. You changed to that. And I saw it was better too.
[01:02:15] Speaker C: The missionary was going to be fired.
[01:02:16] Speaker A: Do you remember what you were about to say before that?
[01:02:17] Speaker B: Come on, Mack.
[01:02:18] Speaker A: It was a good one. I can read it all over your face, bro. So tell me your opinion of the album. How about that?
[01:02:23] Speaker D: You knew that by the look of his face.
You didn't have the same conviction.
[01:02:29] Speaker B: I mean, I. So I'm a big fan of it for sure. Like, it's like the way it starts off. So a lot of the way he puts his. Whether, you know, he puts his song tracks together, it's just like it's an experience that's for. To me, it's like the Jimi Hendrix Experience, right? Like it's laid out as a certain way and when he started off. And I think that if you are someone who likes Drake, the fact that the fucking, you know, whacked out murals is about your boy. Like, he's. He's. He's talking.
[01:03:00] Speaker C: Is it really about Drake? It's really about niggas whacking out his murals.
[01:03:04] Speaker B: No, he's talking about everybody.
[01:03:06] Speaker D: I. Yeah, but it's not about.
[01:03:07] Speaker B: Right.
[01:03:08] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't think he cared about Jake.
[01:03:10] Speaker D: But the thing is, is that the line. A lot of. A lot of Kendrick's lines, they can be taken multiple ways.
[01:03:15] Speaker C: Of course.
[01:03:17] Speaker D: Exactly. A lot of his lines can be taken two different ways. And so some of them. You can look at it. He is saying it or. But he could be talking about something else, too.
[01:03:24] Speaker B: Well, it used to be talking about both.
Now it's all of y'all. Like, listen, like, I don't give a fuck about none of the. Like, the. The. I watched the party die. Like, the industry. I don't like this.
[01:03:35] Speaker C: And then the two things he left blank. One was Diddy this, and then the other.
[01:03:38] Speaker A: How do you know that?
[01:03:39] Speaker C: Come on. Like, he said something court and then went blank.
[01:03:43] Speaker B: Speaking of that, I saw a LeBron talking about ain't no party.
[01:03:46] Speaker D: But, like, are you talking about that line where he's.
[01:03:48] Speaker C: Well, yeah, it was a reference. Did he.
[01:03:50] Speaker A: What was the other LeBlanc at the.
[01:03:51] Speaker C: End all the time, though, be Drake? Because he was something about your boy. And then he went blank. And then.
[01:03:56] Speaker A: So you got something else other more opinion on. I want to ask too.
[01:03:59] Speaker B: No, so I. I think it's. You know, the Pac had a one song. Was it the Garden?
[01:04:04] Speaker C: Was it man at the Gardens?
[01:04:06] Speaker B: Fire? But again, but that's the. Like, he said it. We talked about. He's like, this song right here is the reason why people don't. With Drake. Like, because that's not a. Don't Kendrick. It's not a replay. Like, what French. To use French term, replayable. Like, it's not a.
[01:04:20] Speaker C: That's a good song.
[01:04:21] Speaker B: It's a great song.
[01:04:22] Speaker D: I feel like.
[01:04:23] Speaker C: I feel like that song got replay value because, like, if it talks about it, anybody can channel that.
[01:04:27] Speaker B: But it's not something you. You. You jam in your car, right? Like, the way that it's. It's more.
[01:04:32] Speaker C: It's not like TV off. It's not like TV off, bro.
[01:04:34] Speaker B: TV off.
[01:04:35] Speaker C: You know, Mustard, bro.
[01:04:37] Speaker B: I'm like, that.
[01:04:38] Speaker C: Reincarnated is the best song in there, though.
[01:04:40] Speaker B: Nah.
[01:04:41] Speaker C: For me.
[01:04:42] Speaker B: Heart six, to me, sentimental.
[01:04:45] Speaker C: It's very Gloria.
[01:04:46] Speaker D: Well, Heart six. He's telling a story. Yeah, he's telling a story in the heart.
[01:04:49] Speaker B: Gloria with the.
[01:04:50] Speaker C: Talking about his pen.
[01:04:51] Speaker D: Right?
[01:04:51] Speaker B: I mean, like, there's so many. Like, what are we talking about?
[01:04:54] Speaker C: Reincarnated. For me, I feel like he touched his artistry in that song.
[01:04:59] Speaker B: Well, you know, that's like troublesome 96 remade, right? Like, that's. That's. That's. That's Pac's flow.
[01:05:05] Speaker C: Everything.
[01:05:05] Speaker A: No, it's not.
[01:05:06] Speaker B: But it's.
[01:05:08] Speaker A: This don't got Pac is part of it. But this ain't got to do with Pac. Y'all all missed it. I'm hoping Pac before we encour. I'm talking about all of it.
[01:05:14] Speaker C: I hope Pac gets.
[01:05:15] Speaker A: Nobody said shit that made no difference yet.
I'm waiting.
[01:05:20] Speaker B: This nigga's crazy as hell.
[01:05:22] Speaker A: I'm waiting.
[01:05:23] Speaker C: He's the music guy.
[01:05:24] Speaker A: You listen to music like pedestrians. Go ahead, Pac. I got you, man.
[01:05:27] Speaker D: Yeah, like, that's a.
[01:05:30] Speaker B: You're right.
[01:05:31] Speaker D: You might say it now.
[01:05:32] Speaker B: You might want to take a shot first.
[01:05:34] Speaker D: I'll go back to what I said before. I'm 100% by this, yo, like, what I said when it came out, what I said I was doing, that's what I was doing. Like, literally, I dropped everything and I started listening. Listening to it. I love it. There's.
Luther is probably the one I listen to the least.
[01:05:51] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, because the girl song.
[01:05:53] Speaker D: Yeah, but there's. There's power behind it too. There's meaning behind it and whatnot. And the thing is, the same reason why I like the. The Big Steppers album where most people didn't like it is because it's an experience. And they're all different and they're all deep as. And this one is no different. It's on a different tip.
[01:06:11] Speaker B: Dodger Blue.
[01:06:11] Speaker D: But it's my.
At the same time, I haven't had that long to find tooth comb it yet. So my general take on it.
[01:06:21] Speaker A: We've all had the same time, right? We. We've all had the same amount of hours to have a take on it, though, right? Oh, yeah, okay.
[01:06:26] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, maybe.
[01:06:28] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:06:28] Speaker D: No, no. I mean, it's been out to and available to.
[01:06:31] Speaker B: That doesn't mean you have the same amount of time to access it.
[01:06:34] Speaker D: And that doesn't mean that everything he.
[01:06:36] Speaker B: Did, as soon as he got posted, he's like, no, he's like. He's like, this. This is. I can read the text it hooch.
[01:06:44] Speaker D: And he's like, for real. He's like, I was watching Yellowstone, I think when I. When I got the text, actually.
[01:06:48] Speaker B: He's like, well, I know what I'm doing for the rest of the day.
[01:06:50] Speaker A: Right.
[01:06:50] Speaker D: I turned the home pod on and right then from that point. Yeah, yeah, but.
But just because you may hear a song one time and I hear a song one time, you might get way more out of that song than I do. Yeah, I might have to hear that song 10 times to get out of it. What you get out of it?
[01:07:06] Speaker A: What are you. What are you thinking? I got out of it because he.
[01:07:08] Speaker B: Said, I don't know.
[01:07:09] Speaker D: But you said not. You be honest. Like, just mean somebody else but you. But you obviously just like, using Mac for an example. It happens all the time. Like, I might have heard a song four or five times. You'll hear it for the first time. You're like, oh, did you hear that? But, like, no, I didn't even hear that.
[01:07:21] Speaker B: Yeah, but you said something about what it's about. Like, what?
[01:07:24] Speaker A: I don't know. Because now y'all are making, like, a minute ago, y'all like this.
[01:07:28] Speaker D: I haven't even grasped the theme of this.
[01:07:29] Speaker A: This is a great album. This is the. The best album. And now y'all are giving me these kind of.
[01:07:33] Speaker D: Who said the best?
[01:07:34] Speaker A: Okay, I didn't.
[01:07:35] Speaker C: Somebody said that.
[01:07:36] Speaker A: I thought y'all were really in praise. And now when I ask you directly. Yeah, it's kind of good. It's.
[01:07:41] Speaker D: It's more. And I. And I peel more of those layers back. I'm gonna like it even more every.
[01:07:46] Speaker B: Song that I can like. Whether you start, like, whacked out, Mural, Squabble up, you know, you just keep going on, like. Like I said, Luther. Okay, but even all of the songs are. Are, to me, damn near classics to me. You know what I mean? See?
[01:08:04] Speaker A: But okay, so now you're going back.
[01:08:05] Speaker B: Yeah. No, no, definitely. No, seriously, Time pass.
[01:08:09] Speaker C: Before we say classic, I think I'm not saying you wrong. I just think we have to let time pass.
[01:08:13] Speaker B: To me, this is one of those.
[01:08:14] Speaker A: So out of ten, what do y'all.
[01:08:16] Speaker D: They move me. I put it that way.
[01:08:17] Speaker A: What are y'all giving out?
[01:08:17] Speaker C: 8 out of 10.
[01:08:18] Speaker A: 8 out of 10. What you got, Mac?
[01:08:19] Speaker B: I'm gonna give it at least a nine.
[01:08:21] Speaker A: What you got, Pac?
[01:08:22] Speaker D: 9.5.
[01:08:22] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:08:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:08:23] Speaker C: This is. Before you go, be honest. One thing I can say, because you was asking what. What do you think this album is about? I think he said it in the beginning, too. He said, like. I think he said in Squabble up, if I'm not mistaken, when he was like, this is what they want. I'm gonna give him what they want. I think he. This is the album he wants. Wanted to let.
[01:08:39] Speaker D: There's way more of those club bangers on this one.
[01:08:42] Speaker C: That's what I'm saying. But I think what he did with this album, he was like, okay, I just went on this beef. I probably got the most eyes on me. Let me broaden up my audience. Let me make an album that can resonate to this new.
[01:08:53] Speaker B: That can ride audience.
[01:08:55] Speaker D: This one did way better.
[01:08:57] Speaker C: But I still keep my roots of the west coast because. Because all the features are New west coast artists, too. You didn't get no. Legacy acts. You didn't get. No.
[01:09:05] Speaker A: They're not even great.
[01:09:06] Speaker D: They probably people that he bringing up.
[01:09:09] Speaker A: They're not even great. They're not even great.
[01:09:11] Speaker C: The. That was on Adam 22 podcast. They're just LA.
[01:09:14] Speaker A: They're not even great. In fact, some of their. Some of the songs that they're on when their parts are. I will skip it.
[01:09:18] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:09:19] Speaker A: But.
[01:09:19] Speaker C: So I think that was the. That was the. The. The. The motivation for the album that.
[01:09:24] Speaker D: I think a lot of that was more about the field, though. Like the. Like the. The gnx.
[01:09:28] Speaker B: But it's not enough.
[01:09:29] Speaker D: A lot of that is.
[01:09:30] Speaker A: And that.
[01:09:31] Speaker D: And that's. And. And that's why I agree when you said this one's a lot more west coast, because I think maybe it started with even.
Because a lot of. Like, there's a lot of that theme in this one so far. Yeah.
[01:09:44] Speaker C: Even bringing the. The. The. The. The Mexican sound like that's. That's representing his roots where he's from. So. But I think he did it to. The theme of that album was, yo, I got a new audience, new ears, new people are looking into my music. Let me. Let me just. Let me just give them something that they can just vibe to. That's why, like, I don't think old Kendrick will ever make squabble up if it wasn't.
[01:10:08] Speaker D: Nah.
[01:10:09] Speaker C: You know, because that's a plain song, but, you know, you can vibe to it.
[01:10:13] Speaker D: Well, I don't.
Yeah. Because even Good Kid Matt City never didn't have anything really like Good Kid.
[01:10:20] Speaker C: Mad City was a story right from beginning to end.
[01:10:23] Speaker D: Well, I mean, a lot of them are. Yeah, Good Cat Mat City flowed like a movie.
[01:10:29] Speaker C: That's what I'm saying. It was legit. You could make a movie out of that.
[01:10:31] Speaker D: It flowed like. It kind of like Sticky Fingers first album. It actually had the universal play at the beginning type thing.
[01:10:36] Speaker A: This did too.
[01:10:38] Speaker C: This did too. Go ahead.
[01:10:39] Speaker A: So the. The overarching theme. I haven't heard anybody saying this, bro, and I can't believe it. Even Joe Bud wasn't saying it. I don't believe it. This. This album, the theme is God, Jesus, the devil, and Kendrick. The whole album is a religious album, every single part of it. But the up part. First of all, I want to say this. I want to give a sh. To my son Cam, because he was the first one I know of who had an album named after a car. And the theme of it was about that car. He. It's a different car, of course. But I do see that cam. So I saw it. That's dope.
[01:11:11] Speaker C: However, Kendrick stole your cam.
[01:11:13] Speaker A: What's. What people are not seeing about this album is that it's about God, Jesus, the devil, and Kendrick. But what Kendrick is saying in that third verse of Reincarnated is the only thing that you need to listen to to listen to the Al album again the other way. So I'm challenging you. Don't listen to any of the album. Don't listen to the album again. Yet. What Joe Budden did call out was that Reincarnated is track six right dead center in the middle of the album. So think about it this way. Listen to verse three of Reincarnated Again and then start the album over. I will tell you guys that yesterday Kit and I took a lot of edibles and sat down and put the album up on Apple Music with the lyrics playing. But say we listen to the whole album with the lyrics playing, and I will tell you before we can get started, Kendrick Lamar is my favorite artist now.
[01:12:01] Speaker D: Wait, what?
[01:12:01] Speaker A: No, no, no.
[01:12:02] Speaker C: Hold on, hold on.
[01:12:02] Speaker A: I know you got. You got to say this, nigga. No, no, no, no.
[01:12:04] Speaker D: I'm just blown the away. I'm sorry.
[01:12:07] Speaker A: I'm about to back this up. Like, literally.
[01:12:09] Speaker D: I just heard the other. The end of the podcast today, so.
[01:12:12] Speaker A: I was just like, I'm about to back this up.
[01:12:15] Speaker D: Let's go.
[01:12:16] Speaker A: Kendrick Lamar has now become in my top five, and this album is probably Kendrick's best album to me.
[01:12:22] Speaker D: Okay, you knew you were gonna say this, like, before I set you up.
[01:12:25] Speaker A: If I say he was baiting this, I did. I said, keep talking.
[01:12:30] Speaker B: He likes to walk.
[01:12:32] Speaker A: Prior to the show, listeners. I set Mac up. I put him in a heat. He was. His pussy was burning. That was. He was angry at me. This is a phenomenal work of art. And if I ever challenge his Pulitzer, I would give it to him now just based off of how he changed my mind on this record. So the thing is, is what you don't realize.
[01:12:52] Speaker B: Don't look at me like that.
[01:12:54] Speaker A: What you don't realize about the third verse of Reincarnated, Kendrick is saying, I am the devil reincarnated. I'm the devil. But guess what? I get it now. And I want to change. Right, nigga? What?
Yeah, yeah. Hold on. Be quiet for a second. Think about what I just said. He is saying, kendrick, I'm the devil reincarnated. I've been selling poison to everybody.
[01:13:16] Speaker B: Like you said, if you ain't got no forgiveness.
[01:13:27] Speaker A: Look at the last line.
[01:13:28] Speaker D: That's right.
[01:13:29] Speaker A: Look at the very last line. What? That he says? Not the. In the. In the.
[01:13:32] Speaker D: And I knew that he was doing God's voice, talking to him.
[01:13:34] Speaker C: I rewrote the devil's story just to take our power back.
[01:13:36] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:13:38] Speaker A: This is a genius writer. I don't know what y'all. I don't know what made y'all feel like it was a maybe, a kind.
[01:13:45] Speaker D: But this is why you said what you said, why you thought I was talking about you. When I say you might hear a song one time and get something out of it, I might have to hear it 10 times to get it out of it. That's why you thought I was talking about you, because you already.
[01:13:56] Speaker B: But nobody thought it was a maybe.
[01:13:58] Speaker D: But see, that's why I said what I said, though, because, see, this is all the stuff you get out of his albums after you, like, really break them down, though.
[01:14:05] Speaker A: I haven't translated to Spanish. This ain't the first time I translated to Spanish yet. So the Spanish probably has a real big, big character in this. In the beginning, because it happens more than once in the guitar, right? But the first few words. He says the word God in the first few words. He's talking to God in the first few words, or he's talking from the voice of God in the first few words. The entire album from beginning to end is about his duality with good, evil, and the juxtaposition of being a person who has all these talents and is trying to share them with the world, but one day recognizes that just like Satan got cast down for being too egomanial, doing too much of an egomaniac, and having too much prayer, Kendrick now recognizes that in him and is like, yo, even though I think I've been doing good all this time, I've been doing. So tell me what you did. I put 100 hoods on stage.
[01:14:56] Speaker B: Right.
[01:14:56] Speaker A: What else you do? I did this. I put something in the forgiveness. But you love War.
[01:15:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:15:01] Speaker A: He's like, I brought everybody together. Like, nah, but you love War.
[01:15:03] Speaker D: Did you ever hear his album, the unreleased, unmastered.
[01:15:06] Speaker A: I did, but I didn't like it.
[01:15:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:15:07] Speaker D: Did you hear the first track?
[01:15:08] Speaker A: I didn't dig in. I didn't like it.
[01:15:09] Speaker D: Did you hear the first?
[01:15:10] Speaker A: I didn't, because I didn't like it. I didn't hear it the way I needed to hear it.
[01:15:14] Speaker D: Okay, well, listen to the first track of that album again.
[01:15:15] Speaker A: I plan on going back and listen to everything again.
[01:15:17] Speaker D: I don't care if you do just that track. Because what you're talking about, he talked about in that song you talking about. He literally talks about a dream he had where he talked to God.
[01:15:24] Speaker B: This was the conversation.
[01:15:25] Speaker C: Just because the songs don't got title, it's just the dates.
[01:15:28] Speaker D: But it's track number one. He's got.
[01:15:30] Speaker C: What's the song?
[01:15:31] Speaker D: Track number one is called Untracked.
[01:15:33] Speaker B: I don't know what you want to.
[01:15:34] Speaker D: It's just track one.
[01:15:35] Speaker A: It's called.
[01:15:35] Speaker C: I'm just trying to say what.
[01:15:36] Speaker A: What.
[01:15:36] Speaker D: The name of the album's called Untitled UN. So it's Untitled Unmastered 1.
[01:15:41] Speaker C: Okay, I got you.
[01:15:42] Speaker A: So basically, even when you. From the very beginning, the very be, the first half of the album is him talking about the things that he's been part of and made good or whatever he thought was the second half of the album, he told you in one of the songs that he's planning on making this transition. Did you guys not notice his.
What's wrong? What's that?
[01:16:02] Speaker D: That was a show.
[01:16:03] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:16:03] Speaker C: Yeah, I just need to hear that.
[01:16:04] Speaker A: Did you guys not know? Look, now that you're gonna go back now listen, I want to go to third verse reincarnated first. You have to listen that first. You heard that first. Listen to it, though. Don't just read it. Listen to it first and then listen to the whole album again. Did you never make the. The connection that the one. The one Mike Nas record that he redid, that man at the Garden. That's. That's one mic and he killed it. There's only two that can do that song. Nas and Kendrick Lamar. And he killed it. That's one mic.
[01:16:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:16:31] Speaker A: How great was one mic when you heard it? Phenomenal, it was. You had never heard a record like it before. And you could. Nobody could ever copy it. Kendrick did and Kendrick made it as good or better. Now here's the thing. Did nobody think about what the Garden we're talking about and what man, Eve Garden. Who are we talking about? This whole album is good and bad, evil and positive or evil and good. God and Jesus and the devil. Here's the other crazy part, right? And this is my own. This is my own hot take. Everybody's always so quick to punish the devil and hate the devil, but we love Jesus. Do you realize that is same God didn't give either one of them a choice, right? Satan is as much a sacrifice for us as Jesus is because he is the one that has to tempt us so that we can do wrong. To not get the grace, right? So his role is already put set in stone. He can't change that. The crazy part about this is Kendrick is saying, nah, I am the devil reincarnated, yet I'm still going to change it in spite of it, because it's what's right. It's what's love. It's what's good.
[01:17:28] Speaker B: Right?
[01:17:29] Speaker A: And now I don't have to believe in the God that you believe in, the same way that you believe in it to understand what's at play here.
[01:17:35] Speaker B: Right?
[01:17:35] Speaker A: And that's why this album is phenomenal. I don't know what these niggas talking about mid. I don't know what these niggas talking about. They don't understand how it's the top album of the month of the. Of the.
[01:17:43] Speaker D: But what you just described most of the people you read in the comments, and ain't none of them gonna ever get.
[01:17:50] Speaker A: And I'm not done, bro. I don't even know how much I didn't catch.
[01:17:53] Speaker D: That's what I'm saying. Like, that's exactly what I'm saying. This is why Kendrick is not why.
[01:17:57] Speaker B: You satisfied the whole day.
[01:17:59] Speaker A: Why as you should have. I've listened album like five times.
[01:18:04] Speaker D: I'm just saying this is why Common.
[01:18:07] Speaker A: Had that song I used to love her.
[01:18:09] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[01:18:09] Speaker A: There's so many songs that are about, like, the love of hip hop, and they're saying it's like, as a girl, but at the end, you realize it's hip hop. There's never been one. Like, Gloria, Gloria. Because here's the thing, right? Let me tell you, how much of an ego does a nigga don't have in his writing? He's even saying that she's half of his success. His pen is the reason she pushed him when he wouldn't want to do it. She cut that off when he started rapping about the dumb.
[01:18:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:18:31] Speaker A: This nigga is saying, yo, my pen is my other half. Without her, there is no me.
[01:18:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:18:36] Speaker A: And that is. This is the. This is the letting go of the ego that ends the album with that and then the album. I don't know if y'all listen to the album all the way through till it stops playing. Yeah, nigga, you are so in peace when that guitar starts playing at the end and the shit is over with that SZA shit. Nigga, SZA is a. Is a feature on this album.
[01:18:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:18:53] Speaker A: Without sza, this album isn't that album either. That's what's so great about it, is he gave up SZA's parts. She's got her parts there. She's a feature. The Spanish lady who I heard was just performing in a Dodgers club. Oh, a Dodgers game. Right.
[01:19:05] Speaker C: She opened up the Dodgers game.
[01:19:06] Speaker A: They walked up to her like, yo, we want you. Two days later, she recorded her parts. So, like, this all came together because of the combination of all these things. These Up Doty and Lefty Gunpl. These niggas don't matter as far as how good they are.
[01:19:19] Speaker D: Exactly. They matter because it's just part of.
[01:19:21] Speaker A: He's saying, this ain't me. This ain't me, bro. I'm just a vessel. And here's your chance. You guys kill it. And whether or not you like their songs or not, that fucking GNX song, they're riding a beat I don't even understand, but they're riding it. But then to end that shit with glory and have the guitar play off to the end to where you feel completely at peace when the album is over, you like, should I listen to it again?
[01:19:41] Speaker B: No, but that's like. That's like hard Part six, right? Like, I mean, crazy sample, right?
[01:19:45] Speaker A: That sample and the rap connection to that.
[01:19:47] Speaker C: Sweet, right?
[01:19:48] Speaker A: It is sfp.
[01:19:49] Speaker B: And he's like, let me. Let me be. Let me be the example for y'all niggas. Like, don't let these socials get you hyped. Like, listen. Talk to a. Like, get to a. Like a handshake.
[01:19:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:19:57] Speaker B: Is. Is. Is what it's about when you can have a heart to heart.
[01:20:00] Speaker A: Wait till you read the lyrics now that you heard about.
[01:20:03] Speaker B: I got time, bruh.
[01:20:04] Speaker D: I feel like I just been to church. Y'all preaching up in here.
[01:20:07] Speaker A: Gospel album, bro. This is. This is gospel rap.
[01:20:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:20:10] Speaker A: This is by no means secular rap. This is gospel.
[01:20:12] Speaker D: I'm just saying this is gospel rap.
[01:20:14] Speaker A: And it's to the point where you didn't even know it was gospel.
[01:20:16] Speaker B: Well, again, so what was it? The Kill the party. What was it?
[01:20:20] Speaker C: Watch the party.
[01:20:21] Speaker D: Watch the party.
[01:20:21] Speaker B: Watch the party die. But then the. The gospel came out with.
[01:20:25] Speaker D: With his version of it.
[01:20:27] Speaker B: And. And you could already tell, though, like, he. Because he already said, what would Lecrae do? And Lecrae, yeah, he had a. Had a, you know, a different outlet.
[01:20:34] Speaker D: But it was response to it, but.
[01:20:36] Speaker B: It was still similar, right? But he's saying, listen, like, as a. But Lecrae's a gospel rapper, A Grammy.
[01:20:41] Speaker A: Award winning gospel, right?
[01:20:42] Speaker B: And he's like. He's like, listen, this. I. I used to be a part of that world you know? I mean, but you can see where Kendricks are already melding.
[01:20:50] Speaker A: And if you didn't see it, listen to third verse of reincarnated, because you'll get it. Then it's telling you, well, he ends.
[01:20:56] Speaker B: It like, so again, it's not. The. The last thing is not reincarnated.
[01:21:00] Speaker C: It's carnated.
[01:21:01] Speaker B: It's carnated.
That's how he ends that. It's not. It's not reincarnated. It's carnated.
[01:21:07] Speaker A: He tricked everybody. He tricked everybody by giving you those boom, boom, boom, boom beats. And you're thinking, oh, this is just some club. Nah, look at the lyrics in those club shits that Kendrick says. Not the others. Not the others that he's putting on. But listen to his lyrics, bro. And then when you get to the fucking sleeper, my sleeper is Dodger Blue, bro.
[01:21:25] Speaker B: Bro, I already said that. Like, Dodger Blue, like, is. Is.
[01:21:29] Speaker A: I wasn't expecting that from Kendrick. Yeah, I wasn't expecting that.
[01:21:32] Speaker B: Dodger Blue.
[01:21:33] Speaker C: Why you think it's a sleeper, though? Is it because of the.
[01:21:35] Speaker A: Because people aren't saying it. People aren't saying the name. I've heard people say the reason why.
[01:21:38] Speaker D: It'S not one of them banger beats.
[01:21:40] Speaker A: Like, I totally disagree with Pac when he said that this is more mainstream and, like, those I can't listen to. I think that he opened it up. You were saying that, like, Luther, you don't like it because it's kind of soft and it's like.
[01:21:52] Speaker B: No, no, no.
[01:21:52] Speaker D: I said Luther is the one I listen to the least, is what I said.
[01:21:55] Speaker A: But Luther is actually what made me listen to it the most. Those melodies are. That is a love song, bro. They even got Kendrick sounding like he can sing in that shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, they've done their thing. This is an expensive ass album. This wasn't cheap. It's well produced. It's well produced. It's well recorded, it's well mixed, it's well mastered. But the concept kills all of that. And I can now confess that I am a Kendrick fan. I will give it to you. I'll give it to you.
[01:22:20] Speaker B: Hey, what is it? I mean, it's like 15 years later, nigga. Like, I remember I'm a hard sale. I mean, I remember when I first sent you that Kendrick.
[01:22:27] Speaker D: I just want to talk to him. After you go back and listen to some of the other stuff.
[01:22:30] Speaker B: Like when I remember when I first sent him, I said, he's like, what y'all listening out there? I sent him some YG and some Kendrick. And he's like, I don't know if I can fuck with yg. Like, listen, that crazy world yg. No, it was way before that.
[01:22:41] Speaker A: I already heard Kendrick because I heard Section 80, right? Because hold up was my shit way back in the day. So I had already heard Kendrick, but I wasn't on him.
[01:22:48] Speaker B: Right?
[01:22:49] Speaker A: But. And I.
[01:22:50] Speaker B: And the voice threw me off Good Kid Matt City. To me, that was one of those ones too. Like, you know, once you listen to it, I'll never forget. I had headphones on mowing the grass. And I listened to it from beginning to end and it was like, yo, that's different with the, with the headphones on. I get the whole experience when I was done.
[01:23:07] Speaker C: Kid Man City life too, bro.
[01:23:09] Speaker D: Like, I remember Good Kid Man City after my brother died. That made me cry every time I listened to.
[01:23:14] Speaker C: But people gave him Flag for Two Pepper Butterfly. But I love that album.
[01:23:18] Speaker D: They didn't like it because he. Because you go from Good Kid Man City. That sound like some. But do we remember la, right? Like some LA hood.
But do you remember the time to.
[01:23:28] Speaker C: Pimp a Butterfly came? That was like the. We needed to hear at that time.
[01:23:31] Speaker D: I, I. I'm right there with you. I'm trying to tell you is whether the masses be. Because the Pimpa Butterfly had a very jazzy sound to it. It was different. And people wasn't with the sound. It wasn't listening to what he was saying.
But that's what happened with the Big Stepper album too.
[01:23:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:23:52] Speaker D: Is that it's not the most catchy beats and like that. But what he's saying is he's talking about monumental.
[01:23:59] Speaker B: Every song that he's talking about is like a. Is like a.
[01:24:01] Speaker D: Every song is something wrong with the culture.
[01:24:03] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:24:04] Speaker D: Every song represents something wrong with the culture.
[01:24:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:24:06] Speaker D: Damn was like. Damn was the intro to that. Because Damn broke it down as far as the sins.
[01:24:12] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:24:13] Speaker D: The pride, the, the, you know, all that stuff. Like, like the lust. Like he broke that down in that one. Like even that one where he was talking. What's the one I can't think of the name of the Duckworth. No, the one where he was in, in the song in the beginning. He's. He's basically talking like the, the black mom that all the. That they would say like, I'll beat your ass. All that. Oh, fear.
[01:24:32] Speaker B: Fear. Yeah.
[01:24:33] Speaker D: Like that was that song Go Hard. Ridiculous.
[01:24:35] Speaker A: But look though twice. Emotional stability of a sound body and tranquility. I deserve it all like mine Less enemies, stock investments, more entities. I deserve it all that's the garden BBS is white diamonds DNX with the seat back reclining, bitch, I deserve it Put my homes on the beach front flying private what you eat for lunch? I deserve it all the respect and the accolades Glamping on the island watching Castaway I deserve it all for every good nigga that passed away sent 2.5 million on an average day I deserve it all Keep my name by the world leaders Keep my crowds loud inside Ibiza I deserve it More money, more power, more freedom Everything heaven allowed us, bitch, I deserve it all that's the first verse. What is he doing right now? He's showing his ego. He's sticking his chest out. He's like, nigga, look at all the shit that I did. I deserve it all right? And this album is him showing you that he's not responsible. He's a vessel, right? And I respect the shit out of that.
[01:25:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:25:29] Speaker A: I mean, he says. Cause my intentions was pure Even when you wasn't sure Even with every allure how much temptation you endured? You probably looked for every cure I said I deserve it all I'm waking up at 6am 6 miles miles a day conditioning my wind I said I deserve it all I'm showing up as your friend Telling truths better than your next kin I deserve it all I think this is another character, right? This is somebody else that's talking in this.
[01:25:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:25:49] Speaker D: He has characters telling truth better than.
[01:25:51] Speaker A: Your next kin I said I deserve it all I never asked for too much credit Seeking validation just for the aesthetic. Bitch, I deserve it all I see you as human first. Human first. What are we talking about? We talking about humans, right? You see what I'm saying? Like, there's a lot of codes in this shit, man. Even when you didn't understand your worth, right? I deserve it all it's innate to mind my business, writing words, trying to elevate these children. What children? That's why I deserve it all. The children of God, right? Are we talking about the kids? Because those are two different children. But they're the same children. There's not. That's a double entrant. But it's not even different because the kids are also the children, bro.
[01:26:28] Speaker D: Look, all I can say is, welcome to the dark side, bro.
[01:26:30] Speaker B: That's my. It's not the dark side.
[01:26:32] Speaker D: I'm just saying welcome, bro.
[01:26:33] Speaker A: No, but it's. No, no, no, no. But you're missing it is the dark side. He's Satan, right? That's why the album has that ominous, dark tone to it. All the beats are dark. Yeah, all the. The starts with, like, an operatic Spanish. It's all dark. The whole point is, he wants you.
[01:26:48] Speaker D: To understand it's not the same. It's different in Reincarnated, though, because they're similar. The intros are similar.
[01:26:53] Speaker A: I'm talking about the. The beats, the choice of beats, all the keys.
[01:26:55] Speaker D: I'm talking about that. That operatic thing you're talking about, that have that.
[01:27:00] Speaker A: That have that intro with her. Yeah. Gloria. Does it reincarnate? Does it. It's 1, 6 and 12, bro. I'm telling you, it's all right there. But this is why you gotta take time to unpack.
[01:27:13] Speaker D: This is why people don't.
[01:27:14] Speaker A: With 12 disciples of Christ. 12 song, bro.
[01:27:16] Speaker D: I'm telling you I'm telling you it all means something hold on it's innate.
[01:27:20] Speaker A: To my mind to mind my business Writing words Trying to elevate these children that's why I deserve it all Pray for those who prayed against me Every reason why my ancestors sent me Bitch, I deserve it all that's the second verse, nigga. And here's the third verse where it gets crazy when he elevates his voice. But listen to these words. Put a smile on my mama Good health and good karma yes, she deserves it all this is when he starts trying to open up and saying, it's.
[01:27:41] Speaker B: Not just me, right?
[01:27:42] Speaker A: But this isn't the Same song, bro.
100 murals out in Compton Remember me? I kept my promise yeah, we deserve it all It's Compton now, right? A better life for my daughter Made my son take it further than his father yeah, he deserves it all A close relationship with God whispered to me Every time I close my eyes he said, you deserve it all Keep these bitch niggas Keep all my blessings faithfully Keep my essence contagious that's okay with me I burned this bitch down don't you play with me or stay with me I'm crashing out right now no one's safe with me I did it with integrity and niggas still try to hate on me Just wait and see More blood be spilling it's just paint.
[01:28:15] Speaker D: To me, nigga Come on, just drop.
[01:28:17] Speaker A: The mic that's the devil, nigga that is the devil. He is painting with blood, bro.
[01:28:21] Speaker B: That nigga said it's just paint to.
[01:28:23] Speaker A: Me, bro like he is spitting blood. Cause I mean, he's spitting bars because he's talking about spilling blood. And that's nothing. But he's just Painting the world, right? So hold on I'm not done Dangerously nothing changed with me still got pain in me Even still I'm still painful I have pain. Flip a coin Want the shameless me or the famous me? What? That's Cassidy. There's a lot of Cassidy on this album, too. He's channeling a lot of Cassidy. But to me, he's also equal. Andre 3000 now by. There's no shadow of a doubt. Him and Andre are up there together, right? Everybody who thinks Andre is weird are the same type of that. Think.
What? They're not together.
[01:28:59] Speaker D: Nah, fuck that. Andre 3000 is not weird. That nigga is like that.
[01:29:03] Speaker A: They're.
[01:29:03] Speaker B: He's a genius.
[01:29:04] Speaker A: This is. This is. This is why I said I got proof of why I'm willing to make this flip flop I'm now saying that they're kindred spirits, right? Dangerously nothing changes Spirits, Kindred spirits Dangerously nothing changed with me still got pain in me Flip a coin Want the shameless me or the famous me?
[01:29:19] Speaker D: Yes.
[01:29:19] Speaker A: How annoying does it angers me to know the lames can speak on the origins of the game I breathe you niggas rapping. Y'all don't rap. The fuck y'all talking about? I'm the only one on. Oh, my God. It's important. I deserve it all because it's mine. Tell me why you think you deserve the greatest of all time?
[01:29:36] Speaker B: Right?
Yeah.
[01:29:38] Speaker D: Yes.
[01:29:39] Speaker A: He's still conflicted. That's. Now that song is prior to reincarnation, so he's still conflicted. That's why there's two different sides.
[01:29:45] Speaker B: What was the one where the said, how you forget now? Because I had a couple shots. But he was like, how you. How you gonna be gangster?
[01:29:55] Speaker A: Like, oh, yes, that's a. That's in a hood splits on, right? That's another. That's one of the. The club boppers, right?
[01:30:00] Speaker B: He's like, how you gonna be gangster again? And how you gonna be this when you federal.
Come on. Like, let's be. How you ain't rapping? I mean, how you doing this? And you ain't.
[01:30:09] Speaker A: That's squabble up, ain't it?
[01:30:11] Speaker B: It might be.
[01:30:11] Speaker A: I think that's.
[01:30:12] Speaker B: And he's like, you ain't got. You're not even writing your own. Like, what are we doing here? Like, how is this possible, right? You know, I mean, like, you guys are talking this, and you're not even authentic in about it.
[01:30:21] Speaker A: Exactly.
[01:30:22] Speaker B: So. Yeah.
[01:30:23] Speaker A: Yeah, bruh, they not like us, bro. And he's not talking About. He's talking spirituality.
[01:30:28] Speaker B: Yeah, listen, listen.
[01:30:30] Speaker A: And they saying this ain't even the album, nigga. They saying this is the mixtape he put out. That's what their camp. His camp is saying, this is just a teaser.
[01:30:37] Speaker C: What, you got more to say?
[01:30:39] Speaker A: I will say this.
[01:30:40] Speaker D: He didn't.
[01:30:41] Speaker A: He didn't use the. He didn't use the munchkin voice in this album at all. I listened and he didn't. I'm so glad because he let me in because he wasn't gonna let me in.
[01:30:48] Speaker D: Just FYI. That's a character too. Just.
[01:30:49] Speaker B: He used that one voice where he got.
[01:30:51] Speaker A: You know, I'm good with that. The little country. I'm good with that too. As long as it's not the munchkin voice. He let me have a chance to embrace it, and I do. And like I said, he's up there with 102,000 now. And I look at Andre as a different kind of rapper. Like, he's on my top five also. But he's the best at that. There is no better than him. I don't give a fuck who you talk about. What? Old school, n. Whatever. Like, none of that Kendrick now is up there. I know he says he's the best ever. No, Hands down, whatever. I get it, and I appreciate that. You're supposed to do that in rap, but to me, he and 103,000 are in that other place.
[01:31:21] Speaker B: So, like, just like on that killer Mike song. What was it?
Was it. I forget with Andre, he let it off and he's like, beyond neon. You know that the whole. I forget what the name of the song is, but it's Kendrick. No, it's Andre.
[01:31:39] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:31:40] Speaker B: And Andre's verse, like, again, it's.
You have to listen. Listened to it multiple times.
[01:31:47] Speaker D: Like, most of them. I mean, Andre verse, he don't kill that.
[01:31:50] Speaker B: Where you're like, what the.
[01:31:52] Speaker C: Did he.
[01:31:53] Speaker B: What did he just say? And then he just. When you hear it again, you're like, bro, that is.
[01:31:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:31:58] Speaker B: Why'd he. Why'd he only make flute song? Like, again? Like, I get that. I get that you said that. You don't have. But you got it, bro. Like, you.
[01:32:05] Speaker A: But what if. What if Kendrick inspired him on this, bro?
[01:32:08] Speaker B: If he.
[01:32:08] Speaker A: Listen, bro, I'm inspired.
[01:32:10] Speaker D: That's another notch of I'm inspired, bro.
[01:32:12] Speaker A: I'm inspired.
[01:32:13] Speaker D: Look, you speaking my language over there, bro.
[01:32:15] Speaker A: Yeah, like, I'm inspired, bro.
[01:32:16] Speaker D: You speaking my language.
[01:32:17] Speaker A: Listen to this again tonight. I'm. I'm inspired because so, like, cuz.
[01:32:20] Speaker D: Andre is up there with me too.
[01:32:22] Speaker B: Like, and I. I was gonna bring up some other albums that came out this weekend. I don't feel like I even want to do it.
[01:32:27] Speaker A: I don't. I'm sorry. Ice Cube. I'm sorry.
[01:32:29] Speaker B: Hold on. What.
[01:32:29] Speaker D: What did I tell. What did I say to you?
[01:32:31] Speaker C: Yeah, he stepped on Ice Cube.
[01:32:32] Speaker A: Cube, I'm sorry, bro.
[01:32:33] Speaker D: Like, what did I say to you?
[01:32:34] Speaker B: I said.
[01:32:34] Speaker D: I said I feel bad. All these people dropped his album.
[01:32:38] Speaker B: He dropped.
[01:32:39] Speaker A: Kill him. I'm sorry.
[01:32:40] Speaker D: And even Cube, like, Cube slaps.
[01:32:43] Speaker A: I don't care though. Slaps. Honestly.
[01:32:45] Speaker D: That's it.
[01:32:46] Speaker B: That's it.
[01:32:46] Speaker A: I'll get to it.
[01:32:47] Speaker D: Nobody cares right now.
[01:32:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't care.
[01:32:48] Speaker D: But. But you get to.
[01:32:50] Speaker B: This is why.
[01:32:50] Speaker A: This is the album. This is the album of a generation. This is it. And I know people are calling it mid. And they're like, this isn't a real album. This is the album of a generation. Just don't. They're not reading through the next may.
[01:33:00] Speaker C: Not just mean the car.
[01:33:01] Speaker A: It might not. And I don't know.
[01:33:03] Speaker D: That's exactly it though.
[01:33:04] Speaker A: It definitely does.
[01:33:05] Speaker D: That's exactly it. It's not just the car.
[01:33:06] Speaker A: I mean, but you know what a Grand national is though, right?
[01:33:08] Speaker D: Well, it's. It's not even just the Grand. The Grand National X. Yeah.
[01:33:12] Speaker C: They only made like 500 of them.
[01:33:14] Speaker A: But the Grand National X less.
[01:33:15] Speaker D: Yes. Cuz you know what the X stands for?
[01:33:17] Speaker A: No.
[01:33:18] Speaker C: And that car is faster than.
[01:33:19] Speaker A: Oh, wow.
[01:33:20] Speaker C: It's faster than.
[01:33:21] Speaker A: See, that's another layer. But I. I don't think people even understand the grand national cuz you don't see them, you don't know them. This is the car of cars for car enthusiasts. Like if you're a muscle car guy, grand national is that car.
[01:33:31] Speaker D: And if you're from la.
[01:33:33] Speaker A: Not just la.
[01:33:35] Speaker D: Not just la, like the, The. It's like the staple car.
[01:33:38] Speaker A: I'm letting y'all know that's not just west coast, that car.
[01:33:40] Speaker D: I know. I'm just saying, like, that's like an icon in West Coast.
[01:33:43] Speaker A: I hope inspires Andre and they. We don't get that flute thing anymore because I. I couldn't really.
[01:33:47] Speaker C: Andre said he's gonna drop around thing too, though.
[01:33:50] Speaker D: To be honest.
[01:33:50] Speaker C: Andre said he's gonna.
[01:33:51] Speaker B: It was okay.
[01:33:52] Speaker D: I mean, that was actually really good.
[01:33:54] Speaker B: No, if you listen for. If you're.
[01:33:56] Speaker D: If you listen to that type of music, if you're ready.
[01:33:58] Speaker B: If you ready to listen to flute music. Right? Like if you listen to instrumental or like some mood music or something like that? Yeah, soundscapes. That. That's. That's. I mean, yeah, he killed that.
[01:34:07] Speaker C: No, but I. I, like, didn't he.
[01:34:09] Speaker D: Win something for that, too?
[01:34:10] Speaker C: He's nominated for a Grammy for it.
[01:34:12] Speaker B: But the fact. Fact is, I thought.
[01:34:15] Speaker A: Go ahead.
[01:34:15] Speaker B: I thought that it was going to be him doing what he does best.
I don't know.
[01:34:21] Speaker D: You mean when you saw an album and you just. And then you.
[01:34:24] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know if Andre 3000 is best at the electric flute, right? Like, I don't know if that's what he's like. I. I don't know.
[01:34:32] Speaker D: You heard his reasoning, though, right?
[01:34:34] Speaker C: I mean, because he said he's too old already.
[01:34:36] Speaker B: He said.
[01:34:37] Speaker D: He said, what am I talking about now? But that's my point. I'm older now.
Andre, he was like, am I talking about going to go get colonoscopies and things like that?
[01:34:45] Speaker A: Hold on. Before we put a pin in the Kendrick thing, though, I think that it's also necessary to remark that you can see the peace on Kendrick. You can see the transformation based off. If you. Now that you go back and listen to lyrics, the way I'm telling y'all, listen to it, you're gonna see the peace in him. You're gonna see the transformation. But at the end of the day, guess who he still is? At the end of the day, if need be, the motherfucking devil. And I will come eat your shit. N Don't play with me I want. I ain't no devil, I ain't no killer but don't push me, right?
And so, yes, I think he reincarnated Tupac in the delivery, but I don't think this got shit to do with Tupac. It's just.
[01:35:22] Speaker D: It had nothing to do with Tupac. It was just.
[01:35:23] Speaker B: No.
[01:35:24] Speaker D: Remember I said he does, like, the double entendre thing. That beat was the message was one thing, but he presented it as reincarnated Tupac.
[01:35:33] Speaker A: I know, and that's what's so crazy, because there's so many layers to the things that are going on. And it can exist in that world and still make sense. It can exist in the reincarnation incarnate of Tupac world and make sense.
[01:35:44] Speaker D: But this is why I listen to people all the time tell me that.
[01:35:47] Speaker B: That.
[01:35:47] Speaker D: Oh, Kendrick, he. Because I know you're not getting this out of it. You're not getting this out of it.
[01:35:52] Speaker B: Scientists and engineers is what it was.
[01:35:53] Speaker A: What's that?
[01:35:54] Speaker C: That's the we Kill him.
[01:35:56] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the song Scientists and Engineers.
[01:35:58] Speaker A: I haven't heard that song, bro.
[01:35:59] Speaker B: So what album is that on?
[01:36:02] Speaker C: It's on Killer Mike.
[01:36:06] Speaker A: I got caught in the first couple on that. I haven't even listed that whole album, bro. Cuz the first three are so. Three or four are so good, right?
[01:36:12] Speaker B: And then so, you know, he got the, you know, ALB of the year and everybody was like, you know, Killer Mike, right?
[01:36:17] Speaker A: Remember that was how my saying that. Y'all got to watch it. The one about his mom. Like the video where he's recording the studio. It made me cry like it was dope.
[01:36:22] Speaker C: You know what? Another three stack verse that go hard is on the Kanye Donda Deluxe.
[01:36:27] Speaker A: They didn't put it out. Only they put it out. Did they put it out?
When he talked about 16 is crazy.
[01:36:35] Speaker C: 16, yeah. Yeah.
[01:36:36] Speaker A: So imagine. Imagine if the future for us and we finally getting back to the summer real shit. And the future of us is Kendrick and Andre album not together, but just.
That's what we have to look forward to. Because in a way, he was also dissing N. That ain't saying nothing.
[01:36:51] Speaker C: Awakening.
[01:36:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, he was.
[01:36:52] Speaker A: You know, he was dissing N. That ain't saying nothing. I. Hey, man, look, you got me, bro. You finally did. You finally took that munchkin shit off there. And now I'm gonna go back and deal with the munchkin and.
[01:37:02] Speaker B: And I know that I. I said I wasn't gonna. But whenever you get a chance to it.
[01:37:05] Speaker A: Mm.
[01:37:08] Speaker B: Cube dropped the fucking classic, too.
[01:37:10] Speaker A: I heard one of Cube songs, and I like it, but.
[01:37:12] Speaker B: But it's not. It's not just one. So again, so I'm dropping.
[01:37:14] Speaker D: Where do we get to then?
[01:37:16] Speaker A: Are we not them or not them or something? That's the one I heard.
[01:37:18] Speaker D: Well, not like them.
[01:37:19] Speaker B: Yeah, not like them is great. Like, so. But.
[01:37:21] Speaker D: But I think we don't like track eight or something.
[01:37:24] Speaker B: And they're eight for eight.
[01:37:25] Speaker D: And I'm eight for eight right now.
[01:37:26] Speaker B: Eight for eight at like, I feel hitters.
[01:37:28] Speaker A: I feel you, dog. No, we're not on that right now.
[01:37:30] Speaker B: No, no, no. Listen, though. Listen, though. And it's old school, though, right? Yeah, it's old school because is 20.
[01:37:35] Speaker A: 20 records.
[01:37:36] Speaker D: It's 20 songs on 19 to be exact. But yes.
[01:37:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:37:39] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:37:39] Speaker B: And so he. He's got him, you know, hit. So I'm driving and I'm listening.
[01:37:44] Speaker D: I don't think they're interludes either.
[01:37:45] Speaker B: No. And I'm like, what is this? What is. Like, when is this album gonna end. Like, there's another Cube song. Like, and it just keeps going, and he just keeps going, and it just keeps going. And then there are hitters after hitters. And I was like. Like, in one of them, he's like, listen, I was K Dot before K Dot. Let's be clear.
[01:37:59] Speaker D: I was Kendrick before Kendrick.
[01:38:01] Speaker B: No, he was. Because he. No, he. He had. He had.
That he was speaking to.
[01:38:08] Speaker A: Yeah, but he also wrote the too, though.
[01:38:10] Speaker B: No, but that's what. But he said, though. He said the isms. Like, if you listen to the isms, this is going to keep you out of prison. Like, if you hear what I'm saying. I, like, I told him, like, the. Are you burning like that made me wear a condom? Like, you know, why you here? Like, you know, I mean, like, why.
[01:38:25] Speaker A: Is my dink thing burning like this?
[01:38:26] Speaker B: Yeah, like that. I strapped up because I'm listening to this nigga talk about this motherfucker at the clinic. Like, nah, man, I'm here for a physical. Nah. You know what I mean?
[01:38:36] Speaker D: We don't give no physicals here.
[01:38:37] Speaker B: We don't get no physicals here.
[01:38:39] Speaker A: I never. But I thought he was always a little bit corny. A little bit.
[01:38:43] Speaker B: Nah. So if you start off with America's Most Wanted, right? Like, America's Most Wanted was like, as soon as he split off, and it was like Cube only it was like, like, yo, this on some extra. Whether it's, you know, the.
The. The. The. The. The fairy tale one or the.
[01:39:03] Speaker D: Was it the stoplight come on.
[01:39:06] Speaker A: I'm looking at my. So I can see who can see me, right? South Central putting Ice Cube to the test in the ss.
[01:39:15] Speaker B: But that's what he's saying. Like, this is like. But I. Like, he said it. I'm not. I was. I'm not a. I wasn't in the gangs and all of that, right? Like, I. You know, but that doesn't mean that I couldn't hit you with some from where I was from. Yeah. That would get you to understand that this life ain't necessarily the right life.
[01:39:36] Speaker D: Right?
[01:39:36] Speaker B: Or whatever, right? It like the one we were just listening to called Facts, is with JD from the lynch mob. And he's talking. Talking about he just did 20 years and, you know, some was going on, and he's like, listen, bro, I'm trying to keep you out. Like, I didn't want you to have to do this, but this is how this goes down sometimes in the hood. Start to fight and then start to shooting, and it's Just different that happens. And I'm just trying to put up on game. And if you listen, you'll understand that this is some. I feel it, but. And it's 20 songs, bro, of just heat. I feel it like 5,000, 150.
[01:40:14] Speaker D: I like Q, but definitely better than his last two, for sure.
[01:40:17] Speaker A: But Kendrick, I think, no offense, Cuban is released, but Kendrick is connected to that spirit right now. Yeah, he wasn't before. I'm sorry. I know y'all say he already was, but not like he was now. Because this is a. This. This called.
[01:40:30] Speaker D: It's called out, I think, like I told you what you saw my nest on, he was talking about in that unreleased album. That's when he didn't release for Tip of Butterfly.
[01:40:40] Speaker A: And it's not necessarily the good spirit or the bad spirit. It's the spirit.
[01:40:43] Speaker B: Right.
[01:40:43] Speaker A: Because it's all one.
[01:40:44] Speaker B: Well, I think, again, that's why he put lrae out there, you know, I mean, it's not that he hasn't been to say, like, listen, I. This didn't change his life. And he went Christian and, you know, I mean, but that's not my lane. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to do it this way. But I still kind of feel what he's doing. Right? Like, you know, I mean, but, you know, T Bone, these niggas that. That try to go, you know, this route out, there's only so much exposure that you're going to get. Just like Common, just like Tali, Pauli, these niggas that are great lyricists and they have some shit to say. Their reach only goes so far.
[01:41:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:41:20] Speaker B: And that's. Again, this is why I'm saying Andre.
[01:41:22] Speaker A: 3000, like, we're past that.
[01:41:23] Speaker B: No, no, fuck you. Because I'm talking about Pac. This is why, I think and this is why.
[01:41:29] Speaker A: No, stop.
[01:41:30] Speaker B: No.
[01:41:30] Speaker A: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[01:41:31] Speaker B: No, stop.
[01:41:31] Speaker D: Let me.
[01:41:32] Speaker B: Let me say what I'm gonna say. Can I say what I'm gonna say?
[01:41:33] Speaker A: Yes, please.
[01:41:34] Speaker B: Because this is. This is the genius of Pac for me. Because Pac wasn't the gangster that he portrayed throughout the later albums that he blew up and Everybody Rise down with and all of that. He was the. In the dashiki trying to get to understand different, but he understood that. That reach.
[01:41:53] Speaker A: You don't want to hear that.
[01:41:54] Speaker B: That reach is limited. But let me go ahead and flip it, right? But I'm still going to give these jewels in this. In this way, but it's going to be different. But I'm going to Give it to you in a. In a manner that you can digest. Because if I try to just give it to you like Common gives it to you, or these other niggas give it to you, these conscious rappers give it to you, you're not going to hear me. But when I talk about this thug life tatted on my chest, when I talk about this thug shit, now I can. You can hear me. And now I can still have your ear and drop this other shit into you.
[01:42:25] Speaker A: It's from the same spirit.
[01:42:27] Speaker C: But Kendrick is the spirit.
[01:42:28] Speaker B: But you don't stop if you don't stop for fridge. Reggie, you just said the same thing. He said if you don't do that.
[01:42:35] Speaker A: I didn't say that. I didn't say that. He said that. I said it's from the same spirit.
[01:42:39] Speaker B: No, but you already said he was the spirit just a minute ago.
[01:42:41] Speaker A: But here's the thing. The reason why Tupac didn't reach the level that you're talking about is because Tupac can't rap, bro. Sorry. It's time to say it right now, because it's important right now. I'm not saying Tupac can't rap, period. I'm saying compared to what Kendrick was able to put with him and Gloria put together on this project, Tupac has never touched this.
[01:43:02] Speaker D: None of the songs, I have to agree with you.
[01:43:04] Speaker A: None of them. The reason why Tupac will never get the reach that Kendrick does because he doesn't have the. He doesn't have the physical talent that Kendrick had. Yes, he touches souls.
[01:43:12] Speaker B: Me and my.
[01:43:13] Speaker A: There was nothing.
[01:43:14] Speaker D: I can't agree with the reach because Tupac definitely had reach. But no, no, no, no.
[01:43:17] Speaker A: Not reach of people.
[01:43:18] Speaker D: Definitely not reach of people.
[01:43:19] Speaker A: Not reach of people. Reach to God. He doesn't have that same.
[01:43:23] Speaker B: Only God can judge me, nigga. Like, he's so good. Pac was the first. Let's be clear.
[01:43:27] Speaker A: Just because he said it doesn't mean he said it.
[01:43:29] Speaker D: Well.
[01:43:29] Speaker A: No, no, you gotta say it. Well.
[01:43:31] Speaker B: No, you were so before Pac, he said.
[01:43:34] Speaker D: Well, Kendra said it better before Pac started.
[01:43:37] Speaker B: That wasn't even talking about God, man.
[01:43:40] Speaker A: Shut up.
[01:43:40] Speaker B: No nothing. What gangster rap was talking about.
[01:43:43] Speaker A: Act like Tupac is the only that ever said a righteous thing on a mic. My. Stop it.
[01:43:47] Speaker B: Not. No, no. Gangster. Not gangster is stupid.
[01:43:51] Speaker A: That's where pop up the gangster was the wrong lane.
[01:43:54] Speaker B: But again, why didn't.
[01:43:55] Speaker A: Why didn't Kendrick have to go to gangster route?
[01:43:57] Speaker D: Hendrick didn't. With Sugar, he didn't.
[01:43:59] Speaker A: Kendrick didn't have to ever Go to gangster. He may be adjacent, but he's never had to be it. He's never had to be.
[01:44:07] Speaker B: No, I'm not talking about that. But so again, for, you know, only God can judge me, right? Like, that was the first time I. Like I said, so I was maybe 17, 18 years old that I heard a. That is talking about street shit, mentioning God. I knew that were in the street, that never went to church, never talked about no religion. They didn't even mention God, like, because of the shit that they were doing then with the shit they were doing. And God was like oil and water. That shit did not mix. And it did not ever come. It never came together.
[01:44:40] Speaker A: Fair point.
[01:44:41] Speaker B: But Pac was the motherfucking nigga that brought.
[01:44:44] Speaker A: Fair point.
[01:44:44] Speaker B: That shit too light to say. Okay. I'm talking about God as well as this thug ass shit too.
[01:44:51] Speaker C: Are you saying that, quote, Tupac said like, yo, I may not be the one to inspire, but somebody be the.
[01:44:57] Speaker A: One that inspires, the one that changed nothing.
[01:45:00] Speaker C: What he's saying is, and that's fine.
[01:45:02] Speaker A: Drake is that nigga, but that's fine. I just want you to know that his reach isn't very far. You think it is because in your subset of who likes Pac or whatever, he's the nigga. But I'm saying in a global sense, Pac is not the nigga. But Kendrick seems like he can be for not the globe, but for black people, right? So, like, where Pac was. Where Pac was for the thug and.
[01:45:22] Speaker B: For the hood, you just.
[01:45:23] Speaker A: Kendrick is like, for black people.
[01:45:24] Speaker B: You just.
[01:45:25] Speaker A: I'm the Tupac for black people.
[01:45:26] Speaker B: You just, you just, you just made me think of. Yeah, I. Something I didn't mention before is that he makes me this album.
[01:45:36] Speaker C: Who's he?
[01:45:37] Speaker B: Kendrick.
[01:45:37] Speaker C: Okay.
[01:45:38] Speaker B: Kendrick's. This album makes me empathetic. And for like, people say the coon train, I'd be like, fuck these niggas about this. This nigga makes me not want to leave anybody behind, right? This, this nigga, this nigga makes me want to be like, okay, yes. No, it makes me feel the last one. It makes me feel this way. Like, I'm like, listen, okay. I know I talk about.
[01:45:59] Speaker A: Tupac has never made you feel like that. No, you don't have that reach, Right?
[01:46:02] Speaker B: I'll be ready to shoot.
[01:46:03] Speaker A: Exactly.
[01:46:03] Speaker B: Right.
[01:46:04] Speaker A: But like, I'm not saying it's bad, right?
[01:46:05] Speaker D: Well, I mean, Tupac never did anything like I either.
[01:46:09] Speaker B: Right? So this is. So when I was listening to this, it's like, listen, no man left behind. This makes Me empathetic for the. That don't get it. Instead of being like them, it's like, no, let me help you figure some out. Like, let me help you talking about.
[01:46:24] Speaker A: Don't let no white dude talk about black women.
[01:46:26] Speaker C: Andrew Schultz.
[01:46:26] Speaker A: He's talking about Kamala.
[01:46:28] Speaker C: Andrew Schultz.
[01:46:29] Speaker A: Who is he talking about? Talking.
[01:46:30] Speaker C: Andrew Schultz was making fun of, like, just black women jokes. Like, black women got attitude by the comedian.
[01:46:35] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I gotta. I gotta hear what that is. But that's what I'm saying. My. Like, yeah, that's law. I think. I think you've seen what I'm saying. Like, Pac, I. You know, I said, pac is an influence. He's an impactful character. He wasn't the greatest rapper. I've held on to that.
[01:46:47] Speaker B: Right?
[01:46:48] Speaker A: But now we got a who's all that and is also the greatest rapper or could be the greatest rapper, but also is opening the scope of. It's not just for thug and rebels. This is for the people. That's not rebels too. This is people. That's just chilling. Listen to these love songs with me and Sza. It's for y'all, too.
[01:47:02] Speaker B: But I remember telling my daughter that. I was like, you know, because we were talking about this album, I was like. And I didn't. I didn't mention it, but I was like, he makes me, like I said, empathetic, sympathetic for the niggas that are. Are lost. Right? The ones of us for all black people. So, like that. Like, listen, I. I know that. I'm like, you know, the house is burning. We can't save everybody. And he makes me want to try to save everybody.
[01:47:26] Speaker C: It's funny you mentioned that, because to me, what. After I heard that album, I kind of share a similar sentiment, but the way I felt, the way I took it is like, I have to do the inner work to even save anybody else or help anyone else for it to happen happen. I have to do inner work.
[01:47:42] Speaker A: That's what he's saying. Yeah. Even me. Even me.
[01:47:44] Speaker C: You know, hermetic principle, when they say you. The. The everything is mental. It's like, oh, I have to go back to that. Everything is mental. And. And that's what I got from that album was like, oh, I gotta do more work inside. Like, I gotta work on me, right? Even more. Because that's the only way the aura is gonna be able to even convince the next person I'm trying to save.
[01:48:04] Speaker A: He gotta embody it, right?
[01:48:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:48:05] Speaker C: Yeah. I have to literally, really beat that. So that's what I That's what I really got from that album.
[01:48:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:48:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:48:12] Speaker A: I've been waiting the podcast, man, Like I said, I listen to it like, what, four or five times now? I listen.
[01:48:19] Speaker C: I was cleaning the ground since it dropped.
[01:48:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:48:22] Speaker C: I haven't listened to new.
[01:48:23] Speaker A: I haven't listened to the other music. I don't think there's any. Well, I did listen to that Cube song, and I may have listened to a Dochi song just because it was when I got Macari popped up first shuffle. But things I've chosen. Every time I've chosen listening to record, it was that album. So I don't know about that. 8 out of 10 I'm giving. I might give it the full 10, bro. I think that it's. It's a work, and it's way deeper than we thought. It's probably deeper than I think. It's probably still another layer that I have.
[01:48:48] Speaker D: That's why I said 9, 5, because I already knew. I ain't. I ain't peel back.
[01:48:52] Speaker A: My challenge to y'all, listeners included, my challenge is for you to go to Reincarnated Listen. To start. Don't even listen to the first two verses. Those are important. But I think the major focus of what I'm trying to show you. Listen to the third verse of Reincarnated, and then go back and start from the very top and put the lyrics up on it so you can see it the way I did it on. I don't know if you have Apple tv, but on Apple tv, if you open up the music app, you can play the album, and then the lyrics will be big on the screen. I liked that because it gave me the ability to see some things that I hadn't seen the first time. But anyway, we went way longer than we were supposed to. That's like two hours, y'all.
[01:49:27] Speaker C: So Kendrick will do that.
[01:49:28] Speaker A: Anything else you want to throw on this episode before we move it?
[01:49:31] Speaker B: Nah, man, I'm. I'm gonna make. I'm gonna probably listen to it on the way home again.
[01:49:34] Speaker A: Of course. How could you not?
[01:49:35] Speaker B: Yeah, but no, I'm. See, listen, I know I keep talking about this. N. No Cubes. This, like, especially. So the Ego song, right?
[01:49:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:49:46] Speaker B: And then he's got the remake with Killer Mike and Buster Rhymes. Egomaniacs.
[01:49:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm gonna try it.
[01:49:52] Speaker D: I like that they just changed the name for that. I'mma try it for the remix.
[01:49:56] Speaker B: And. And. And it's you. So I think that there's going to be parts that resonate to you, right? Like, where he's talking about, listen, y'all got to stop being pussies. And sometimes y'all got to be dicks.
[01:50:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:50:07] Speaker B: And just get hard. Like, let's just be clear. Like, I believe that's track three.
[01:50:17] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:50:18] Speaker A: I like the energy.
[01:50:19] Speaker B: So. Yeah, I swear you're gonna feel the energy. Because he's like, listen, I'm not. Motherfuckers get mad at me for being, you know, not feminine. Like, not like. And I'm not. I'm just. That's just the way I'm not. I'm just. It's just not. You're not going to get that from me. That's just not who I am. Like, he's called sensitivity. And he's just like, listen, nigga, you guys got to stop being so emotional. Like, it's so sensitive about shit. Like, you know what I mean? And it's not. Y'all ain't supposed to. We ain't supposed to be. As a man, ain't supposed to be acting this way.
[01:50:47] Speaker A: Right?
[01:50:48] Speaker B: So you might want to fuck with that. You might. I think you might feel it.
[01:50:51] Speaker A: We'll see.
[01:50:52] Speaker B: But anyways, it.
[01:50:52] Speaker A: It'll be a second before I get to. I'm going be.
[01:50:54] Speaker B: Yeah, no, no, I understand.
[01:50:55] Speaker D: It's going to be that one. Just so you so sensitive.
[01:50:57] Speaker A: Okay, Sensitive. So, listeners, we appreciate you guys tuning in once again. Make sure you go out, hit us on all our socials if you have any opinions about this. If you think this is a whack album. You know, I. I won't be mad if you tell me. I'm not so lost in it that I won't listen to what you're saying and. And reconsider if I feel like it. You know, a valid point, but as of right now, I think that the room shares my sentiment on this album. I don't think any of us disagree on this, which is a first in a long time, I think.
[01:51:21] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:51:22] Speaker A: Might be a first in a long time.
[01:51:22] Speaker B: Well, it's a first because it's Kendrick, and you about to say it's a.
[01:51:25] Speaker D: First because you on board, right?
[01:51:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, you're the. You're the last adopter. You know? I mean, like, so, yeah, it's definitely a first.
[01:51:32] Speaker A: I'm late anyway. But keep supporting us, keep interacting with us, and we'll keep bringing the nonsense because we realize that sometimes people just need to laugh. Till next time.
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